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ReneK 12-04-2006 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 11452715)
Hey Franck Cutsomer Support is most places sucks and you know that. I am sure that they are not the firs company that you have had an issue with. But since Czarina took over, things that been a lot better, and she does answer the icq and mail. And as for this thread, the only thing I see other than the idiot that started it, is that people say the CS is not the best, but in general happy.

So dont make drama where it is not needed.

idiot ? hope you have a mirror out there, take a look you'll see one... i'm not the only one here who has problems, learn to read first

Czarina.. just counted my ICQ history, paged you 8 times when you were online.. no reply.. and my ICQ works perfect.. what about the mails, never received them either ? Your email based form isn't functioning ?

czarina 12-04-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by geedub (Post 11452770)
I can also vouch for how horrid these people are with custom work, here is my story :)

I'd say about three weeks ago I ordered a custom site after having nice results with my premade blog templates, I figured this has to work out... So I get an order done it costs 285 bucks, Ok, so I prepay 70 bucks cause thats what they wanted, no biggie... I go out of town on the weekends and shit, I let Czarina know blah blah no big deal. She has some stuff go down that makes her gone for a day, again no biggie... Here we are now, I notice some small errors with my final design that I ok'd and paid the remainder for... Now Czarina tells me that she will persoanlly fix these so they are done right away. I'm thinking sweet, I get to start this new project today.... I get it back with more errors than before and different html that looked like a retarded 5 year old put together. After numerous other changes, I get this fucked up design that is impossible to work with. So here I sit over 3 weeks since they started working on this, with the main part of the design done and not right, and the matching gallery template is nowhere to be found. All I have to say is FUCK YOU XLABOR.COM, APC DAVE, AND YOU CZARINA. FUCK YOU.

Thanks to a new guy, I got a new design that looks ten times better for half the price, and guess what guys??? IT WAS DONE THE SAME DAY! YAY!

If you need a premade blog template, you might wanna go with these guys, but for any custom work stay far, far away.


First off, the html is produced by photoshop when it slices the image, so I will have to talk to those retarded 5 year old programmers over at Adobe.com about the slicing.
Other than that, I did exactly what you asked me for. I sent you the template and you approved it, so I had it sliced by our designer and put into HTML and sent to you. You then asked me for a few changes, and I did them myself. Once it was delivered you asked me for even more changes, so I sent you those as well. We did exactly what you asked, and you approved and accepted it, otherwise, we would still be working on your project. If you weren't happy in the first place, why would you pay the remainder?

czarina 12-04-2006 11:54 AM

ONCE AGAIN:

reneK: give me your icq number, and I will message you right now.
I swear I haven't gotten a thing from you.
Are you messaging my number? 276-592-701?

emthree 12-04-2006 11:55 AM

Their whole "Free Logo" thing is funny. I asked for a site name change on one of the templates, and all they did was add arial text to the header in photoshop with my site's name. Not even a decent font was used. Not a big issue, I just felt like ranting about it. Other than that, my experience was fairly decent.

Rhino22 12-04-2006 11:59 AM

thread has potential ;)

Dirty F 12-04-2006 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 11452856)
ONCE AGAIN:

reneK: give me your icq number, and I will message you right now.
I swear I haven't gotten a thing from you.
Are you messaging my number? 276-592-701?

Then check your mail server, your icq, your computer and your mail form for errors because CLEARLY you are missing bunches of emails/icq's.

czarina 12-04-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by emthree (Post 11452864)
Their whole "Free Logo" thing is funny. I asked for a site name change on one of the templates, and all they did was add arial text to the header in photoshop with my site's name. Not even a decent font was used. Not a big issue, I just felt like ranting about it. Other than that, my experience was fairly decent.

When you order one of our templates, and we "customize" the logo, what we do is take the PSD of the template, and change the text to read instead of "Teenie Update" (for instance) to "Your Site Name".. The font used is the same one that you see in the original template. If it is in Arial in the template, then it will be in Arial in your site, unless you request a different font explicitely.
I don't recall anybody requesting a different font, so...

czarina 12-04-2006 12:06 PM

if you want it changed now, I can do it. The people here who have dealt with me personally know that I will go out of my way to help them.

DaddyHalbucks 12-04-2006 12:16 PM

I bought a blog template 2 weeks ago, Czarina said she needed my contact info, I gave Czarina my email addresses days ago, still nothing.

Very unhappy here.

ReneK 12-04-2006 12:20 PM

hmm.. seems i have czarinas attention now.. took a while :)

noblice 12-04-2006 12:22 PM

51,........

interracialtoons 12-04-2006 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReneK (Post 11451887)
Just want to warn fellow webmasters about Xlabor before they purchase anything, their support is the WORST i've ever seen ! Their templates look nice, so i purchased, created my blog but stumbled upon a big error (!) in their template.

Not any answer to my ICQ's, no respond on emails, nothing ! Do NOT purchase anything from them, i'm sure there are much better designers around who DO provide support & service after purchase.. seems i'm not the only one having problems, they even don't deliver their templates, just do a search on GFY ! :mad:

Slow response, or shitty support, or code error is not a "scam". :2 cents:

Doctor Dre 12-04-2006 12:40 PM

Customer support at most places sucks... But they aren't a scam.

You always get what you pay for.

czarina 12-04-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 11453122)
I bought a blog template 2 weeks ago, Czarina said she needed my contact info, I gave Czarina my email addresses days ago, still nothing.

Very unhappy here.

What do you mean no response? I attached the themes and emailed them to you as soon as I got your email address.

stef_girls18 12-04-2006 12:55 PM

They have a pretty good reputation

czarina 12-04-2006 12:57 PM

Guys, instead of trying to figure out what is going on, I will do the following:

First, APOLOGIZE for any issues that you may have had getting in touch with us.
Second, I will dump those email addresses and the form on the site. Please contact me at the email address czarina (at) xlabor.com instead.
Third, I'm downloading trillian to avoid any issues with ICQ.

Last: If you have had a problem or any sort of issue with Xlabor, please get in touch with me, and I will take care of it, RIGHT NOW. And, I will do whatever it takes to make you HAPPY.

Babaganoosh 12-04-2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 11452320)
Guys, I haven't gotten a single ICQ or email that I haven't replied to.

That's horseshit. I have NEVER gotten an ICQ reply from you. I have sent a few messages using the form on the xlabor site too and have never received a response. The only way I ever get anything out of xlabor is to contact APC Dave and he gets shit squared away relatively quickly.

Dirty F 12-04-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 11453501)
Guys, instead of trying to figure out what is going on, I will do the following:

First, APOLOGIZE for any issues that you may have had getting in touch with us.
Second, I will dump those email addresses and the form on the site. Please contact me at the email address czarina (at) xlabor.com instead.
Third, I'm downloading trillian to avoid any issues with ICQ.

Last: If you have had a problem or any sort of issue with Xlabor, please get in touch with me, and I will take care of it, RIGHT NOW. And, I will do whatever it takes to make you HAPPY.

Good. I hope it will prevent future miscommunication.

Babaganoosh 12-04-2006 01:07 PM

http://www.perldesk.com/
and
http://phplivesupport.com/

are the only ways to fix this issue. ICQ has been garbage for a long time. It will piss off webmasters when you stop offering ICQ support but it beats having threads like this. Perl Desk will issue ticket numbers and track responses to the tickets so neither party can claim that the other hasn't responded.

PHP Live Support is a live chat that runs on your server. It will save logs and works every time. If your client has a browser, they can use it.

bl4h 12-04-2006 01:42 PM

cool i get to complain about xlabor. I ordered templates, but i do not feel they were worth the money. The service was good. I ordered and got it via email fairly quickly. When loaded into worpress it looks just like it did in the screenshot before i ordered.

However, the html is shit. It isnt compliant. Theres all kind of shit hard coded that you have to rip out (links and other various things). Its html 0.1 or some shit. Took me a few hours to get it converted over to valid xhtml. I dont know why they dont do this themselves.

Anyway, i could have build the design with the time i spent fixing it. Hope this criticism leads to better

baddog 12-04-2006 01:45 PM

xlabor has been nothing but good as far as I am concerned

baddog 12-04-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11453516)
That's horseshit. I have NEVER gotten an ICQ reply from you. I have sent a few messages using the form on the xlabor site too and have never received a response. The only way I ever get anything out of xlabor is to contact APC Dave and he gets shit squared away relatively quickly.

yeah, and we all know how reliable ICQ is :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

czarina 12-04-2006 01:49 PM

thanx, babaganoosh. We will get the ticket system, it should be better than having these issues.

czarina 12-04-2006 01:49 PM

and.... thank you baddog. you're such a nice doogie :)

tenderobject 12-04-2006 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 11452320)
Guys, I haven't gotten a single ICQ or email that I haven't replied to. If you need help with anything regarding Xlabor, please ICQ me. I am available monday thru saturday, from 7 or 8am until 8pm.

hey man.. i posted on some threads here a few days ago if you still do support for old theme but it seem ignored. i tried contacting you on icq to get some help. didn't get an answer.. sent you messages almost 2 weeks ago i think.. not a big deal though...

although, the support was great and helpful when dave is around. im sure he is very very very busy so he haven't check the problem with my template.. xlabor isn't a scammer in my book!!!

chartgraves 12-04-2006 01:57 PM

I read this thread right as I have their site open looking to purchase a template - lol .... Luckily as I read through the thread instead of quitting after the first 10 posts I see that support is better now that someone else is running it - So I continue browsing their site in hopes to find a perfect template!

Gabriel 12-04-2006 02:58 PM

Hardly a scam, growing pains maybe?

Weg purchased a custom template back in may, they had it done within 3-4 days. Dealt with Dave and had no problems at all and we are happy.

sicone 12-04-2006 03:02 PM

Nothing but good experience's in my dealings with xlabor

dooglas 12-04-2006 03:09 PM

I haven't had any problems with them. Quality service all the time.

Ace_luffy 12-04-2006 03:24 PM

oh my... i hope XLABORs solve the problem

goodluck xlabor!

Machete_ 12-04-2006 03:29 PM

They arent scammers as far as I know, but they are sucky outsourcing company like the rest.


Bottom line: You get what you pay for, and you pay for what you get

SomeCreep 12-04-2006 04:09 PM

This thread is disappointing, especially since I was thinking of buying some themes from xlabor.

jasonir 12-04-2006 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 11455047)
This thread is disappointing, especially since I was thinking of buying some themes from xlabor.

You cite the thread but it appears as though you did not read the thread. :2 cents:

fris 12-04-2006 04:57 PM

xlabor used to be good, its gone down hill now

Sosa 12-04-2006 04:59 PM

I have no had one problem with them. Support has been top notch also.

Wiggles 12-04-2006 06:11 PM

i had no problem with my support questions getting answered.

aztecboi2003 12-04-2006 06:22 PM

Xlabor's not a scam at all. I order a template from them and Czarina was very helpful and had it uploaded for me the next day. Everytime I need to reach her by icq she's been there.

SomeCreep 12-04-2006 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir (Post 11455308)
You cite the thread but it appears as though you did not read the thread. :2 cents:

This thread is GFY typical. There are lots of negative and positive comments. In order to form an opinion, you need to know which comments are merely "friends/political/kiss ass", and which are real opinions from ordinary-everyday webmasters who have used the service. In this thread, the comments that are real are the ones citing neglected support/emails and outsourced labor. From what I can tell, everything else is bullocks.

mightyjoe 12-04-2006 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 11453904)
and.... thank you baddog. you're such a nice doogie :)

i read the first thread and i therefore conclude that only those big and known webmasters are they keep caring for. sorry for lowlife and always broke webmaster out there like me, you're rarely get attention from them. :2 cents:

SlamDesigns 12-04-2006 09:02 PM

Well, I have never had any problem with XLabor (since Czarina has taken over), and I am far from being a "big and known webmaster". She always answers my ICQ messages immediately if she's on, and within a couple hours if she isn't.

If I do have one complaint with XLabor, it's what someone else mentioned earlier...the hard coding of some parts of the themes. I like to throw the theme in the theme directory, and then control everything (links, categories, etc.) from the control panel. You have to do a little modifying before you can do that with their themes...and I never have got that fucking CrazyPink one to work...but other than that I have no complaints with XLabor, Dave, or Czarina.


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