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LA Mike 12-06-2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11473888)
I have dank coming over here in an hour..

He is the ultimate dumb fuck pervert..

He is the TEST MARKET of the avarage porn surfer..

Ill show him... 10 bucks says he whips out his credit card and attempts to jerk in my office.

LMAO.. that's classic

LA Mike 12-06-2006 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 11473916)
i hope you have a no console option for the tours...

Yes we do :)

AGP Albert 12-06-2006 03:20 PM

Hey Shemp....we do have console free options for all our sites. Payouts are adjusted from our regular console payouts though.

ttuurrbboo 12-06-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA Mike (Post 11473938)
Tuuuuuuuurbbbo... great points on those as well. Although on 9a I am a bit confused as to why yours opens full screen. On any computer I have tested it on I am seing a half screen with the downloading and size options.

9b... yes, we are working on some of the Nav of the sites. I thought the exact same thing when surfing it. Now it's just a matter of finding a good format that works

well, it does not open full screen at all. While the window is loading, the player is small, then it gets into the right format moving all controls and links to the bottom. But did you think of that, that when this whole window is opened, there can be people where the broswer loads in size which is smaller than needed? Its the IE memory which is very crazy. So the window opens in smaller size than you need to view it all but you miss the scrollbar. Either i would let the movie in the main window (do not open any other new windows at all) or set the new window to open in the certain size needed to show all info. I doubt its clearer now, is it? :)

gfx3 12-06-2006 03:24 PM

Ok here is my observation so far.

Gallery width is to wide, 15% of the surfers still use 800 x 600 screen resolution, any designer should have known this so that was his mistake to make.

About the thumb galleries. Templates look very nice, it wouldn't harm to edit your thumbs in photoshop to make them look even a bit more nicer in quality. Now you just did a resize on them, try to improve them by using some filters.

The surfer likes to see plain and simple rows of thumbs that tell a little story. By placing and spreading the thumbs all over the template you take the "easy navigation" away.
You could also place a bit more general text on your galleries, don't underestimate the effect of a good written text.
Template design is fine.

The video galleries:

Screen caps for the vids are low quality, terrible stuff. Surfers like nice big screen caps for the videos in an excellent quality. Many programs are making this mistake. Check out TCG and Sapphic erotica, they know how to do it right.

I think the biggest mistake with your galleries is the template size. The graphic designer did a good job but you need to tweak things.

Also by placing your picture thumbs the way you do you take the easy to follow story away, that might result in a loss of interest.

GFX3

gfx3 12-06-2006 03:29 PM

http://www.galleryhost.com/332156/1/...es_4699 5837/

This one is to pink, your eyes don't even look at the thumbs, it has written "paysite advertisement" all over it.

Just Rob 12-06-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11473666)
FYI.. If I win this silly $1,000.00, you can add it to the amount Ill owe you when you win the Fantasy Football...

If you dont win, Id like to donate 100.00 of it to buy your brother a book or two on how to play fantasy football.. I think I saw some at Borders.


Thanks for all the great feedback guys. :thumbsup

Boneprone, Kiss my ass!!! :321GFY Looks like your not getting my vote for the 1k prize so start getting mikes money ready!!! :1orglaugh

boneprone 12-06-2006 04:22 PM

I can sleep well at night knowing I didint bench Chad Johnson this season while he was hot!

LA Mike 12-06-2006 04:25 PM

LMAO.... my team is amazing. Just admit it. I score the least and give up the least. It's all about defence baby! haha

Just Rob 12-06-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11474462)
I can sleep well at night knowing I didint bench Chad Johnson this season while he was hot!

it was 1 game, and that was the game he decided to start playing... he's been in since.

p.s. Don't be mad that you didn't make the playoffs cuz you traded Larry Johnson before the season even started! :thumbsup

boneprone 12-06-2006 04:27 PM

The most thin bench all year.......

QB out........

How you won is beyond me....... Week after week.. Teams would fall to you!

boneprone 12-06-2006 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Rob (Post 11474503)
it was 1 game, and that was the game he decided to start playing... he's been in since.

p.s. Don't be mad that you didn't make the playoffs cuz you traded Larry Johnson before the season even started! :thumbsup



:disgust :disgust

Just Rob 12-06-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 11474513)
:disgust :disgust

oh so quiet now.... hahaha :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Bake 12-06-2006 04:44 PM

Your galleries are shit theres no real marketing no hook nothing that sells the site.
A very good gallery should have the surfer looking for his CC before he clicks the link.
How do I know this ?
Ive been submitting galleries everyday for the last 8 years the fact Im still here should say enough.

Toplessgoat 12-06-2006 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fervid.apps (Post 11473727)
Provide RSS feeds so affiliates can promote your galleries. <--- Winner!


Hi fervid, we do offer RSS feeds. Hit me up.

LA Mike 12-06-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 11474640)
Your galleries are shit theres no real marketing no hook nothing that sells the site.
A very good gallery should have the surfer looking for his CC before he clicks the link.
How do I know this ?
Ive been submitting galleries everyday for the last 8 years the fact Im still here should say enough.

Yes, I agree that we need more sales points on the galleries. I take blame for not paying more attention to what was being made in the rush of building all of these new sites and galleries.

I think I have picked up a lot of good tips from this thread and will make some changes.

For the existing galleries there isn't much I can do except add some things at the bottom of the page to entice the sufers to click out to the site. I will have some samples up tomorrow and see what you guys think.

Going forward we are going to make more varieties of galleries that have many more sales points and both graphical and non graphical versions of our galleries

Bake 12-06-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA Mike (Post 11474901)
Yes, I agree that we need more sales points on the galleries. I take blame for not paying more attention to what was being made in the rush of building all of these new sites and galleries.

I think I have picked up a lot of good tips from this thread and will make some changes.

For the existing galleries there isn't much I can do except add some things at the bottom of the page to entice the sufers to click out to the site. I will have some samples up tomorrow and see what you guys think.

Going forward we are going to make more varieties of galleries that have many more sales points and both graphical and non graphical versions of our galleries

I could show some simple points if you want
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AGP Albert 12-06-2006 05:57 PM

Hey Bake...I checked out your gallery maker for FTV...very nice work :)

the Shemp 12-06-2006 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvercash Albert (Post 11473982)
Hey Shemp....we do have console free options for all our sites. Payouts are adjusted from our regular console payouts though.

no problem with that, i'd much rather have a smaller payout than a console loop :)

Oracle Porn 12-06-2006 06:57 PM

4 Steps to improving Silver Cash free hosted picture & movie galleries.

Step 1: More text, less graphics - this is very important, text is what the surfers sees first when he loads the gallery page, so if your AD on the gallery is text, he will see the AD before the thumbs, which is a big PLUS! Put a lot of good selling text, not some bullshit non understandable text, text your surfer will precum on, so he can wipe out his CC and cum at your members area...

Step 2: Thumbs - on movie galleries if you have stills of the same gallery this is great, it means you can make thumbs from the stills and put it in movie galleries. In picture galleries you need to make sure your thumbs are big enough is this 140/170-180 is the minimum...and the thumbs need to be in good quality, no low quality cropped thumbs...this is not good...remember, CONTENT IS KING!

Step 3: For HD sites make layout to comply with 1024x768 resolution, with other sites I would prefer 800x600...galleries get shitload of traffic from shitload of people, you want every one of them to view your gallery correctly... with 800x600 everyone will see it just like you want to.

Step 4: If you give access to 100 different sites when the user signs up to 1 site, please list it on the gallery bottom, this will be a high selling point!

Hope it helped.

AGP Albert 12-06-2006 07:01 PM

Shemp....the payouts are not drastically reduced.
HD console - $50 PPS vs. HD Console Free - $45 PPS.
Reality and Niche Console - $40 PPS vs Reality Niche Console Free - $32 PPS.
Solo Console $32 PPS vs. Solo Console Free $27 PPS

Oracle Porn 12-06-2006 07:04 PM

oh p.s.
always keep in mind
SMART & SIMPLE IS THE BEST

Toplessgoat 12-06-2006 07:25 PM

Oracle those are all great points. It seems we've come full circle from a few years ago. Content is King Again.

Bake 12-06-2006 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toplessgoat (Post 11475854)
Oracle those are all great points. It seems we've come full circle from a few years ago. Content is King Again.

I never new it left ?

Good content can carry a gallery buy itself. The better the content the more simple the layout on the gallery needs to be.
Let them see it and showcase itself.
Content Scripts just cant do this so hosted galleries allways looks flat nothing beats hand croping and photoshop to bring out the best in galleries.

Spunky 12-06-2006 07:49 PM

Here's another contribution from me

Bake 12-06-2006 07:54 PM

With Galleries there is no one big easy way to improve sales.
What makes the difference between a gallery that can do 50 sales on the Hun and one that do 4 ?
Its many small details that add up and most dont understand this I havent seen many guys who have those skills It seems to take many years of learning.
You want the best gallery templates find an pro submitter thats been around 5 years or more and pay him well.
Allways ask anyone who is makeing your templates how many galleries they submit per day.
You maybe surprised by there answer.

webgurl 12-06-2006 08:07 PM

I haven't read all the replies but here is my feedback :

1) your thumbs on the movie gals are too small i know you
are trying to emphasis on the fact that its wide screen
HD but the problem is that alot of thumb mgp sites have big
thumbs now so i would do it min size . 320x240
example some big mgp sites with big thumbs :
http://jizzonline.com/
http://www.porngigant.com/
http://www.damnvids.com/
http://www.onlyjizz.com/
They can still be stretched even if you have smaller thumb size
but with that the quality begins to look grainy and pixelated .


2) Another thing about your thumbs on the movie gals are they
are really poor quality like fuzzy / grainy / bad lighting .
I would try to work on getting
large frame grabs 740x480 and shrinking them down and individually
as well with photoshop you can use the sharpening tool and
lighting contrast/brighten to make your thumbs look better .
(this is only if you don't have the matching photoset to replace them,
otherwise if you do of course use those) .
This will drastically give you alot more click ratios
on thumb sites cause the thumbs will become alot more appealing to
click on .

3) If you have "Bonus Sites" Offering your members All Access
Network . On the bottom of the gallery ,
Put screenshots of the paysite design or else the logo's
of all your sites that the membership will get
access to as well . This will triple your conversions :thumbsup

:winkwink: Cheers

VoteForPedro 12-06-2006 09:11 PM

I would say that the thumbs need to be of a higher quality. Also, I have to scroll, which is no good. The galleries are visually attractive but do little in the way of selling the site. Not enough text. I would also trim the amount of pics to 15 max. and the number of clips to 2 max. Leave the surfer wanting more. The "ENTER" graphics on some of the galleries might deter TGPS/MPGS/Link Lists that list FHGS from posting these galleries. Many have rules against an "Enter" link that leads to the sponsor site. Overall, nice galleries.

NemesiS876 12-06-2006 09:14 PM

No, you not gonna get answer of me

Toplessgoat 12-06-2006 09:48 PM

Thanks Bake, Webgurl( How are you cutie?? ), and Pedro. As for Nemesis, We no get Answer from you, You No get $1,000 from Mike. :).

AGP Albert 12-07-2006 12:15 AM

Hey Oracle....Thanks for the great ICQ conversation today! Get some sleep brother!

AGP Albert 12-07-2006 12:16 AM

OMG Webgurl! How are you? Thanks the great advice, I didn't even see your post. Although you are talented webmaster, it is great to see a female perspective amongst all the testosterone :)

Bake 12-07-2006 12:41 AM

I think its been well coverd that your thumbs need to be better.
I try and breakdown the points in a gallery and look for how Im doing the sell.
My fav sell is curosity make them curious and they click like lemmings.
The sell itself how can achive this ? What text do i need do I make it funny or try and turn the surfer on. Do I pitch it like the model talking to the surfer?
One thing that has to done is to gian there attenion The surfer is there to look at porn how do I get him to read my text.You cant sell him shit if he dosent read it.
You must offer him something he is looking for. How you word your text is an art to itself and something I cant explian here.
Last you must justify the sale to the surfer give him a reason why he is buying. This is where you can lose him he is thinking about and wondering if he should now you just have to push him across the line with a good reason to seal the deal.
You must think like a surfer, why am I buying this? and then tell him why.

webgurl 12-07-2006 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toplessgoat (Post 11476789)
Thanks Bake, Webgurl( How are you cutie?? )

Hello Toplessgoat I am good miss me much ? :winkwink:

Princess Ellisa 12-07-2006 01:02 AM

Already a ton of excellent points here. I am not sure if I can add to it but I would like to elaborate on the flashy, busy gallery vs. the cleaner, more simple gallery.

At a quick glance my initial response is wow! They have such a Hollywood movie quality to them they are sure to sell. Anyone seeing them would think they were really original compared to what most galleries look like.

That said they draw the eye almost more to the artwork then the content which is definitly not what you want your surfers looking at.

And once they are looking there, someone already pointed that the text is really doesn't carry any motivation to buy. In fact I am not even sure what is meant on the Anal Hell gallery at the bottom where it says "Another Perfect Ass gets reamed out. Only at Anal Hell."

There are 3 different fonts in that one sentence and the models hand splitting it up. At a first glance I actually clicked the word another thinking it would take me to another gallery or movie.

That said I really love the design for the tour and the theme but I think that for gallery traffic they will do better if they are either toned down, or the thumbs are made sharper so they stand out more than the design.

Wow that was long for an elaboration lol Great new stuff all around though!

webgurl 12-07-2006 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvercash Albert (Post 11477599)
OMG Webgurl! How are you? Thanks the great advice, I didn't even see your post. Although you are talented webmaster, it is great to see a female perspective amongst all the testosterone :)

Hi AL , I am well thanks :)
Yeah to this day I still do alot of the grunt work
and run my free sites , so i see what alot of gallery
submitters are doing .

oh another thing you guys should try is linking directly
to the join page by pass the tour sometimes gives
you better conversions as well

Peace Awwwwwwwwt :winkwink:

the Shemp 12-07-2006 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvercash Albert (Post 11475695)
Shemp....the payouts are not drastically reduced.
HD console - $50 PPS vs. HD Console Free - $45 PPS.
Reality and Niche Console - $40 PPS vs Reality Niche Console Free - $32 PPS.
Solo Console $32 PPS vs. Solo Console Free $27 PPS

Albert, i have an account at Silvercash, but i sure havent used it in a few years...i'll see if i can find my login details..:)

porn blogger 12-07-2006 02:38 AM

you guys can:

embed the movies or pictures into an HTML page and add a timed pop up to open the join page right after the movie is finished playing, or have it redirect after the movie finishes (or XX seconds after the image loads)

add "Email this gallery to a friend" - why hasn't anyone done this yet?

killer galleries though... really hope i win some Christmas $$$ good luck everyone!!!

Vendzilla 12-07-2006 07:52 AM

OK, quick look at the galleries and looking at what people are saying about the galleries. The quality of the galleries is pretty good, I've seen galleries that looked far worse convert great. I like the design of these galleries and they look to be easily thumbable for 2257 excempt

Some have said that the screen widths are too big? Whens the last time you looked at a new pc? Everyone has a 19" monitor, I have a 21.1" wide screen .These are the people that have money and are ready to spend it. With Broadband getting faster and faster, HD is going to become the common place, even walmart is selling HD TV's now, so you know more people are getting it~!

So lets look at what important!

Is the billing solution good?
Looks like they are using cascading billing, WTS, paycom and CCBill, plus they take checks.
Can I get these on my tgp/mgp without hassle?
Working on that for Comus users, they will have a solution in a day or two.
Can I fill my niches? yes

all this is mind, I think with just making it easier ti use, they have a good set up and I'm going to include their galleries in my network

Oracle Porn 12-07-2006 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 11476114)
I haven't read all the replies but here is my feedback :

1) your thumbs on the movie gals are too small i know you
are trying to emphasis on the fact that its wide screen
HD but the problem is that alot of thumb mgp sites have big
thumbs now so i would do it min size . 320x240
example some big mgp sites with big thumbs :
http://jizzonline.com/
http://www.porngigant.com/
http://www.damnvids.com/
http://www.onlyjizz.com/
They can still be stretched even if you have smaller thumb size
but with that the quality begins to look grainy and pixelated .


2) Another thing about your thumbs on the movie gals are they
are really poor quality like fuzzy / grainy / bad lighting .
I would try to work on getting
large frame grabs 740x480 and shrinking them down and individually
as well with photoshop you can use the sharpening tool and
lighting contrast/brighten to make your thumbs look better .
(this is only if you don't have the matching photoset to replace them,
otherwise if you do of course use those) .
This will drastically give you alot more click ratios
on thumb sites cause the thumbs will become alot more appealing to
click on .

3) If you have "Bonus Sites" Offering your members All Access
Network . On the bottom of the gallery ,
Put screenshots of the paysite design or else the logo's
of all your sites that the membership will get
access to as well . This will triple your conversions :thumbsup

:winkwink: Cheers

did you just rewrite what i post or am I hallucinating?


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