DialerCo is cheating me of $60,000 PLEASE READ - GoFuckYourself.com

trafficboy · 07-18-2002, 03:02 AM

DialerCo is refusing to pay me or my resellers for calls for the period of march to july for what they claim is a violation of their policies. During an unauthorized search of my server (via FTP, not via the web like all dialer users would access my site), they found old, unused remnants of design work that contained incest/rape stories in txt format. This old work was not available on my site through the members area, or via any means other than via ftp. A review of my server logs confirms that these files have NEVER been accessed via the web. Yet, the mere existence of these files is cited by DialerCo as a violation of their policies. Their response to my request to demonstrate how these files could ever have been accessed by a dialer user was the following: "It does not matter whether the content is accessible though a valid link or not.".

So, they feel that they are free to explore the entire contents of any server hosting your content and hold you liable for anything they find on this server, regardless of the fact that it was never available on the web! Here is their reasoning for this: "You offered DialerCo FTP access to your server, without any conditions, so we are/were completely within our power and rights to view ALL of your server content.". So regardless who owns the content, regardless of it's availability from the web, if it's on a server hosting your content, DialerCo will withhold payment to you and all your reseller/webmasters.

My resellers are run their own custom dialers, directing traffic to their own content. Other than the fact that they came to DialerCo through me, there is no connection to me or my content site, yet payment for the calls generated by these resellers promoting sites that are entirely different is being withheld as well.

Just when you think DialerCo could not sink any lower, now they are directly pursuing my resellers and webmasters trying to take them away from me. You see, this whole thing has nothing to do with some old .txt files sitting on my server, it is because I was making preparations to leave DialerCo and they are trying to punish me, by withholding over $60,000 and then stealing my resellers and webmasters.

Deal with DialerCo at your own risk. They will invent reasons to withhold payment from you and then move to steal your resellers and webmasters immediately after.

Very dirty, very low, very shameful. DialerCo, your reputation will catch up with you, you can't keep screwing Resellers and expect to get away with it forever.
Contact ICQ ******* to get the complete exchange of e-mails with Dialerco and proof of their fraudulant behaviour or send an e-mail to **************

We are ready to show any proof, including our member area.

Thanks

Ezdialeronline

Muff · 07-18-2002, 03:03 AM

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=35058

Hustlin Entertainment · 07-18-2002, 03:04 AM

Always watch for who's who in this business. especially dialers!

Hustlin Entertainment · 07-18-2002, 03:08 AM

watch out for telcoweb espcially or dialerco. not very reliable companies!

Muff · 07-18-2002, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
watch out for telcoweb espcially or dialerco. not very reliable companies!

Please do enlightin us on your reasoning?

Hustlin Entertainment · 07-18-2002, 03:18 AM

Amputate Your Head · 07-18-2002, 03:19 AM

is it their server or one you obtained outside of them?

Krome · 07-18-2002, 03:26 AM

He has been crying about this on every board going. He is called Nino or something like that. He wont reply..ask Shemp..I have had problems with servers but never the Child Porn/Rape pictures all of a sudden appearing on it syndrome.

I have checked the Unix/Linux and Windows manuals and they do not have a section in there with regard to "What to do if CP and Rape suddenly appear on your server" section...

I my opinion any daft oooo stupid enough to have rape and CP pictures deserves everything he gets....

[Labret] · 07-18-2002, 03:26 AM

How does it feel to take it in the ass like the surfers did?

AWW - Kevin · 07-18-2002, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muff

Please do enlightin us on your reasoning?

check his sign.

Amputate Your Head · 07-18-2002, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
I my opinion any daft oooo stupid enough to have rape and CP pictures deserves everything he gets....

hehehe... well, I was going there the long way, but you just cut to the chase there Krome... lol..... no need for me to drag it out now.

Gutterboy · 07-18-2002, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
How does it feel to take it in the ass like the surfers did?

ouch

quiet · 07-18-2002, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
I have had problems with servers but never the Child Porn/Rape pictures all of a sudden appearing on it syndrome.

there was pics too? smooth...

Krome · 07-18-2002, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

hehehe... well, I was going there the long way, but you just cut to the chase there Krome... lol..... no need for me to drag it out now.

He wont reply anyway....he is just cut 'n' paste spamming...

oi trafficboy let me rape your underage daughter, or son I am not picky, and put it on the net...

Amputate Your Head · 07-18-2002, 03:38 AM

oh yeah? Well then....

trafficboy, I hate to be the bringer of bad news on this stressful day for you, but..... the rumors are true..... I fucked your daddy in the mouth years ago. (more than once)

Muff · 07-18-2002, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AWW - Kevin

check his sign.

I saw

. But figured I would throw some kindling on the fire.

Hustlin Entertainment · 07-18-2002, 03:40 AM

stop children!

Amputate Your Head · 07-18-2002, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
stop children!

yes.... I agree! Stop them! They're too young to be looking at porn!

Krome · 07-18-2002, 03:41 AM

actually...and do not let traffic boy know this ...but I am going to bugger his mother tonight while she sleeps (I reckon she will soon wake up but the restraints will hold her in place) then put it on the web on the site www.trafficboyfamilyrape.com . I just hope my dialer company will pay me...

quiet · 07-18-2002, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
stop children!

from doing what?

Sex4it · 07-18-2002, 03:44 AM

Hustlin Entertainment · 07-18-2002, 03:46 AM

Be quiet!

Amputate Your Head · 07-18-2002, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
Be quiet!

he already is quiet....

Tipsy · 07-18-2002, 03:49 AM

Hmmm...seems it went beyond rape and incest into full blown CP stories made available to members. Looks like the guy fucked himself if the what they say is true and it seems they can prove it.

60k's a lot of money to screw yourself out of. Scary thing is how much that's cost the guys calling to see it if he made 60k? Still, if they were after CP shit I've no sympathy for him or the people with the big telephone bills.

421Fill · 07-18-2002, 03:50 AM

maybe you shouldn't have had anything illegal on your servers then?!

SR · 07-18-2002, 03:57 AM

Just don't do dialers.

The surfer gets screwed by the webmaster, the webmaster gets screwed by the program owner, the program owner gets screwed by the dialer company

Ted · 07-18-2002, 04:40 AM

I cant believe this thread has gone this far without mentioning Jesus Dialer.

Jesus Dialer is the only dialer I know that has never withheld payments.

Theo · 07-18-2002, 05:41 AM

if you had only rape and incest stories and keep denying to pay you, sue them. Rape and incest stories, although it's not in taste of the majority here, neither mine, they are not illegal. How often they send payments? Why they didnt cancel and inform you earlier? You are talking for the period march to july.

Theo · 07-18-2002, 05:43 AM

dialer AND dialer companies AND dialer resellers <> honest AND fair

funkmaster · 07-18-2002, 05:50 AM

" that contained incest/rape stories in txt format."

... well if you were infringing their t&t´s ... what´s your problem ?? they are doing the right thing !!

I got cheated over the same amount by australian cocksucker greg lasrado, so I kinda know how that feels ... but your story is a little differet ...

07-18-2002, 05:50 AM

Anyone still using spacedogdialer.com?

some_idiot · 07-18-2002, 05:56 AM

Can you say "unauthorized data access"?

If you can, call the authorities... Criminal charges
on top of a civil suit do wonders.

If such fantasy stories are legal in your area and there
was no pictures involved. The police should be out
to investigate within an hour.

Otherwise, cut the loses and stop fucking people
with dialers.

Theo · 07-18-2002, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
Anyone still using spacedogdialer.com?

of course,don't forget it was the backup dialer when jesus dialer was down due to Congo problems

Tipsy · 07-18-2002, 09:52 AM

Thing is though screen shots of the server folders were taken and posted elsewhere clearly showing a lot of CP erotica. I'm not sure if it's legal as it's not pics but it most certainly isn't just incest stuff and was apparently made available in the members area.

They guy fucked himself by pushing CP it looks like. The screen shots seem to prove it beyond doubt.

DarkJedi · 07-18-2002, 10:01 AM

guess fucking what ?

Text Stories about CP and shit ARE NOT legaly considered Child Porn. The only proof they have is screenshots of text filenames !
Get fucking real here people.

I'm not in any way in support of CP. It just looks like a company is trying to fuck a dude out of his money - they are just trying to find some reasons not to pay him.

Yeah i know many of you hate dialers, etc. But TGPs arent doing much good to porn either.

Tipsy · 07-18-2002, 10:23 AM

Depends entirely if their rules are clear on the child pornography issue or not. Legality does not mean it isn't breaking their TOS. If they are then he fucked himself. If they aren't then they're fucking him.

Either way it's still a valuable lesson for many people and has been said earlier in this thread. Companies with 3rd party billing and payouts will rarely if ever fuck you over. Comapnies who pay money from their own account........

ztik · 07-18-2002, 10:55 AM

hey, hustlin. i see you ganked my signup page again
ass

Fletch XXX · 07-18-2002, 11:03 AM

Rape stories and incest stories aren't illegal?

Sly_RJ · 07-18-2002, 11:23 AM

I haven't checked any other threads, just going off of what he says. But wouldn't it piss you guys if some other company started looking through your private files and information on your server? Then on top of that, decided to punish you and anyone that has had anything to do with you? I smell total bull shit.

In the past I've had my servers hacked a couple times and hacking software was installed. My server was temporarily shut down, but I sure as hell wasn't held responsible for the hack.

I'm pretty sure incest stories are not illegal, as I've seen them being sold at several content providers. Hell, I think I might even have some on my local box (yikes) that came in a story bundle (not incest) I bought once.

gaby · 07-18-2002, 11:27 AM

they're CP stories... DialerCo posted the screenshots in AWI.

the_certified_pedophile.txt
kiddy_porn.txt

TopTGP · 07-18-2002, 11:35 AM

Christ. Never trust a fucking dialer. And NEVER trust the assholes who are behind it

gaby · 07-18-2002, 11:35 AM

just to name two...

TopTGP · 07-18-2002, 11:35 AM

And just why the hell are those "stories" hidden in your site, anyway?

HQ · 07-18-2002, 11:40 AM

CP is sick. But what's the deal when it's only in text story format? Still sick to me. They claim it was accesible via the web via their dialer. If that IS the case, I believe they have the right to close him down.

How can they prove that months after the fact though?

HQ · 07-18-2002, 11:43 AM

DarkJedi is right. Screen shots of file names do not prove anything.

However... I would never put myself in the situation to be caught with such shit. You are only asking for problems and abuse if you promote CP in anyway way. It's just sick.

Wiredoctor · 07-18-2002, 11:44 AM

More Dialer assholes down the tube is a good thing

hahmike · 07-18-2002, 11:45 AM

interesting...

Quote:

Originally posted by gaby
they're CP stories... DialerCo posted the screenshots in AWI.

the_certified_pedophile.txt
kiddy_porn.txt

where did he post that screenshot of those filenames?

i can't see it.

Chris R · 07-18-2002, 11:47 AM

And they get away with not paying 60K dollars for "child porn".

All someone has to do is yell child orn and everyone is willing to roast them. This company will be making an extra 60K on "child porn".

If they REALLY think it is child porn and REALLY are against it so much - how about donating the 60K to missing and exploited children or some other charity.

gaby · 07-18-2002, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahmike
interesting...

where did he post that screenshot of those filenames?

i can't see it.

In AWI... Aaron Bray from DialerCO replied and included the following link:
http://www.dialerco.com/tavassi.doc

Wiredoctor · 07-18-2002, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R
And they get away with not paying 60K dollars for "child porn".

All someone has to do is yell child orn and everyone is willing to roast them. This company will be making an extra 60K on "child porn".

If they REALLY think it is child porn and REALLY are against it so much - how about donating the 60K to missing and exploited children or some other charity.

Very good point..... If they just keep the money then they are as guilty if not more!!

07-18-2002, 03:02 AM	#1
trafficboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: o Posts: 73	DialerCo is cheating me of $60,000 PLEASE READ DialerCo is refusing to pay me or my resellers for calls for the period of march to july for what they claim is a violation of their policies. During an unauthorized search of my server (via FTP, not via the web like all dialer users would access my site), they found old, unused remnants of design work that contained incest/rape stories in txt format. This old work was not available on my site through the members area, or via any means other than via ftp. A review of my server logs confirms that these files have NEVER been accessed via the web. Yet, the mere existence of these files is cited by DialerCo as a violation of their policies. Their response to my request to demonstrate how these files could ever have been accessed by a dialer user was the following: "It does not matter whether the content is accessible though a valid link or not.". So, they feel that they are free to explore the entire contents of any server hosting your content and hold you liable for anything they find on this server, regardless of the fact that it was never available on the web! Here is their reasoning for this: "You offered DialerCo FTP access to your server, without any conditions, so we are/were completely within our power and rights to view ALL of your server content.". So regardless who owns the content, regardless of it's availability from the web, if it's on a server hosting your content, DialerCo will withhold payment to you and all your reseller/webmasters. My resellers are run their own custom dialers, directing traffic to their own content. Other than the fact that they came to DialerCo through me, there is no connection to me or my content site, yet payment for the calls generated by these resellers promoting sites that are entirely different is being withheld as well. Just when you think DialerCo could not sink any lower, now they are directly pursuing my resellers and webmasters trying to take them away from me. You see, this whole thing has nothing to do with some old .txt files sitting on my server, it is because I was making preparations to leave DialerCo and they are trying to punish me, by withholding over $60,000 and then stealing my resellers and webmasters. Deal with DialerCo at your own risk. They will invent reasons to withhold payment from you and then move to steal your resellers and webmasters immediately after. Very dirty, very low, very shameful. DialerCo, your reputation will catch up with you, you can't keep screwing Resellers and expect to get away with it forever. Contact ICQ ***** to get the complete exchange of e-mails with Dialerco and proof of their fraudulant behaviour or send an e-mail to ************ We are ready to show any proof, including our member area. Thanks Ezdialeronline

07-18-2002, 03:18 AM	#6
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07-18-2002, 03:26 AM	#8
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	He has been crying about this on every board going. He is called Nino or something like that. He wont reply..ask Shemp..I have had problems with servers but never the Child Porn/Rape pictures all of a sudden appearing on it syndrome. I have checked the Unix/Linux and Windows manuals and they do not have a section in there with regard to "What to do if CP and Rape suddenly appear on your server" section... I my opinion any daft oooo stupid enough to have rape and CP pictures deserves everything he gets.... Last edited by Krome; 07-18-2002 at 03:27 AM..

07-18-2002, 03:44 AM	#21
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07-18-2002, 03:49 AM	#24
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Hmmm...seems it went beyond rape and incest into full blown CP stories made available to members. Looks like the guy fucked himself if the what they say is true and it seems they can prove it. 60k's a lot of money to screw yourself out of. Scary thing is how much that's cost the guys calling to see it if he made 60k? Still, if they were after CP shit I've no sympathy for him or the people with the big telephone bills. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-18-2002, 03:03 AM	#2
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07-18-2002, 03:04 AM	#3
Hustlin Entertainment So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nassau,Bahamas Posts: 2,326	Always watch for who's who in this business. especially dialers!

07-18-2002, 03:08 AM	#4
Hustlin Entertainment So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nassau,Bahamas Posts: 2,326	watch out for telcoweb espcially or dialerco. not very reliable companies!

07-18-2002, 03:19 AM	#7
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	is it their server or one you obtained outside of them?

07-18-2002, 03:26 AM	#9
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	How does it feel to take it in the ass like the surfers did?

07-18-2002, 03:38 AM	#15
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	oh yeah? Well then.... trafficboy, I hate to be the bringer of bad news on this stressful day for you, but..... the rumors are true..... I fucked your daddy in the mouth years ago. (more than once)

07-18-2002, 03:40 AM	#17
Hustlin Entertainment So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nassau,Bahamas Posts: 2,326	stop children!

07-18-2002, 03:41 AM	#19
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	actually...and do not let traffic boy know this ...but I am going to bugger his mother tonight while she sleeps (I reckon she will soon wake up but the restraints will hold her in place) then put it on the web on the site www.trafficboyfamilyrape.com . I just hope my dialer company will pay me...

07-18-2002, 03:46 AM	#22
Hustlin Entertainment So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nassau,Bahamas Posts: 2,326	Be quiet!

07-18-2002, 03:50 AM	#25
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 20,166	maybe you shouldn't have had anything illegal on your servers then?! __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

07-18-2002, 03:57 AM	#26
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Just don't do dialers. The surfer gets screwed by the webmaster, the webmaster gets screwed by the program owner, the program owner gets screwed by the dialer company

07-18-2002, 04:40 AM	#27
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	I cant believe this thread has gone this far without mentioning Jesus Dialer. Jesus Dialer is the only dialer I know that has never withheld payments.

07-18-2002, 05:41 AM	#28
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	if you had only rape and incest stories and keep denying to pay you, sue them. Rape and incest stories, although it's not in taste of the majority here, neither mine, they are not illegal. How often they send payments? Why they didnt cancel and inform you earlier? You are talking for the period march to july.

07-18-2002, 05:43 AM	#29
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	dialer AND dialer companies AND dialer resellers <> honest AND fair

07-18-2002, 05:50 AM	#30
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	" that contained incest/rape stories in txt format." ... well if you were infringing their t&t´s ... what´s your problem ?? they are doing the right thing !! I got cheated over the same amount by australian cocksucker greg lasrado, so I kinda know how that feels ... but your story is a little differet ...

07-18-2002, 05:50 AM	#31
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Anyone still using spacedogdialer.com?

07-18-2002, 05:56 AM	#32
some_idiot Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Doesn't matter, I'm not buying you another pint! Posts: 1,511	Can you say "unauthorized data access"? If you can, call the authorities... Criminal charges on top of a civil suit do wonders. If such fantasy stories are legal in your area and there was no pictures involved. The police should be out to investigate within an hour. Otherwise, cut the loses and stop fucking people with dialers.

07-18-2002, 09:52 AM	#34
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Thing is though screen shots of the server folders were taken and posted elsewhere clearly showing a lot of CP erotica. I'm not sure if it's legal as it's not pics but it most certainly isn't just incest stuff and was apparently made available in the members area. They guy fucked himself by pushing CP it looks like. The screen shots seem to prove it beyond doubt. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-18-2002, 10:01 AM	#35
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	guess fucking what ? Text Stories about CP and shit ARE NOT legaly considered Child Porn. The only proof they have is screenshots of text filenames ! Get fucking real here people. I'm not in any way in support of CP. It just looks like a company is trying to fuck a dude out of his money - they are just trying to find some reasons not to pay him. Yeah i know many of you hate dialers, etc. But TGPs arent doing much good to porn either.

07-18-2002, 10:23 AM	#36
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Depends entirely if their rules are clear on the child pornography issue or not. Legality does not mean it isn't breaking their TOS. If they are then he fucked himself. If they aren't then they're fucking him. Either way it's still a valuable lesson for many people and has been said earlier in this thread. Companies with 3rd party billing and payouts will rarely if ever fuck you over. Comapnies who pay money from their own account........ __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

07-18-2002, 10:55 AM	#37
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	hey, hustlin. i see you ganked my signup page again ass

07-18-2002, 11:03 AM	#38
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07-18-2002, 11:23 AM	#39
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	I haven't checked any other threads, just going off of what he says. But wouldn't it piss you guys if some other company started looking through your private files and information on your server? Then on top of that, decided to punish you and anyone that has had anything to do with you? I smell total bull shit. In the past I've had my servers hacked a couple times and hacking software was installed. My server was temporarily shut down, but I sure as hell wasn't held responsible for the hack. I'm pretty sure incest stories are not illegal, as I've seen them being sold at several content providers. Hell, I think I might even have some on my local box (yikes) that came in a story bundle (not incest) I bought once. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

07-18-2002, 11:27 AM	#40
gaby Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 712	they're CP stories... DialerCo posted the screenshots in AWI. the_certified_pedophile.txt kiddy_porn.txt

07-18-2002, 11:35 AM	#41
TopTGP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: poco, BC, Canada Posts: 546	Christ. Never trust a fucking dialer. And NEVER trust the assholes who are behind it __________________ I can't think of anything funny to say..

07-18-2002, 11:40 AM	#44
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	CP is sick. But what's the deal when it's only in text story format? Still sick to me. They claim it was accesible via the web via their dialer. If that IS the case, I believe they have the right to close him down. How can they prove that months after the fact though?

07-18-2002, 11:43 AM	#45
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	DarkJedi is right. Screen shots of file names do not prove anything. However... I would never put myself in the situation to be caught with such shit. You are only asking for problems and abuse if you promote CP in anyway way. It's just sick.

07-18-2002, 11:44 AM	#46
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07-18-2002, 11:47 AM	#48
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	And they get away with not paying 60K dollars for "child porn". All someone has to do is yell child orn and everyone is willing to roast them. This company will be making an extra 60K on "child porn". If they REALLY think it is child porn and REALLY are against it so much - how about donating the 60K to missing and exploited children or some other charity.