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Slick · 12-14-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

does anybody believe that this idiot has an attorney?

I'm taking bets that he doesn't.

Sorry Serge, I didn't realize it was you. I do have respect for you and your time being in this biz. I just don't understand how someone of your history would be commenting like you do.

dig420 · 12-14-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

and how come that become your problem all of a sudden? Let THEM worry 'bout it. BTW, if Pleasurepays blows you, will you post your impressions on GFY? I bet $1000 that you will chicken out!

First off, I'd let him blow me. I just don't care, I'm a freak.

Second, let me explain my worries here: Bad enough having to worry about law enforcement in this business. Now let's hypothesize that I had some domains registered at DN, some teen domains. Mike is a rabid conservative, he doesn't like me, and he's definitely immature and vindictive enough to make it personal. In this situation, not only do I have to worry about the cops, my hosting provider and my attorneys, I have to worry about my registrar, operated by someone whose judgement I have NO confidence in, putting me in the worst legal situation imaginable.

Mike finds out you don't like Bush? Let's freeze your domains and turn you over to the FBI. Mike decides he wants to add your domain to parked.com? If there's a chick with braces on there he can just take it from you. The point is there is now another person claiming authority over my company, my domains and my livelihood. If he demands documents you can't produce, he just takes what's yours.

I'm not saying he WOULD do that, I'm saying he COULD do that, and that's enough for me to want to block him or any other registrar from even having that capability. All these people sitting here posting and rambling on about this or that and how much they hate teen content are two things first and foremost:

1. Hypocrites. They're lying trying to get someone's approval by trumpeting how morally righteous they are from every rooftop, even though they're pornographers. Everyone likes teen girls except fags. I hate hypocrites worse than just about anything on this earth, goddam family values evil bastards.

2. Stupid. They don't understand what a serious thing prosecution and jail time is and they don't have the wisdom to understand that this could happen to them just as easy.

Now it's possible I'm basing my opinions on a wrong assumption, and it's possible that slick actually has REAL child porn on his server, he's been trading it, DN is acting according to instructions from law enforcement. If so, my apologies but all I can go on is what I know NOW. In the absence of this situation, DN is getting involved in areas it has no business getting involved in and shooting themselves in the foot besides, because the next a phishing or CP investigation occurs due to a domain they're the registrar for, they are now legally liable and open to prosecution or civil suit.

xclusive · 12-14-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Dude, fuck you. I've been in this fucking business for a lot longer than you and I probably make more than you could ever imagine making doing this. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah you tell that noob Serge where his place is lol

will76 · 12-14-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Slick, a little advice... I would take a moment to make sure your PC at home is VERY clean, okay? Nothing to get alarmed about, but if this got reported to the authorities, you might get a nice knock knock one of these days... so make sure that your cache is clean, know what I mean?

LOL seriously if I was him I would have already tossed it into the lake.

Even though I don't have anything on my PC, shit you never know they might find a cp spam email you got back in 98 that you thought you deleted.... i wouldn't even take the chance.

NoComments · 12-14-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Dude, fuck you. I've been in this fucking business for a lot longer than you and I probably make more than you could ever imagine making doing this. Shut the fuck up.

ouch! That really hurts!

How much you wanna bet that you'll be wishing you weren't stupid and followed your own advice and kept your mouth shut?

I am a spectator, this is GFY peep room,
you are getting fucked and I enjoy the show, and it ain't even cost me 25 cents.

I truly enjoy your misery, stupid people should not be in business, it's against the laws of nature.

Jace · 12-14-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Dude, fuck you. I've been in this fucking business for a lot longer than you and I probably make more than you could ever imagine making doing this. Shut the fuck up.

ok, me and serge don't get along whatsoever, but even I have to laugh at this one

Webby · 12-14-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

My attorney just called that number and it was a general number, they said that they wouldn't put him through. Any other ways to get ahold of people in charge ?

Ok.. Also just phoned that number Slick and got a similar response.

When asked who the senior legal person was? No clue.

When asked how does one contact anyone in their "legal department"? By email to [email protected]

When asked what the fax or phone number of their "legal department" or any other responsible party or company officer? They don't accept phone calls.

Slick - Not sure what your lawyer thinks of this, but it's worth recording for future reference since this "domain registration agent" is a joke. Until they do provide *actual* paperwork of this complaint - there is no reason to think it's even valid or worth responding to.

PS This enquiry was done in a polite manner and not done to arouse suspicion or "anti".

CDSmith · 12-14-2006, 02:22 PM

Remember guys, that is all sponsor-owned content, much of it if not all of it from sponsors that many of you also promote. Slick is just an affiliate using that content in good faith like any other affiliate, and the 2257 statements from ALL of those sponsors I've looked at all say that their content is legal and their models of legal age at the time of production.

If you want to call someone's ethics into question you best include the sponsors themselves in this little tirade, Slick seems to be taking quite a fall all by himself here.

And I've known Slick for 8 years now, and have always known him to be a very personable, honest, helpful and professional guy. I don't see him as the type to set out to "pander to pedos" as some would insinuate. I'm sure while he's waiting for word from his lawyer he will work hard to clean up any questionable stuff off his sites so when they do go live again he'll be good to go.

Lesson learned, dog and pony show over.

Pleasurepays · 12-14-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Now it's possible I'm basing my opinions on a wrong assumption, and it's possible that slick actually has REAL child porn on his server, he's been trading it, DN is acting according to instructions from law enforcement. If so, my apologies but all I can go on is what I know NOW. In the absence of this situation, DN is getting involved in areas it has no business getting involved in and shooting themselves in the foot besides, because the next a phishing or CP investigation occurs due to a domain they're the registrar for, they are now legally liable and open to prosecution or civil suit.

you are so bizarre that you don't realize that everyone has this same exact concern. your concern is premature because the full facts arent known yet. no one cares about morality. i dont care about morality. no one is lecturing about morality. people are talking about the law and public perceptions. as you often do, you vent and rant and rave and in the process of doing so, you force yourself into all sorts of rediculous arguments and comments that have nothing to do with anything.

on a serious note... are you circumsized?

Slick · 12-14-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

SERIOUSLY... just a question here. How in the hell do you know with 100% certainty all of the girls are over 18 since you do NOT HAVE the age docs in your hands. YOU are taking those companies' word for it that you got the images from. How many companies you deal with?

Ok, so you're saying that companies like Alex & Jason, Fuck You Cash (run by Biggy from Mellissa Midwest), and Braincash aren't legit ????

LadyMischief · 12-14-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

My bank asked me for a picture ID when I wrote a check for cash yesterday. The stores ask for one when I use my credit card or write a check. They aren't representatives of the DOJ either

DN is loaded with lawyers. I can't imagine they turned Slick off without a reason, but if they did, he has EVERY right to sue them. He already has an attorney. I suspect, like when he first approached this situation by making a post here instead of contacting DirectNic or his attorney, that he again posted here before knowing the story of what's going on.

But AGAIN, for those of you who feel someone's "seeding" me, lol, if DN screwed up, they deserve to be sued.

Sorry, but what most people don't realize is that those companies/places/organizations don't always HAVE the legal right to ask for your id. And depending on the country, they DEFINITELY don't. I'm a Canadian. If for example, Directnic asked me to produce those documents, and I did so, I would then be facing 10 or more years in jail for violating privacy laws. It doesn't have to even be the entire piece of ID, just distributing it at all could land me in jail for a hell of a long time. Rock and a hard place? Ya, slightly.

Don't forget, the US has inter-state privacy laws as well... Without a lawyer's opinion, who are you to say that it's not violating any privacy laws asking for those documentations without the proper legal authority to do so? I know you guys are all friends of Mike AI, but really, do the research and think about it logically here. This case is best fought by lawyers.

NoComments · 12-14-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Sorry Serge, I didn't realize it was you. I do have respect for you and your time being in this biz. I just don't understand how someone of your history would be commenting like you do.

In all my history, and I never changed a single letter, I was always saying the same thing:
1) pay your taxes
2) stay away from gambling and CP in any shape or form
3) keep IMPORTANT matters private, and off the boards, unless martyrdom is your life calling.
(Steve Cohen taught me that lesson, and I am a good student)

Slick,
your apology accepted and I will no longer be in your hairs.

I'm sure that you wished the rest of your problems go away as easy I go away.

Slick · 12-14-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Remember guys, that is all sponsor-owned content, much of it if not all of it from sponsors that many of you also promote. Slick is just an affiliate using that content in good faith like any other affiliate, and the 2257 statements from ALL of those sponsors I've looked at all say that their content is legal and their models of legal age at the time of production.

If you want to call someone's ethics into question you best include the sponsors themselves in this little tirade, Slick seems to be taking quite a fall all by himself here.

And I've known Slick for 8 years now, and have always known him to be a very personable, honest, helpful and professional guy. I don't see him as the type to set out to "pander to pedos" as some would insinuate. I'm sure while he's waiting for word from his lawyer he will work hard to clean up any questionable stuff off his sites so when they do go live again he'll be good to go.

Lesson learned, dog and pony show over.

Thanks man, I appreciate the support

karlm · 12-14-2006, 02:29 PM

Take em to the cleaners

nastynun · 12-14-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

The content IS legal. I guess that nobody ever commented on the content before, so I never thought anything about it. This is the first time it was ever pointed out to me, so I guess that now that I know what others think, perhaps I can change the way the sites operate.

Did you get all the docs to prove they where 18 or over at date of production? If not how do you know?

Also what about all these people saying you are linked to known CP sites? Being to busy is not good enough as to your excuses when it comes to who you link to and trade traffic with.

How could you have not thought about all this? Did you not look at some of those photos and think "gee she looks like she is 12 years old I should not put that up on my site with out the proper docs in hand" ? Don't you check your link trades? I mean you said those sites are your bread and butter. I would think you be checking on things of that nature on a daily bases.

Did you not think that ANYONE could have turned you into the FEDS. How do you know DirectNic has not already done so? Or some surfer that ran across your site and was not for sure if it was legal? Did you not think that some day someone might want to see the docs for a site like yours? Hell for any adult site for that matter.

IF you had a lawyer I can't see a lawyer in their right mind thinking its ok for you to post about all this on GFY. Wonder if the FEDS read this board?

sarettah · 12-14-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Dude, fuck you. I've been in this fucking business for a lot longer than you and I probably make more than you could ever imagine making doing this. Shut the fuck up.

roflmfao.

NoComments · 12-14-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you are so bizarre that you don't realize that everyone has this same exact concern. your concern is premature because the full facts arent known yet. no one cares about morality. i dont care about morality. no one is lecturing about morality. people are talking about the law and public perceptions. as you often do, you vent and rant and rave and in the process of doing so, you force yourself into all sorts of rediculous arguments and comments that have nothing to do with anything.

on a serious note... are you circumsized?

hhahahahahahahahahahaha,
we both laughing on the floor, the last line was just brilliant!

NoComments · 12-14-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nastynun

IF you had a lawyer I can't see a lawyer in their right mind thinking its ok for you to post about all this on GFY. Wonder if the FEDS read this board?

Don't worry, they do.

dig420 · 12-14-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you are so bizarre that you don't realize that everyone has this same exact concern. your concern is premature because the full facts arent known yet. no one cares about morality. i dont care about morality. no one is lecturing about morality. people are talking about the law and public perceptions. as you often do, you vent and rant and rave and in the process of doing so, you force yourself into all sorts of rediculous arguments and comments that have nothing to do with anything.

on a serious note... are you circumsized?

yes, and hung thick and low.

You don't care about morality, but you're in every thread where the subject is brought up defending 'family values' republicans. You're in every thread about teen content talking about how VILE it is to want to look at a girl in pigtails. You're a hypocrite. You can try to reinvent yourself as cute and clever asking to blow me and whatnot, but it isn't working bro.

You fucking people and your 'holier than thou' shit -- you need to find a job driving trucks or something, pornography is NOT for you.

Slick · 12-14-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

In all my history, and I never changed a single letter, I was always saying the same thing:
1) pay your taxes
2) stay away from gambling and CP in any shape or form
3) keep IMPORTANT matters private, and off the boards, unless martyrdom is your life calling.
(Steve Cohen taught me that lesson, and I am a good student)

Slick,
your apology accepted and I will no longer be in your hairs.

I'm sure that you wished the rest of your problems go away as easy I go away.

Thanks for accepting my apology, I appreciate it.

Those are some good rules to follow. Perhaps I should've followed rule 3 and kept this away from the board, but at first it kinda caught me off guard and I didn't know what to think, especially since I didn't realize it was from DirectNic, so I figured if someone would know anything about the company, someone here would, then it kinda boomed from there. I guess I now know that lesson

J3sus · 12-14-2006, 02:33 PM

It's really suck :/

Webby · 12-14-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Sorry, but what most people don't realize is that those companies/places/organizations don't always HAVE the legal right to ask for your id. And depending on the country, they DEFINITELY don't.

I get that crap fairly regularly on an individual basis - always from the US. Their request is always refused and they are told it is not their business. Sometimes it can be asking for corporate stuff and it's the same reply - it's illegal to pass out data relating to corps.

So, they have a choice - shut up and deal or not - they always deal.

nastynun · 12-14-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you want to call someone's ethics into question you best include the sponsors themselves in this little tirade, Slick seems to be taking quite a fall all by himself here.

You got a point are any of those sponsors providing proper docs for their affiliates? No..

Good faith is not good enough in this business.

Pleasurepays · 12-14-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

If for example, Directnic asked me to produce those documents, and I did so, I would then be facing 10 or more years in jail for violating privacy laws. .

you just made the point that i keep making again and again that no one has corrected. YOU violate the law for providing it. THEY dont violate the law for asking it.

Shakula · 12-14-2006, 02:38 PM

innocent until proven otherwise...

sarettah · 12-14-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

that's enough for me to want to block him or any other registrar from even having that capability.

Digg, I don't know if you saw my post yesteday, but bulkregister (where you have darkcavern reged at) has very similar terms and conditions in their TOS.

They can pull a domain for "serious allegations of illegal content" (not proof, just allegations) and not let you transfer them away.

.

RawAlex · 12-14-2006, 02:40 PM

Slick, if your lawyer was, umm, working hard, he would just find a process server or other to go by the Directnic offices and drop something on them. But I wouldn't have to explain this to a lawyer.

will76 · 12-14-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Ok, so you're saying that companies like Alex & Jason, Fuck You Cash (run by Biggy from Mellissa Midwest), and Braincash aren't legit ????

DID I SAY THAT? I said how do you a mistake was not made intentional or unintentional? And those are just 3. Can you list all of them you used? How many companies?

ALL it takes it 1 picture to be CP. That's it.

Any my question was, not if *I* think those companies are legit or not, but are *YOU* willing to put your life in their hands.

dig420 · 12-14-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Digg, I don't know if you saw my post yesteday, but bulkregister (where you have darkcavern reged at) has very similar terms and conditions in their TOS.

They can pull a domain for "serious allegations of illegal content" (not proof, just allegations) and not let you transfer them away.

The TOS issue has been answered ad nauseum. I don't think we need to go over it for the 468th time.

Pleasurepays · 12-14-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

yes, and hung thick and low.

You don't care about morality, but you're in every thread where the subject is brought up defending 'family values' republicans. You're in every thread about teen content talking about how VILE it is to want to look at a girl in pigtails. You're a hypocrite. You can try to reinvent yourself as cute and clever asking to blow me and whatnot, but it isn't working bro.

You fucking people and your 'holier than thou' shit -- you need to find a job driving trucks or something, pornography is NOT for you.

i think you are confused and you simply see what you want to see. i dont have any clue what you are talking about. i talk about the law, facts and reality... not why my opinion should be everyone else's opinion as you do. i can talk about how it is without saying "thats how i want things to be in the process" - you can't. i can talk about my ideas and opinions and be honest with myself in that they are just the ideas, opinions and viewpoints of one individual... and there are 300,000,000 other perspectives that are equally valid.. you can't.

you evade real conversation and debate with attempts at redirecting everything and turning it into a political/religious discussion. ... that just proves how over the edge you are... i dont believe in god and i have never voted.

Lord Aga · 12-14-2006, 02:46 PM

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...8&sa=N&ndsp=18

You think google has the 2257 info for all those thumbs?

NoComments · 12-14-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

his attorney apparently really sucks.

he has one, I glad nobody took me on the bet.

I gotta visit "Mayflower" more often

jact · 12-14-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Aga

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...8&sa=N&ndsp=18

You think google has the 2257 info for all those thumbs?

Maybe google.com should be shut down!!!

sarettah · 12-14-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Remember guys, that is all sponsor-owned content, much of it if not all of it from sponsors that many of you also promote. Slick is just an affiliate using that content in good faith like any other affiliate, and the 2257 statements from ALL of those sponsors I've looked at all say that their content is legal and their models of legal age at the time of production.

Not quite.

There was one thumb that linked to a site that the Danish authorities shut down. Slick said that was a trade, so it was not linking to his sponsor content (FHGs). However, hs 2257 statement claims that the thumbs come from the galleries he is linking to.

So, say you were a fed and just clicking around, you see the statement, you click the thmb, the Danish message saying they took down the gallery for cp comes up and voila, 1+1 makes 3, the thumb must be cp because it ame from a gallery that another legal authority has already labeled as cp.

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dig420 · 12-14-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i think you are confused and you simply see what you want to see. i dont have any clue what you are talking about. i talk about the law, facts and reality... not why my opinion should be everyone else's opinion as you do. i can talk about how it is without saying "thats how i want things to be in the process" - you can't. i can talk about my ideas and opinions and be honest with myself in that they are just the ideas, opinions and viewpoints of one individual... and there are 300,000,000 other perspectives that are equally valid.. you can't.

you evade real conversation and debate with attempts at redirecting everything and turning it into a political/religious discussion. ... that just proves how over the edge you are... i dont believe in god and i have never voted.

man whatever, you're so fucking wishy washy I'm tired of dealing with it, you're just some dude hiding behind an anon nick anyways.

You're a 'type', whether you like it or not, one of those guys who gets in every political thread on the conservative side and then is shocked, SHOCKED, when someone calls you a republican. You're not original, and frankly you're not interesting either. I've already given you too many keystrokes.

will76 · 12-14-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nastynun

You got a point are any of those sponsors providing proper docs for their affiliates? No..

Good faith is not good enough in this business.

I would give someone good faith on a traffic trade or some shit like that. I wouldn't take 14 year old looking content from someone and put it on my site under the persumption that the content (100% of it is) is legal. I wouldn't take ANYONE's word for it. I wouldn't touch the shit without having my own docs in hand.

It amazes me how many people put their lives on the line trusting companies they don't know. I don't give a shit how many parties through or how long they been around. I wouldn't trust my life to no one muchless some affiliate company.

Lord Aga · 12-14-2006, 02:47 PM

http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...ex&btnG=Search

Wonder how google got the 2257 info for the horses! lolol

NoComments · 12-14-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Aga

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...8&sa=N&ndsp=18

You think google has the 2257 info for all those thumbs?

fucking shit...we now have to meet on GFY...what the heck happened to our good 'ole personal moments????

How the heck are you, Rich!?

dig420 · 12-14-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

he has one, I glad nobody took me on the bet.

I gotta visit "Mayflower" more often

I think I'm banned from there now, dunno if it was done a while ago or just since this debacle began.

LadyMischief · 12-14-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you just made the point that i keep making again and again that no one has corrected. YOU violate the law for providing it. THEY dont violate the law for asking it.

Where in the law does it require registrars to do anything other than REPORT? I don't think report and INVESTIGATE are the same thing, are they?

Slick · 12-14-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Slick, if your lawyer was, umm, working hard, he would just find a process server or other to go by the Directnic offices and drop something on them. But I wouldn't have to explain this to a lawyer.

The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

Carrie · 12-14-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

his attorney apparently really sucks.

ALL IMAGES ARE TAKEN/PRODUCED FROM THE SPONSORS' CONTENT THAT ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE 18 U.S.C § 2257 LAW. ALL IMAGES ARE TAKEN FROM THE GALLERIES/SITES THEY LINK TO. IF ANYONE QUESTIONS THE LEGALITY OF THE IMAGES DISPLAYED, THEY CAN FIND ALL RECORDS AT THE FOLLOWING LIST OF 18 U.S.C § 2257 STATEMENTS. THIS LIST IS NOT COMPLETE YET, BUT WILL BE UPDATED SHORTLY.

http://majorpervert.com/2257.html

That page was last updated on May 4th, 2006.
Which begs the question, how short is "shortly"?

jact · 12-14-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

Slick, drop me an email to [email protected].

Pleasurepays · 12-14-2006, 02:50 PM

and lets set the record straigh Dig420........

I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS SITES CONTENT. I agree in principle that legal content is legal content. End of story. But unfortuneately, like most things in life, its not always that cut and dry. Many find it offensive and objectionable.. and you know what? I can understand that too. I think the final word should be the law and legal age of consent. I don't try to tell others what to think or feel or what to masturbate to.

However, the fact of the matter is that he intentionally pushed right up to the line and in some ways beyond the line as defined by law... and he bears some responsibility and fault for that. Additionally, the full facts are not known... yet you babble on and on and on as if they are. Hating authority because of your shitty, abusive childhood doesn't mean you have an automatic case everytime someone exercises authority.

Further, you made up your mind about "right and wrong" from reading the thread title of the first thread on the issue and see it as one more chance to make it a political platform and to bash Mike because of his political views and to take one more shot as you guys do and have been doing for the better part of 10 years. You can't have any discussion without talking about religion and politics. You can't have any discussion without eventually trying to make it about religion and politics. From my perspective this discussion is simply about the law and rights and obligations of both parties... not surprisingly, the most rational and logical and intelligent conversation on an issue is usually the last to be had here.

Shakula · 12-14-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk

fucking shit...we now have to meet on GFY...what the heck happened to our good 'ole personal moments????

How the heck are you, Rich!?

I must ask you. Ive read some posts about you here on GFY.
You did well during the goldage for porn. But winetalk.com,
2000-20006 and you have about 1000 posts?
Most likely are they yours....

Seems that it was easy back in the day with porn!

dig420 · 12-14-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Aga

http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...ex&btnG=Search

Wonder how google got the 2257 info for the horses! lolol

I guess google best be expecting a letter from their registrar pretty soon lol

Pleasurepays · 12-14-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Where in the law does it require registrars to do anything other than REPORT? I don't think report and INVESTIGATE are the same thing, are they?

that has nothing to do with privacy laws. thanks for playing tho

Lord Aga · 12-14-2006, 02:52 PM

Hey Serge!!

Im Keeping busy! I thought you were abroad again on your travels!

Dirty F · 12-14-2006, 02:52 PM

300 pedos

dig420 · 12-14-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

and lets set the record straigh Dig420........

I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS SITES CONTENT. I agree in principle that legal content is legal content. End of story. But unfortuneately, like most things in life, its not always that cut and dry. Many find it offensive and objectionable.. and you know what? I can understand that too. I think the final word should be the law and legal age of consent. I don't try to tell others what to think or feel or what to masturbate to.

However, the fact of the matter is that he intentionally pushed right up to the line and in some ways beyond the line as defined by law... and he bears some responsibility and fault for that. Additionally, the full facts are not known... yet you babble on and on and on as if they are. Hating authority because of your shitty, abusive childhood doesn't mean you have an automatic case everytime someone exercises authority.

Further, you made up your mind about "right and wrong" from reading the thread title of the first thread on the issue and see it as one more chance to make it a political platform and to bash Mike because of his political views and to take one more shot as you guys do and have been doing for the better part of 10 years. You can't have any discussion without talking about religion and politics. You can't have any discussion without eventually trying to make it about religion and politics. From my perspective this discussion is simply about the law and rights and obligations of both parties... not surprisingly, the most rational and logical and intelligent conversation on an issue is usually the last to be had here.

ok obviously you are the paragon, the very epitome, of logic, rationalism and intelligence.

Now will you shut the fuck up?

12-14-2006, 02:22 PM	#258
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Remember guys, that is all sponsor-owned content, much of it if not all of it from sponsors that many of you also promote. Slick is just an affiliate using that content in good faith like any other affiliate, and the 2257 statements from ALL of those sponsors I've looked at all say that their content is legal and their models of legal age at the time of production. If you want to call someone's ethics into question you best include the sponsors themselves in this little tirade, Slick seems to be taking quite a fall all by himself here. And I've known Slick for 8 years now, and have always known him to be a very personable, honest, helpful and professional guy. I don't see him as the type to set out to "pander to pedos" as some would insinuate. I'm sure while he's waiting for word from his lawyer he will work hard to clean up any questionable stuff off his sites so when they do go live again he'll be good to go. Lesson learned, dog and pony show over. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

12-14-2006, 02:29 PM	#264
karlm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4,194	Take em to the cleaners __________________ ICQ 584665926

12-14-2006, 02:33 PM	#271
J3sus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 92	It's really suck :/ __________________ ICQ: 145-368-787 love is life. and if you miss love, you miss life..

12-14-2006, 02:38 PM	#275
Shakula So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 948	innocent until proven otherwise...

12-14-2006, 02:40 PM	#277
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Slick, if your lawyer was, umm, working hard, he would just find a process server or other to go by the Directnic offices and drop something on them. But I wouldn't have to explain this to a lawyer.

12-14-2006, 02:46 PM	#281
Lord Aga Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 479	http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...8&sa=N&ndsp=18 You think google has the 2257 info for all those thumbs?

12-14-2006, 02:47 PM	#287
Lord Aga Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 479	http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...ex&btnG=Search Wonder how google got the 2257 info for the horses! lolol

12-14-2006, 02:50 PM	#294
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	and lets set the record straigh Dig420........ I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS SITES CONTENT. I agree in principle that legal content is legal content. End of story. But unfortuneately, like most things in life, its not always that cut and dry. Many find it offensive and objectionable.. and you know what? I can understand that too. I think the final word should be the law and legal age of consent. I don't try to tell others what to think or feel or what to masturbate to. However, the fact of the matter is that he intentionally pushed right up to the line and in some ways beyond the line as defined by law... and he bears some responsibility and fault for that. Additionally, the full facts are not known... yet you babble on and on and on as if they are. Hating authority because of your shitty, abusive childhood doesn't mean you have an automatic case everytime someone exercises authority. Further, you made up your mind about "right and wrong" from reading the thread title of the first thread on the issue and see it as one more chance to make it a political platform and to bash Mike because of his political views and to take one more shot as you guys do and have been doing for the better part of 10 years. You can't have any discussion without talking about religion and politics. You can't have any discussion without eventually trying to make it about religion and politics. From my perspective this discussion is simply about the law and rights and obligations of both parties... not surprisingly, the most rational and logical and intelligent conversation on an issue is usually the last to be had here.

12-14-2006, 02:52 PM	#298
Lord Aga Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 479	Hey Serge!! Im Keeping busy! I thought you were abroad again on your travels!

12-14-2006, 02:52 PM	#299
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	300 pedos