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PMdave · 12-03-2006, 07:20 AM

50

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellybuttonlint

YOU ARE 1 ABSOLUTE IDIOT.
A hacker will just fuckin steal your fucking files with out using a card.
stop blaming a " HACKER"
Its you.
Your allowing dirty affiliates
Your Webpage is designed to defraud people using old school marketing tactics.
You know exactly whats going on.
Your a greedy little piece of shit who deserves to get his merchant account taken away.

Aren't you the nicest person. He said his english sucks. When he says hacker he probably means passwordtraders or something. And as far as I have seen his tours there is nothing unusual about it. Marketing technics? Well duh! What are you a disgrunted surfer who feels he has been ripped of by a paysite?

Probono · 12-03-2006, 07:47 AM

I looked at your site and can only add to the choir. You are making a BIG mistake offering a $14.95 price point and defaulting to $69.95. Most people do not read and if I had a $69.95 charge when I expected $14.95 I would be pissed. Same logic if the charge was $29.95 when I expected $14.95.

If fraud is your intent then you should be canceled. If not either change the default to $14.95 or make it clear the the charge will be $29.95. This is the type of sales crap that caused all the issues and restrictions Visa has placed on the industry.

Methodcash Rick · 12-03-2006, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaivip

Most of Chargeback come from USA ....

No, most of your chargebacks are coming from Vietnam cocksuckers who share stolen credit card databases.

You need to HAND VERIFY EACH SIGNUP YOU GET through CCBill..

So much shit passes through there scrubbing, due to proxies, and the carders.

We asian niche sites are VERY prone to these vietnam cocksuckers.

Check your signups, track the IP, if it doesn't match the same city, I'd credit the charge, it's worked for us very well. It's more labor intensive, but it's worth it in the long run, as your CB problem will disappear.

Violetta · 12-03-2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono

You are making a BIG mistake offering a $14.95 price point and defaulting to $69.95. Most people do not read and if I had a $69.95 charge when I expected $14.95 I would be pissed. Same logic if the charge was $29.95 when I expected $14.95.

Yeah... true! Change that at ONCE, even though you've had it like that before! Just change it!

And add some passwordtrading/linkprotecting scripts!

Manowar · 12-03-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

No, most of your chargebacks are coming from Vietnam cocksuckers who share stolen credit card databases.

You need to HAND VERIFY EACH SIGNUP YOU GET through CCBill..

So much shit passes through there scrubbing, due to proxies, and the carders.

We asian niche sites are VERY prone to these vietnam cocksuckers.

Check your signups, track the IP, if it doesn't match the same city, I'd credit the charge, it's worked for us very well. It's more labor intensive, but it's worth it in the long run, as your CB problem will disappear.

True this^^^

stef_girls18 · 12-03-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

No, most of your chargebacks are coming from Vietnam cocksuckers who share stolen credit card databases.

You need to HAND VERIFY EACH SIGNUP YOU GET through CCBill..

So much shit passes through there scrubbing, due to proxies, and the carders.

We asian niche sites are VERY prone to these vietnam cocksuckers.

Check your signups, track the IP, if it doesn't match the same city, I'd credit the charge, it's worked for us very well. It's more labor intensive, but it's worth it in the long run, as your CB problem will disappear.

That is some interesting point. Didn't know that the asian sites are the target of a very special group of carders out there.

pastafari · 12-03-2006, 12:27 PM

It's not your problem, it's THEIR problem, they should improve their fraud protection system instead of threatening their customers.

stef_girls18 · 12-03-2006, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastafari

It's not your problem, it's THEIR problem, they should improve their fraud protection system instead of threatening their customers.

It's definately the problem of the merchant, not the billing gateway. It's clearly stated that way in all processing contracts.

hentaivip · 12-03-2006, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave

50

Aren't you the nicest person. He said his english sucks. When he says hacker he probably means passwordtraders or something. And as far as I have seen his tours there is nothing unusual about it. Marketing technics? Well duh! What are you a disgrunted surfer who feels he has been ripped of by a paysite?

Thanks .. Yes ! my english so Suck .. I mean HACKER is passwordtrader or something like that. I Void a lot of Women CreditCard. My site got a lot of Women CreditCard. I will use more script to protect it.

Du you have any great Protection Script to suggest ?

webgurl · 12-03-2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaivip

Thanks .. Yes ! my english so Suck .. I mean HACKER is passwordtrader or something like that. I Void a lot of Women CreditCard. My site got a lot of Women CreditCard. I will use more script to protect it.

Du you have any great Protection Script to suggest ?

not sure EXACTLY what your issue is. If is password sharing
issues try http://www.proxypass.com/
(sounds like what you need)
I know unseen Japan has been around for
very long time are u the original owner ?
Seems strange that you are experiencing your first
issues with password traders and fraud issues with CC right now ?
I am assuming you have been warned before and this is the last
draw with CCbill ? Am I right ?
Asian sites especially the non-N.America ones are major
targets for fraudulent activities .
Good Luck

V_RocKs · 12-03-2006, 06:58 PM

Funny how many people missed that he doesn't actually allow the $69.95 signups and that he just added that option before he made this thread...

Doctor Feelgood · 12-03-2006, 07:07 PM

i say keep the 69.95 on unseen japan!!
i checked ccbill stats for november and i found one single for 34.97
and one rebill for 14.97
i see no chargebacks or refunds on my side

and tell TIM we want more hosted galleries!!

hentaivip · 12-03-2006, 11:21 PM

webgurl

I'm original owner of unseenjapan and i have problem before
I try everything to fix that problem .. Ccbill tell me before about this
I try to VOID all account that can make chargeback .. but a lot of Passwd Trader signup to my site .. and i get a lot of CB too .. I will talk with CCBILL again about CCBILL can help something for me ? .. If you have any idea Please help me...

I'm not good in english .. sorry

I use Proxypass already.. But i think Proxypass cant fix this problem

and Doctor Feelgood

i will tell tim to make more hosted gallery

xcitecash · 12-04-2006, 01:18 AM

Its simple.... as a sponsor you look for evidence of fraud and tell ccbill what going on...cover your ass.

we had a shit load of "new" affiliates in a few days ...all women and all .us or .net url's... they rip offs of others TGP's etc ..then they send one hit to one sale and a lot of the so called new members were women ( who got their handbag stolen) its not hard to spot... tell ccbill and make them act....

Vince Charlton · 12-04-2006, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

I would start arranging a backup processor, if they pull the plug on you, you will be completely fucked...

Unfortunately, with chargeback ratio that high, you would be very lucky to get another processor on board. The main thing we look at when taking on new merchants is the trading/chargeback ratios.

Regards

Vince

jasminexxx · 12-04-2006, 05:30 AM

interesting thread

Paul Markham · 12-04-2006, 05:45 AM

BVF thanks for the heads up. Looking at CCBILL now, would it be womens names on the join form?

BVF · 12-04-2006, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

BVF thanks for the heads up. Looking at CCBILL now, would it be womens names on the join form?

They're mostly women but every once in awhile, the new fraudulent affiliate will be a man...but 99.99% of the surfer signups are women and it always includes the woman's last name in the username. They also use .us .net and .org domains that are ripoffs of larger sites like what dude said in a few posts above me.

Paul Markham · 12-04-2006, 06:04 AM

Checked CCBILL and our stats and everything looks fine.

We are all working in the dark and guessing. You need to get a couple of EXPERTS to help and give them access to your back end and your site.

They need to see what's the problem, when it started, where it's coming from and build a solution. Us guessing what the problem is, is no help to you.

If it just started or recent then you may have a fraud problem and you need to identify who sent the traffic. If it's long term then you need to address it and that will mean giving members easier access to get a refund and probably finding out why they asked for the charge back in the first place.

Stupid question but have you tried mailing the people doing the charge backs and asking them why?

We get 0.3% CB so never been a problem.

AlexShark · 12-04-2006, 01:08 PM

I read several suggestions but none of them would stop a pro carder, still it's ok for newbies.

I would recommend anyway to:
- compare country and state of signup ip with country and state of signup form
- compare join ip location with logins ip location
- compare country of credit card bin with country of ip and country on join form
- validate email address
- validate phone number using online phone books

Again this won't stop a pro carder but still better than nothing.

My 2 cents

One good free tool for manual lookups is this:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/pages/merchant.htm

AlexShark · 12-04-2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Agreed.

ban half the world countries for my paysite ... and I still think another 50 countries should be added ...

- All eastern Europe

- All middle East, including Israel

- All Africa

- All Carribean Islands

OK, let me take the shorter route. Allow:

- USA
- Canada
- Europe ( the old one, the one of Rumsfeld )

That is IT !

Once upon a time there was a thing called proxy

AlexShark · 12-04-2006, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastafari

It's not your problem, it's THEIR problem, they should improve their fraud protection system instead of threatening their customers.

Yeah kinda sucks but not as bad as PayCom's

MyVirtualCard had a decent one, wonder if they owe the coders as much as they owe affiliates

AlexShark · 12-04-2006, 01:16 PM

Awempire's site LiveJasmin has a very good antifraud system! thumbs up for them!

ForteCash · 12-04-2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave

50

Aren't you the nicest person. He said his english sucks. When he says hacker he probably means passwordtraders or something. And as far as I have seen his tours there is nothing unusual about it. Marketing technics? Well duh! What are you a disgrunted surfer who feels he has been ripped of by a paysite?

GFY is full of VERY mean spirited people

corvette · 12-04-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

No, most of your chargebacks are coming from Vietnam cocksuckers who share stolen credit card databases.

You need to HAND VERIFY EACH SIGNUP YOU GET through CCBill..

So much shit passes through there scrubbing, due to proxies, and the carders.

We asian niche sites are VERY prone to these vietnam cocksuckers.

Check your signups, track the IP, if it doesn't match the same city, I'd credit the charge, it's worked for us very well. It's more labor intensive, but it's worth it in the long run, as your CB problem will disappear.

rick, do you have contact information? icq or email address?

hentaivip · 12-04-2006, 09:30 PM

can i move old rebill and customer in CCbill to new Creditcard Processor?
Could you suggest Great other Creditcard processor ?

Timothy · 12-05-2006, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

i say keep the 69.95 on unseen japan!!
i checked ccbill stats for november and i found one single for 34.97
and one rebill for 14.97
i see no chargebacks or refunds on my side

and tell TIM we want more hosted galleries!!

Do you mean..... ME???

hentaivip · 12-05-2006, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy

Do you mean..... ME???

No Tim is my friend , and tim make timcash

hentaivip · 12-05-2006, 04:03 AM

ahhh Sorry

yes Tim .. you are my friend ha ha

Antonio · 12-05-2006, 04:29 AM

These answers have my vote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

No, most of your chargebacks are coming from Vietnam cocksuckers who share stolen credit card databases.

You need to HAND VERIFY EACH SIGNUP YOU GET through CCBill..

So much shit passes through there scrubbing, due to proxies, and the carders.

We asian niche sites are VERY prone to these vietnam cocksuckers.

Check your signups, track the IP, if it doesn't match the same city, I'd credit the charge, it's worked for us very well. It's more labor intensive, but it's worth it in the long run, as your CB problem will disappear.

and:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexShark

I read several suggestions but none of them would stop a pro carder, still it's ok for newbies.

I would recommend anyway to:
- compare country and state of signup ip with country and state of signup form
- compare join ip location with logins ip location
- compare country of credit card bin with country of ip and country on join form
- validate email address
- validate phone number using online phone books

Again this won't stop a pro carder but still better than nothing.

My 2 cents

One good free tool for manual lookups is this:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/pages/merchant.htm

and BVFs post on the first page.

Porbably the best you can do right now is stay in touch with CCBILL ALL THE TIME, make sure that they know that you're doing your best to resolve the issue.

Good luck !!!

johndoebob · 12-05-2006, 04:50 AM

The problem is either caused by password traders or chargebacks due to insufficient satisfaction, as I see your sites have an oldschool cookie cutter design and thus might only provide matching content that few people want to pay for these days.

The best way to lower fraud is webmaster monitoring and automated phone number verification.

http://www.phoneconfirm.com/
http://www.proveout.com/
http://www.verexo.com/

etc.

stef_girls18 · 12-05-2006, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob

The problem is either caused by password traders or chargebacks due to insufficient satisfaction, as I see your sites have an oldschool cookie cutter design and thus might only provide matching content that few people want to pay for these days.

The best way to lower fraud is webmaster monitoring and automated phone number verification.

http://www.phoneconfirm.com/
http://www.proveout.com/
http://www.verexo.com/

etc.

Automated phone number verification sounds like a good idea

Timothy · 12-05-2006, 05:42 AM

Some of you guys may misunderstand hentaivip's issue.

A group of guys attacked his site by using large numbers of stolen credit cards. Most of the owner, whose cards are stolen, are from North America and Europe, and they don't know what the shit is; so they chargeback. These attackers use some kind of untrackable proxy to hide their real origin, they even signup randomly for every affiliates for some unknown purpose, maybe to kill the site down from chargeback ratio. Hentaivip did a lot of things against this situation, but maybe it can not held for long because they chargeback too much very often. If ccbill terminate this account, then we can assume that if this shit happens with our own site as well, we will face a very high risk that we can not fight against.

Turf · 12-05-2006, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy

Some of you guys may misunderstand hentaivip's issue.

A group of guys attacked his site by using large numbers of stolen credit cards. Most of the owner, whose cards are stolen, are from North America and Europe, and they don't know what the shit is; so they chargeback. These attackers use some kind of untrackable proxy to hide their real origin, they even signup randomly for every affiliates for some unknown purpose, maybe to kill the site down from chargeback ratio. Hentaivip did a lot of things against this situation, but maybe it can not held for long because they chargeback too much very often. If ccbill terminate this account, then we can assume that if this shit happens with our own site as well, we will face a very high risk that we can not fight against.

seems strange that they would go after killing a site like that, most scammers out there wants money so would make sense for them to use their own affiliate numbers etc..

so perhaps they have 5-8 different affiliate accounts and am trying to spread the risk that way ?

hentaivip · 12-05-2006, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy

Some of you guys may misunderstand hentaivip's issue.

A group of guys attacked his site by using large numbers of stolen credit cards. Most of the owner, whose cards are stolen, are from North America and Europe, and they don't know what the shit is; so they chargeback. These attackers use some kind of untrackable proxy to hide their real origin, they even signup randomly for every affiliates for some unknown purpose, maybe to kill the site down from chargeback ratio. Hentaivip did a lot of things against this situation, but maybe it can not held for long because they chargeback too much very often. If ccbill terminate this account, then we can assume that if this shit happens with our own site as well, we will face a very high risk that we can not fight against.

Yes... That is my problem, CCBILL give me 1 month for fix this problem
I must have Chargeback under 2.0% .. in this month or My CCbill account will stop !!

What should i do ?

Can i move all rebill and old customer to new CCProcessor ?

BVF · 12-05-2006, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaivip

Yes... That is my problem, CCBILL give me 1 month for fix this problem
I must have Chargeback under 2.0% .. in this month or My CCbill account will stop !!

What should i do ?

Can i move all rebill and old customer to new CCProcessor ?

Since you get emails when affiliates sign up or send sales, everytime you see a fraudulent affiliate sale email, forward it to [email protected] and tell them to kill the account...This is what I now do...I have the account cancelled before they even get a chance to send a fraudulent sale.

Do this continuously and you can effectively kill any future fraud....

Timothy · 12-05-2006, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turf

seems strange that they would go after killing a site like that, most scammers out there wants money so would make sense for them to use their own affiliate numbers etc..

so perhaps they have 5-8 different affiliate accounts and am trying to spread the risk that way ?

If they do own some risky affiliate accounts, no matter what their account may be termiated anyway. Overall higher CB would not hide them, but just force the site owner to take a closer look.

That's why i said they'er doing this for unknown purpose.

pornguy · 12-05-2006, 11:24 PM

try and find the affiliate that is causeing most of the carge backs, and terminate the account.

a1ka1ine · 12-14-2006, 09:07 AM

i hope you managed to act on some of the great advice in this thread - some great ideas!

One thing you can do, but this will take time.

Go through all of your chargebacks and identify all the affiliates, you may find that some of your affiliates are using bad marketing practices or some of them may even be trying to fraud you, usually using a few different affiliate accounts.

If you can identify any bad affiliates that are sending high numbers of chargebacks then this is one step closer to cleaning your traffic :D

I dont think voiding all the high price transactions is a good thing to do, I did a search and most of our chargebacks come from general subscriptions, the high price long term subscription options dont chargeback as much, maybe becuase they are one time charges and the surfer doesnt see a charge on his card 3 months later and it surprises him.

Good look, you have some oishii sites :D

BVF · 12-14-2006, 09:29 AM

The refunds and chargebacks are already starting to roll in from those scammers...Thank God most of them are refunds and not chargebacks...I killed every last fraudulent affiliate that I could find and as of now, I'm no longer seeing those bad sales coming through....

Don't be greedy and keep that money..I know I was definitely tempted because combined, they were sending a nice load of sales.....Report the fraud and get it over with so that you can continue doing honest business..

12-03-2006, 07:07 PM	#62
Doctor Feelgood Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: RI Posts: 2,112	i say keep the 69.95 on unseen japan!! i checked ccbill stats for november and i found one single for 34.97 and one rebill for 14.97 i see no chargebacks or refunds on my side and tell TIM we want more hosted galleries!! __________________ SUBMIT PORN BLOGS HERE SUBMIT PORN STAR GALLERIES Partner accounts for sale ICQ 467879053 Trade Traffic Trade Hardlinks Dot Com Auction Myspace Blog Now Hiring My network is in need of clean, honest, good traders for different niches. Contact

12-03-2006, 11:21 PM	#63
hentaivip Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 588	webgurl I'm original owner of unseenjapan and i have problem before I try everything to fix that problem .. Ccbill tell me before about this I try to VOID all account that can make chargeback .. but a lot of Passwd Trader signup to my site .. and i get a lot of CB too .. I will talk with CCBILL again about CCBILL can help something for me ? .. If you have any idea Please help me... I'm not good in english .. sorry I use Proxypass already.. But i think Proxypass cant fix this problem and Doctor Feelgood i will tell tim to make more hosted gallery __________________ http://www.dpbucks.com Promote : Unseenjapan.com http://www.avbucks.com Promote : AVLovers.com http://www.timcash.com Promote : Schoolgirlsfever.com Trade with me http://www.nichestrade.com/

12-04-2006, 05:45 AM	#67
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	BVF thanks for the heads up. Looking at CCBILL now, would it be womens names on the join form? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

12-04-2006, 06:04 AM	#69
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Checked CCBILL and our stats and everything looks fine. We are all working in the dark and guessing. You need to get a couple of EXPERTS to help and give them access to your back end and your site. They need to see what's the problem, when it started, where it's coming from and build a solution. Us guessing what the problem is, is no help to you. If it just started or recent then you may have a fraud problem and you need to identify who sent the traffic. If it's long term then you need to address it and that will mean giving members easier access to get a refund and probably finding out why they asked for the charge back in the first place. Stupid question but have you tried mailing the people doing the charge backs and asking them why? We get 0.3% CB so never been a problem. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

12-04-2006, 01:08 PM	#70
AlexShark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 476	I read several suggestions but none of them would stop a pro carder, still it's ok for newbies. I would recommend anyway to: - compare country and state of signup ip with country and state of signup form - compare join ip location with logins ip location - compare country of credit card bin with country of ip and country on join form - validate email address - validate phone number using online phone books Again this won't stop a pro carder but still better than nothing. My 2 cents One good free tool for manual lookups is this: http://www.dnsstuff.com/pages/merchant.htm __________________

12-03-2006, 07:47 AM	#52
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	I looked at your site and can only add to the choir. You are making a BIG mistake offering a $14.95 price point and defaulting to $69.95. Most people do not read and if I had a $69.95 charge when I expected $14.95 I would be pissed. Same logic if the charge was $29.95 when I expected $14.95. If fraud is your intent then you should be canceled. If not either change the default to $14.95 or make it clear the the charge will be $29.95. This is the type of sales crap that caused all the issues and restrictions Visa has placed on the industry.

12-03-2006, 12:27 PM	#57
pastafari Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ouagadougou , Burkina Faso Posts: 112	It's not your problem, it's THEIR problem, they should improve their fraud protection system instead of threatening their customers.

12-03-2006, 06:58 PM	#61
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Funny how many people missed that he doesn't actually allow the $69.95 signups and that he just added that option before he made this thread...

12-04-2006, 01:18 AM	#64
xcitecash Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 801	Its simple.... as a sponsor you look for evidence of fraud and tell ccbill what going on...cover your ass. we had a shit load of "new" affiliates in a few days ...all women and all .us or .net url's... they rip offs of others TGP's etc ..then they send one hit to one sale and a lot of the so called new members were women ( who got their handbag stolen) its not hard to spot... tell ccbill and make them act....

12-04-2006, 05:30 AM	#66
jasminexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,816	interesting thread

12-04-2006, 01:16 PM	#73
AlexShark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 476	Awempire's site LiveJasmin has a very good antifraud system! thumbs up for them! __________________

12-04-2006, 09:30 PM	#76
hentaivip Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 588	can i move old rebill and customer in CCbill to new Creditcard Processor? Could you suggest Great other Creditcard processor ? __________________ http://www.dpbucks.com Promote : Unseenjapan.com http://www.avbucks.com Promote : AVLovers.com http://www.timcash.com Promote : Schoolgirlsfever.com Trade with me http://www.nichestrade.com/

12-05-2006, 04:03 AM	#79
hentaivip Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 588	ahhh Sorry yes Tim .. you are my friend ha ha __________________ http://www.dpbucks.com Promote : Unseenjapan.com http://www.avbucks.com Promote : AVLovers.com http://www.timcash.com Promote : Schoolgirlsfever.com Trade with me http://www.nichestrade.com/

12-05-2006, 04:50 AM	#81
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	The problem is either caused by password traders or chargebacks due to insufficient satisfaction, as I see your sites have an oldschool cookie cutter design and thus might only provide matching content that few people want to pay for these days. The best way to lower fraud is webmaster monitoring and automated phone number verification. http://www.phoneconfirm.com/ http://www.proveout.com/ http://www.verexo.com/ etc. __________________

12-05-2006, 05:42 AM	#83
Timothy Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 153	Some of you guys may misunderstand hentaivip's issue. A group of guys attacked his site by using large numbers of stolen credit cards. Most of the owner, whose cards are stolen, are from North America and Europe, and they don't know what the shit is; so they chargeback. These attackers use some kind of untrackable proxy to hide their real origin, they even signup randomly for every affiliates for some unknown purpose, maybe to kill the site down from chargeback ratio. Hentaivip did a lot of things against this situation, but maybe it can not held for long because they chargeback too much very often. If ccbill terminate this account, then we can assume that if this shit happens with our own site as well, we will face a very high risk that we can not fight against.

12-05-2006, 11:24 PM	#88
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	try and find the affiliate that is causeing most of the carge backs, and terminate the account. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

12-14-2006, 09:07 AM	#89
a1ka1ine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,387	i hope you managed to act on some of the great advice in this thread - some great ideas! One thing you can do, but this will take time. Go through all of your chargebacks and identify all the affiliates, you may find that some of your affiliates are using bad marketing practices or some of them may even be trying to fraud you, usually using a few different affiliate accounts. If you can identify any bad affiliates that are sending high numbers of chargebacks then this is one step closer to cleaning your traffic :D I dont think voiding all the high price transactions is a good thing to do, I did a search and most of our chargebacks come from general subscriptions, the high price long term subscription options dont chargeback as much, maybe becuase they are one time charges and the surfer doesnt see a charge on his card 3 months later and it surprises him. Good look, you have some oishii sites :D

12-14-2006, 09:29 AM	#90
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