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  • McSpike
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 1042

    #1

    W8 tax forms and sponsors

    Why do only a few sponsors (Bumble Cash, Blazing Bucks...) require one to sign a W8 tax form for non-US webmasters while the majority do not?

    What's the catch? Is everyone else operating from outside the US?
  • u-Bob
    there's no $$$ in porn
    • Jul 2005
    • 33063

    #2
    FACT: US sponsors are NOT required by law to get signed w8 forms from non-US webmasters.

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    • polish_aristocrat
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2002
      • 40377

      #3
      drop the sponsor asap ;)
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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      • amateurcanada
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2001
        • 3766

        #4
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        • McSpike
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 1042

          #5
          Originally posted by u-Bob
          FACT: US sponsors are NOT required by law to get signed w8 forms from non-US webmasters.
          What's the catch of W8 forms then at all?

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          • u-Bob
            there's no $$$ in porn
            • Jul 2005
            • 33063

            #6
            Originally posted by McSpike
            What's the catch of W8 forms then at all?
            Sponsors that require signed w8 forms from non-US webmasters are either clueless or looking for a reason to hold on to your money for a bit longer. either way: drop them.

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            • Hotrocket
              Confirmed User
              • May 2004
              • 1327

              #7
              I believe you are confusing the W-9 form and the W-8 form

              W-9 form is for US residents

              W-8 form is for non US residents

              read about who is required to use the W-8 form here

              http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=2

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              • McSpike
                Confirmed User
                • May 2001
                • 1042

                #8
                Originally posted by Hotrocket
                I believe you are confusing the W-9 form and the W-8 form

                W-9 form is for US residents

                W-8 form is for non US residents

                read about who is required to use the W-8 form here

                http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=2

                No, I am talking about W-8 allright. I am a non-US webmaster. Now, reading that pdf instructions I don't get it why we don't have to file W-8 forms, W-8BEN in particular. None of you who say we don't have to file them explained why don't we have to do it as non-US webmasters.

                The instructions say:
                Purpose of form. Foreign persons are subject to U.S.
                tax at a 30% rate on income they receive from U.S.
                sources that consists of:
                ? Interest (including certain original issue discount
                (OID));
                ? Dividends;
                ? Rents;
                ? Royalties;
                ? Premiums;
                ? Annuities;
                ? Compensation for, or in expectation of, services
                performed;
                ? Substitute payments in a securities lending transaction;
                or
                ? Other fixed or determinable annual or periodical gains,
                profits, or income.


                Who must file. You must give Form W-8BEN to the
                withholding agent or payer if you are a foreign person
                and you are the beneficial owner of an amount subject to
                withholding. Submit Form W-8BEN when requested by
                the withholding agent or payer whether or not you are
                claiming a reduced rate of, or exemption from,
                withholding.


                So, what's the catch here? Is it because we are receiving a "Other fixed or determinable annual or periodical gains, profits, or income." but we are not a subject to withodling, because we were not living in the US at the time of making the income? Is that so, or is there some other catch why we don't have to file it?

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                • okdesign
                  ICQ 278367136
                  • May 2002
                  • 24773

                  #9
                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                  FACT: US sponsors are NOT required by law to get signed w8 forms from non-US webmasters.
                  Right!

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                  • McSpike
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2001
                    • 1042

                    #10
                    Ok. Can someone explain why is that so?

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                    • polish_aristocrat
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 40377

                      #11
                      well but why do you care?

                      it's a standard among affiliate programs, that foreign webmasters don' have to be bothered with any kind of US tax forms.... so if you're foreign, then just be happy about it :D
                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                      • Zester
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5344

                        #12
                        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                        well but why do you care?

                        it's a standard among affiliate programs, that foreign webmasters don' have to be bothered with any kind of US tax forms.... so if you're foreign, then just be happy about it :D
                        tax managment is a very important thing.
                        the webmaster of this site: http://www.money4u.net/ was sued in my country and forced to pay his taxes plus a 550,000 NIS fine (about $135,000) and spend 10 months in jail.
                        * Mainstream ? $65 per sale
                        * new male contraception

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