lets see how you feel when mgp's take over tgp's.... you are a smart guy, but sometimes your posts amaze me with stupidity....

Being that your a member...

HAVE YOU CONTACTED THE FSC YET???

Nope, not yet. Would they help fight for me in this case ?

Thanks for the attorney links people, I appreciate them :)

Can someone could contact the owner of directnic and tell him about that post. Cuz I think that he will lose a lot of customers in the next days and a lot of money.

You don't need one as you did nothing wrong. If the FBI should show up some day and wants to inspect documents (unlikely) you just have to make sure that you have them / can immediately can download them as I don't think you can tell them that they should go to the producers as you're a secondary one according to the new 2257 laws.

slick can you ICQ me please

I dont know if they can or how they would help.. but it seems that this company is now assuming the role of the government.

I would at least seek advice from them, especially if your domains are locked/blocked or anything else done with them

Never had a problem with GoDaddy.com

Have talked with them on the phone on many many occasions getting bulk renews, etc... they read thru all my domains on the phone, and have never had any issue with them.

We use DirectNic too and I would defintely like to know exactly what is going on.

Mark

there's no way this is covered by their TOS, is it?.

'we reserve the right to audit the identification of any nude model you display in your site...'

directnic are the scum of the earth.

They have not done this to me but they like to play god and do so on a regular basis, there is absolutely no *less* friendly registar for your domains.

A few years ago they shut down 10 of my friend's domains because they had "received complaints about popups", they had absolutely no idea what the domains were, that they were *EXIT POPUPS*, but that didn't stop them from freezing the domains and ALSO CHANGING THE DNS so that they effectively shut his business down for days.

Thankfully they have a reasonably smart guy there named Sigmund Solaris who usually with a phone call can take care of things (he owns it along with Mike AI and a few other former porn guys).

My advice to you is to call them and politely inform them that this is a terrible mistake and then get your domains away from them as fast as you possibly can.

If they don't let you transfer your domains report them to icann, if they don't unlock your domains then report them to icann and sue them. Playing internet police is beyond the rights afforded to domain name registrars.

OMGGGGGGG :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Current ID? HAHA, are they suggesting content producers as well as secondary producers not only keep all ID's but track down models every few years to get a new copy of their current ID?

You can switch to an adult attorney latter, get any lawyer you can right now that is capable of filing an injunction and or restraining order against them (whichever is needed, can not recall which would be called for).

Is that a joke?
Actually go ahead and then PLEASE post back your results if and when you ever get through.

http://www.directnic.com/ ?2006 Intercosmos Media Group. All rights reserved.

thats pure insanity. im sure in some way directnic is breaking laws by requestiing this information. its not their role to play 2257 FBI officers.

WOW that is fucked up, Slick I know your sites and have never seen anything illegal or near illegal on them

Well, I tried transferring one of my domains over to NameCheap an hour ago, but never got any emails in from DirectNic about finishing it up, so I guess this is real and they do have locks on me.

I guess that I'll just have to contact them and see what they reply. I just don't know what the hell I should put in there.

Can someone forward this thread to Mike AI??

I also am a direct NIC customer.. Ive always liked Direct NIC, one of the best in the biz ive always thought..

Before we start bashing em, lets get one of them in here to discuss whats happening..


Ill be honest, IM pretty concerned here myself... This would be a horrible position to be in..

I know slick.. I feel for him here...

More so, I dont want to be next..

We need some light shed on this issue.

ASAP....

Do I need to have my finger on the transfer button??

Jesus.. Whats going on?

Thanks man :thumbsup

And thanks to the rest of you for the support, I greatly appreciate it :)

Surely this is some kind of mistake.

If not, what a nightmare.

Mine's already sitting on the button..

Keep this shit near the top.. bumpppp

Sorry to say that but to be honest it is your own fault that you're in this situation now! There are quite a lot of questionable thumbs on many of your tgps and if you crop 19 year old models in a way that they look like underage 14 year old girlies you cannot seriously wonder why DirectNic got complaints and reacts.
Furthermore at least one of your trades (teensss.com) has thumbnails of underage girls on it. To be exact, it is from a company named Holy Nature and I know for a fact that those russian girls were not of legal age when those photos got shot.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for you and I hope you get this solved asap because as we all know the content listed on your tgps is from famous sponsors and legal. This situation sucks for you and many of us could be in the same situation sooner or later but I hope some people will take this as a warning and change the way they crop their thumbs and find other ways to increase productivity and not just by making the girls appear to be as young as possible.

DirtyProfits... you're suggesting that because he LINKS to somebody that has questionable content that it's ok for his REGISTRAR to suspend his domains?


The bottom line here is that they are absolutely not the Internet police, nobody gave them that right, they don't own the domain, HE does, they are just the lucky 1 in a million registrar he chose to pay his fee to in order to register the domain through verisign.

I don't care if he's promoting rape and incest or anti-quickbuck propaganda... the registrar is not the place that the responsibility falls for policing.

If the registrar was *really* concerned they should just turn the site over to the asacp or the fbi.

I sure hope they never dislike any of YOUR content... or you might be next!

A little update for ya. A good friend of mine referred me to an attorney friend out in L.A. We talked on the phone for a bit and we're now compossing an email reply to send back to them. I'll keep you posted as to what happens.

DirtyProfits, my thumb script automatically crops EVERY single image on every one of my sites. I drop in the urls, it'll whip up a thumb for each image, then rotate them up one at a time to find the best thumb, then it deletes the rest and keeps the best thumb, so it's the surfers that determine what stays on the page.

As far as what my trades have on their pages, Quick Buck is right, they're responsible for what's on their pages. I do look over the sites when they sign up and click on a few of their links to see where they're gonna send my traffic before activating them. I do check over my active trades from time to time to make sure things are legit, but I have hundreds of active trades which are hard to police.

Slick, I am with Johndoebob on this one. It would appear to me that Directnic got a complaint, and they are acting on it. Read your domain registry agreements carefully, they are not obliged to continue to offer sites that contain illegal material.

You most seriously need a lawyer, because I know that Intercosmos is at least partially run by laywers. So you need to take prompt action to avoid issues.

done....

done....... email sent

Can we get a response from Directnic. This is just plain wrong.

Good luck with it Slick. If you decide to get a new registrar I recommend http://www.moniker.com.

Thanks Nation-X, I'll keep that in mind :)

Sorry to hear this happening to you Slick, you've always been one of the good guys in my book. I hope it all works out for the best for you man.

Interested to hear MikeAI's take on this. I too have a few domains with directnic and have thus far been quite happy with their service.

I will be speaking to the person responsible about locking this domain tommorow. Until I know the facts I cannot comment on the specific issues, but I would tend to beleive there was something that caught our attention, and our threshold is very high.


There is no registrar out there who understands the issues that legit adult webmasters face better than directNIC.com.

If there is anything to directnic being directly involved in demanding answer to challenges regarding 2257, my crystal ball suggests a mass exodus from directnic is in their immediate future.

This doesn't make any sense. Their only remedy *Should* have been to turn a guy over to the relevent authorites for investigation, complaints or no complaints. I don't see anything in the statutes that would give a registar the authority to mount an investigation of that nature.

It's one thing to say they want no adult, it's quite another to attempt psuedo enforcement of a criminal code. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I am curious, was this an email, US Mail, or registered mail?

I see you still got amateurcurves.com.... that's the domain name I thought up for you years ago, remember? :D


With all that traffic you should just buy directnic and then fire everyone responsible for messing with your bidness.



Okay back to being serious --- looks like MIke is going to look into it. Time to wait on his findings.

Mike, thanks for getting to this post. Hopefully we can get this cleared up. My attorney sent over an email to Juli on my behalf, so you can contact him if needed.

I do understand your concern for underage content, but I think that you're people are going about it all wrong.

It was just a standard email. I do agree with you, it doesn't make any sense.

Hmm 4 posts.

Funny. If adult webmasters are slinging CP or anything that panders on the line of CP and we get a complaint ( in most cases we are contacted by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children or the FBI) the domain is going to be locked until the issue is resolved.

If you feel a mass exodus is warranted, then by all means transfer your domains ASAP I am sure godaddy or moniker would love your business.

Ha ha ha, yeah, that's right :) That was like 7 years ago, boy time sure flies by.

That's a good idea about buying directnic, ha ha ha.

One thing that kinda does get me though is that I've been a DirectNic customer for 7 years now, you'd think they'd at least take that into consideration before threatening to shut me down. It's a damn good thing I wasn't on a long vacation without my laptop, I would've came back Monday to dead sites, OUCH.

Ok.. Great to see MikeAI is here!!

Wheeew.. The fact that he didnt point at me and say "YOU'RE NEXT" makes me feel better.. LOL....

I hope this gets resolved..

Glad to see Mike AI here..

boneprone, your next.

Feel better?

:)

Alex

MikeAI is the absolute last person on the Internet I would want monitoring whether my "content" is ok or not. He has a history, I won't bring it up here out of respect for his wife, but it's not the kind of history that warrants playing "web cop".

Who the fuck appointed you or your company as the Internet Police?

If it's something illegal then turn it over to the proper authorities, they'll arrest him if it's illegal and you'll be he "good guy" in this situation, but this guy paid you to register his domain... not to register his domain AND play internet police.

You guys are walking a really slippery slope... and a poorly chosen one in my opinion.

Fuck me once, shame on you... Fuck me twice... Shame on me!

Three years ago, GoDaddy suspended WEGCash.com

At the time, all their webmasters' join4free links ran through that domain. It was a big headache for a while until they worked things out. So it's not just hearsay.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=182555

Domain Name: WEGCASH.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 03-oct-2003
Creation Date: 19-jul-2000
Expiration Date: 19-jul-2005

Well, whatever the outcome of this, someone needs to underline the fact that Slick is an affiliate only. The content in question isn't even his, it belongs to and was produced by his sponsors. If anyone has to be made to answer as to the legality of the content it should be the programs that own it, not some affiliate trying to run his TGPs and using said content in good faith.

I'm sure there are 100's of other webmasters using that same or similar promotional material as well, as I'm sure many of us are affiliates of the same programs Slick is. I can't see it being a fair idea to single out Slick as the culprit.

Any pics or vids in question will have to be identified as to which program they came from, and from there it should be a snap to have that program (or programs) provide 2257 information on it. Should be a simple process to solve the issue, and not something that requires ceizing and locking and shutting down of a guy's domains and business.

But I will say this... I think I would much rather answer to someone who is adult-friendly (like Mike AI) than to have him pass the complaint along to some convoluted beaurocratic branch of the government and have to then deal with THEM and their red tape, anal probes, etc.

Hoping for an update on this. There are three sides to every story, and I'll wait to make up my mind until I hear at least one more side.

Are you and your company for real???

Yes, if you are contacted by NCMEP or the FBI and someone is under investigation then lock the domain, but what the fuck gives you the right to ask to personally see evidence of age verification documents?

You and your company are not a legal investigative body, so stop trying to be one.:2 cents:

Directnic fucked up big time..

I'd be filing papers in court, then I'd be on the phone with the board of bar oversears to get juli criminally charged for false & deceptive representation. She is not an attorney & should not be acting in a legal capacity. Further, ALL legal communication MUST be served on PAPER, not fucking email..


Sue the fucking pants off these assholes.