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  • trafficboy
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 73

    #1

    DialerCo is cheating me of $60,000 PLEASE READ

    DialerCo is refusing to pay me or my resellers for calls for the period of march to july for what they claim is a violation of their policies. During an unauthorized search of my server (via FTP, not via the web like all dialer users would access my site), they found old, unused remnants of design work that contained incest/rape stories in txt format. This old work was not available on my site through the members area, or via any means other than via ftp. A review of my server logs confirms that these files have NEVER been accessed via the web. Yet, the mere existence of these files is cited by DialerCo as a violation of their policies. Their response to my request to demonstrate how these files could ever have been accessed by a dialer user was the following: "It does not matter whether the content is accessible though a valid link or not.".

    So, they feel that they are free to explore the entire contents of any server hosting your content and hold you liable for anything they find on this server, regardless of the fact that it was never available on the web! Here is their reasoning for this: "You offered DialerCo FTP access to your server, without any conditions, so we are/were completely within our power and rights to view ALL of your server content.". So regardless who owns the content, regardless of it's availability from the web, if it's on a server hosting your content, DialerCo will withhold payment to you and all your reseller/webmasters.

    My resellers are run their own custom dialers, directing traffic to their own content. Other than the fact that they came to DialerCo through me, there is no connection to me or my content site, yet payment for the calls generated by these resellers promoting sites that are entirely different is being withheld as well.

    Just when you think DialerCo could not sink any lower, now they are directly pursuing my resellers and webmasters trying to take them away from me. You see, this whole thing has nothing to do with some old .txt files sitting on my server, it is because I was making preparations to leave DialerCo and they are trying to punish me, by withholding over $60,000 and then stealing my resellers and webmasters.

    Deal with DialerCo at your own risk. They will invent reasons to withhold payment from you and then move to steal your resellers and webmasters immediately after.

    Very dirty, very low, very shameful. DialerCo, your reputation will catch up with you, you can't keep screwing Resellers and expect to get away with it forever.
    Contact ICQ ******* to get the complete exchange of e-mails with Dialerco and proof of their fraudulant behaviour or send an e-mail to **************

    We are ready to show any proof, including our member area.

    Thanks

    Ezdialeronline
  • Muff
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2001
    • 1782

    #2
    http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=35058

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    • Hustlin Entertainment
      So Fucking Banned
      • May 2002
      • 2326

      #3
      Always watch for who's who in this business. especially dialers!

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      • Hustlin Entertainment
        So Fucking Banned
        • May 2002
        • 2326

        #4
        watch out for telcoweb espcially or dialerco. not very reliable companies!

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        • Muff
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2001
          • 1782

          #5
          Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
          watch out for telcoweb espcially or dialerco. not very reliable companies!
          Please do enlightin us on your reasoning?

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          • Hustlin Entertainment
            So Fucking Banned
            • May 2002
            • 2326

            #6
            :D

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            • Amputate Your Head
              There can be only one
              • Aug 2001
              • 39075

              #7
              is it their server or one you obtained outside of them?
              SIG TOO BIG

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              • Krome
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 2851

                #8
                He has been crying about this on every board going. He is called Nino or something like that. He wont reply..ask Shemp..I have had problems with servers but never the Child Porn/Rape pictures all of a sudden appearing on it syndrome.


                I have checked the Unix/Linux and Windows manuals and they do not have a section in there with regard to "What to do if CP and Rape suddenly appear on your server" section...

                I my opinion any daft oooo stupid enough to have rape and CP pictures deserves everything he gets....
                Last edited by Krome; 07-18-2002, 02:27 AM.

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                • [Labret]
                  Registered User
                  • May 2001
                  • 10945

                  #9
                  How does it feel to take it in the ass like the surfers did?

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                  • AWW - Kevin
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 2353

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Muff


                    Please do enlightin us on your reasoning?

                    check his sign.


                    Add Your Resource
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                    • Amputate Your Head
                      There can be only one
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 39075

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Krome
                      I my opinion any daft oooo stupid enough to have rape and CP pictures deserves everything he gets....
                      hehehe... well, I was going there the long way, but you just cut to the chase there Krome... lol..... no need for me to drag it out now.
                      SIG TOO BIG

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                      • Gutterboy
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 4751

                        #12
                        Originally posted by [Labret]
                        How does it feel to take it in the ass like the surfers did?
                        ouch

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                        • quiet
                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 25115

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Krome
                          I have had problems with servers but never the Child Porn/Rape pictures all of a sudden appearing on it syndrome.
                          there was pics too? smooth...
                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                          • Krome
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 2851

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

                            hehehe... well, I was going there the long way, but you just cut to the chase there Krome... lol..... no need for me to drag it out now.
                            He wont reply anyway....he is just cut 'n' paste spamming...

                            oi trafficboy let me rape your underage daughter, or son I am not picky, and put it on the net...

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                            • Amputate Your Head
                              There can be only one
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 39075

                              #15
                              oh yeah? Well then....

                              trafficboy, I hate to be the bringer of bad news on this stressful day for you, but..... the rumors are true..... I fucked your daddy in the mouth years ago. (more than once)
                              SIG TOO BIG

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                              • Muff
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 1782

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AWW - Kevin



                                check his sign.
                                I saw . But figured I would throw some kindling on the fire.

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                                • Hustlin Entertainment
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 2326

                                  #17
                                  stop children!

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                                  • Amputate Your Head
                                    There can be only one
                                    • Aug 2001
                                    • 39075

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
                                    stop children!
                                    yes.... I agree! Stop them! They're too young to be looking at porn!
                                    SIG TOO BIG

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                                    • Krome
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 2851

                                      #19
                                      actually...and do not let traffic boy know this ...but I am going to bugger his mother tonight while she sleeps (I reckon she will soon wake up but the restraints will hold her in place) then put it on the web on the site www.trafficboyfamilyrape.com . I just hope my dialer company will pay me...

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                                      • quiet
                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                        • Sep 2001
                                        • 25115

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
                                        stop children!
                                        from doing what?
                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                        • Sex4it
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 784

                                          #21
                                          I'm back and happy about it.

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                                          • Hustlin Entertainment
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 2326

                                            #22
                                            Be quiet!

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                                            • Amputate Your Head
                                              There can be only one
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 39075

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
                                              Be quiet!
                                              he already is quiet....
                                              SIG TOO BIG

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                                              • Tipsy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 6989

                                                #24
                                                Hmmm...seems it went beyond rape and incest into full blown CP stories made available to members. Looks like the guy fucked himself if the what they say is true and it seems they can prove it.

                                                60k's a lot of money to screw yourself out of. Scary thing is how much that's cost the guys calling to see it if he made 60k? Still, if they were after CP shit I've no sympathy for him or the people with the big telephone bills.
                                                Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                • 421Fill
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                  • 20659

                                                  #25
                                                  maybe you shouldn't have had anything illegal on your servers then?!

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                                                  • SR
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 2239

                                                    #26
                                                    Just don't do dialers.

                                                    The surfer gets screwed by the webmaster, the webmaster gets screwed by the program owner, the program owner gets screwed by the dialer company

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                                                    • Ted
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 830

                                                      #27
                                                      I cant believe this thread has gone this far without mentioning Jesus Dialer.

                                                      Jesus Dialer is the only dialer I know that has never withheld payments.

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                                                      • Theo
                                                        HAL 9000
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 34515

                                                        #28
                                                        if you had only rape and incest stories and keep denying to pay you, sue them. Rape and incest stories, although it's not in taste of the majority here, neither mine, they are not illegal. How often they send payments? Why they didnt cancel and inform you earlier? You are talking for the period march to july.

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                                                        • Theo
                                                          HAL 9000
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 34515

                                                          #29
                                                          dialer AND dialer companies AND dialer resellers <> honest AND fair

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                                                          • funkmaster
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                            • 7938

                                                            #30
                                                            " that contained incest/rape stories in txt format."

                                                            ... well if you were infringing their t&t´s ... what´s your problem ?? they are doing the right thing !!

                                                            I got cheated over the same amount by australian cocksucker greg lasrado, so I kinda know how that feels ... but your story is a little differet ...

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                                                            • evildick

                                                              #31
                                                              Anyone still using spacedogdialer.com?

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                                                              • some_idiot
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2002
                                                                • 1511

                                                                #32
                                                                Can you say "unauthorized data access"?

                                                                If you can, call the authorities... Criminal charges
                                                                on top of a civil suit do wonders.

                                                                If such fantasy stories are legal in your area and there
                                                                was no pictures involved. The police should be out
                                                                to investigate within an hour.

                                                                Otherwise, cut the loses and stop fucking people
                                                                with dialers.

                                                                This AVS pays my mortgage!

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                                                                • Theo
                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 34515

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by evildick
                                                                  Anyone still using spacedogdialer.com?
                                                                  of course,don't forget it was the backup dialer when jesus dialer was down due to Congo problems

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                                                                  • Tipsy
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 6989

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Thing is though screen shots of the server folders were taken and posted elsewhere clearly showing a lot of CP erotica. I'm not sure if it's legal as it's not pics but it most certainly isn't just incest stuff and was apparently made available in the members area.

                                                                    They guy fucked himself by pushing CP it looks like. The screen shots seem to prove it beyond doubt.
                                                                    Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                    • DarkJedi
                                                                      No Refunds Issued.
                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                      • 28301

                                                                      #35
                                                                      guess fucking what ?

                                                                      Text Stories about CP and shit ARE NOT legaly considered Child Porn. The only proof they have is screenshots of text filenames !
                                                                      Get fucking real here people.


                                                                      I'm not in any way in support of CP. It just looks like a company is trying to fuck a dude out of his money - they are just trying to find some reasons not to pay him.

                                                                      Yeah i know many of you hate dialers, etc. But TGPs arent doing much good to porn either.

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                                                                      • Tipsy
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 6989

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Depends entirely if their rules are clear on the child pornography issue or not. Legality does not mean it isn't breaking their TOS. If they are then he fucked himself. If they aren't then they're fucking him.

                                                                        Either way it's still a valuable lesson for many people and has been said earlier in this thread. Companies with 3rd party billing and payouts will rarely if ever fuck you over. Comapnies who pay money from their own account........
                                                                        Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                        • ztik
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 5196

                                                                          #37
                                                                          hey, hustlin. i see you ganked my signup page again
                                                                          ass
                                                                          .

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                                                                          • Fletch XXX
                                                                            GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                            • 60840

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Rape stories and incest stories aren't illegal?

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                                                                            • Sly_RJ
                                                                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 17042

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I haven't checked any other threads, just going off of what he says. But wouldn't it piss you guys if some other company started looking through your private files and information on your server? Then on top of that, decided to punish you and anyone that has had anything to do with you? I smell total bull shit.

                                                                              In the past I've had my servers hacked a couple times and hacking software was installed. My server was temporarily shut down, but I sure as hell wasn't held responsible for the hack.

                                                                              I'm pretty sure incest stories are not illegal, as I've seen them being sold at several content providers. Hell, I think I might even have some on my local box (yikes) that came in a story bundle (not incest) I bought once.
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                                                                              • gaby
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 712

                                                                                #40
                                                                                they're CP stories... DialerCo posted the screenshots in AWI.

                                                                                the_certified_pedophile.txt
                                                                                kiddy_porn.txt

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                                                                                • TopTGP
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 546

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Christ. Never trust a fucking dialer. And NEVER trust the assholes who are behind it
                                                                                  I can't think of anything funny to say..

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                                                                                  • gaby
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 712

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    just to name two...

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                                                                                    • TopTGP
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 546

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      And just why the hell are those "stories" hidden in your site, anyway?
                                                                                      I can't think of anything funny to say..

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                                                                                      • HQ
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 3539

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        CP is sick. But what's the deal when it's only in text story format? Still sick to me. They claim it was accesible via the web via their dialer. If that IS the case, I believe they have the right to close him down.

                                                                                        How can they prove that months after the fact though?

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                                                                                        • HQ
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 3539

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          DarkJedi is right. Screen shots of file names do not prove anything.

                                                                                          However... I would never put myself in the situation to be caught with such shit. You are only asking for problems and abuse if you promote CP in anyway way. It's just sick.

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                                                                                          • Wiredoctor
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 1632

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            More Dialer assholes down the tube is a good thing
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                                                                                            • hahmike
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 2488

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              interesting...

                                                                                              Originally posted by gaby
                                                                                              they're CP stories... DialerCo posted the screenshots in AWI.

                                                                                              the_certified_pedophile.txt
                                                                                              kiddy_porn.txt
                                                                                              where did he post that screenshot of those filenames?

                                                                                              i can't see it.

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                                                                                              • Chris R
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 1151

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                And they get away with not paying 60K dollars for "child porn".

                                                                                                All someone has to do is yell child orn and everyone is willing to roast them. This company will be making an extra 60K on "child porn".

                                                                                                If they REALLY think it is child porn and REALLY are against it so much - how about donating the 60K to missing and exploited children or some other charity.

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                                                                                                • gaby
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 712

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by hahmike
                                                                                                  interesting...


                                                                                                  where did he post that screenshot of those filenames?

                                                                                                  i can't see it.


                                                                                                  In AWI... Aaron Bray from DialerCO replied and included the following link:
                                                                                                  http://www.dialerco.com/tavassi.doc

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                                                                                                  • Wiredoctor
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                                    • 1632

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Chris R
                                                                                                    And they get away with not paying 60K dollars for "child porn".

                                                                                                    All someone has to do is yell child orn and everyone is willing to roast them. This company will be making an extra 60K on "child porn".

                                                                                                    If they REALLY think it is child porn and REALLY are against it so much - how about donating the 60K to missing and exploited children or some other charity.
                                                                                                    Very good point..... If they just keep the money then they are as guilty if not more!!
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