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03-01-2007, 12:43 PM

Went for my monthly drawing and was turned away at the AIM station in Vegas (Maryland pkwy) and there were a ton of FBI agents in there taking out boxes full of documents. They sent me to another draw station. It was the weirdest thing. A few reporters got sent out of the building also.

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03-01-2007, 12:48 PM

was this an official AIM location, or just one of their labs they contract with?

for instance, there is a place here in Atlanta called AnyLabTest, Inc...and while AIM has no part in owning it, it is a "drop station" and will send the blood to AIM in the valley
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03-01-2007, 12:57 PM

Looks like a scandal is about to explode.

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03-01-2007, 12:59 PM

Interesting indeed.

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03-01-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Jace

was this an official AIM location, or just one of their labs they contract with?

for instance, there is a place here in Atlanta called AnyLabTest, Inc...and while AIM has no part in owning it, it is a "drop station" and will send the blood to AIM in the valley

No it was just a draw station they use. I think the only official office they have are in LA.

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03-01-2007, 01:09 PM

AIM is here in chatsworth down the street. i was just told the rest are contractors.
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03-01-2007, 02:44 PM

yes it's well known that the FBI actively monitors popular messaging software

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03-01-2007, 02:46 PM

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03-01-2007, 02:47 PM

Woah.. If you find out any info, keep us posted.
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03-01-2007, 02:48 PM

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03-01-2007, 04:33 PM

What's an AIM drawstation?

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03-01-2007, 05:06 PM

I was raided day before yesterday everything is OK now.. they got what they needed and are looking into it... that is all I am going to say right now.. nobody was arrested from my camp..

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03-01-2007, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by DirtyDanza

I was raided day before yesterday everything is OK now.. they got what they needed and are looking into it... that is all I am going to say right now.. nobody was arrested from my camp..

You were raided, and that's all you have to say?!? How about a hint (drugs, guns, 2257, Kimbo)?

Somone should make a movie about your life...

To answer an earlier question in this thread, AIM draw stations are locations that draw blood and ship it to AIM for testing.

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03-01-2007, 05:35 PM

it could of been a tax issue
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03-02-2007, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by DirtyDanza

I was raided day before yesterday everything is OK now.. they got what they needed and are looking into it... that is all I am going to say right now.. nobody was arrested from my camp..

Damn dude, hope things are cool..

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03-02-2007, 12:26 AM

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03-02-2007, 12:29 AM

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you do realize a FED posts here right?

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03-02-2007, 12:30 AM

damn, the only useless GFY thread and I want more info and it dies! Fuck! This could turn out to be interesting!

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03-02-2007, 12:38 AM

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you do realize a FED posts here right?

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03-02-2007, 12:44 AM

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you do realize a FED posts here right?

And ??? Why would that matter

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03-02-2007, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Sebastian Sands

Went for my monthly drawing and was turned away at the AIM station in Vegas (Maryland pkwy) and there were a ton of FBI agents in there taking out boxes full of documents. They sent me to another draw station. It was the weirdest thing. A few reporters got sent out of the building also.

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03-02-2007, 12:57 AM

FBI was busy in Vegas today. A big email scam operation got raided and shut down as well.
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03-02-2007, 01:00 AM

What's an AIM drawstation??
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03-02-2007, 01:01 AM

Ah STD test center....
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03-02-2007, 01:03 AM

the thought of a government agency walking in and leaving with peoples' blood is not a good thought.

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03-02-2007, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by DirtyDanza

I was raided day before yesterday everything is OK now.. they got what they needed and are looking into it... that is all I am going to say right now.. nobody was arrested from my camp..

Wow you are soooo cool. Nobody from your 'camp', fighting against KIMBO, having 50 joins a day, uhm I mean just a few a day damn, I wish my life was exciting as yours

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03-02-2007, 01:47 AM

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03-02-2007, 02:03 AM

Good. Fuck AIM.

I have had a hard on for them since they didn't do shit about Jade Marcella using a fake HIV test from them a few years ago, and neither did her piece of shit agent. Everyone let her keep working, not a word was said even though I had proof in my hands and so did they.
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03-02-2007, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by DirtyDanza

I was raided day before yesterday everything is OK now.. they got what they needed and are looking into it... that is all I am going to say right now.. nobody was arrested from my camp..

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03-02-2007, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Good. Fuck AIM.

I have had a hard on for them since they didn't do shit about Jade Marcella using a fake HIV test from them a few years ago, and neither did her piece of shit agent. Everyone let her keep working, not a word was said even though I had proof in my hands and so did they.

WTF?!? Another bombshell in this thread.

Jade did suddenly quit performing a few years ago, when she seemed at the top of her game, and I always wondered why...I sure hope she didn't get HIV.

What on the test tipped you off that it might be a fake?

What was her explanation for the supposedly fake test? Did she refuse to take a new test?

The last I heard Jade was directing movies and only doing girl-girl in her rare shoots, and then only for her own videos.

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03-02-2007, 06:41 AM

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03-02-2007, 06:56 AM

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WTF?!? Another bombshell in this thread.

Jade did suddenly quit performing a few years ago, when she seemed at the top of her game, and I always wondered why...I sure hope she didn't get HIV.

What on the test tipped you off that it might be a fake?

What was her explanation for the supposedly fake test? Did she refuse to take a new test?

When I shot Jade, I looked at her test, and then her ID a few moments later but did not catch that the names were not the same. Without giving away the names here in a public forum, I won't get into how it slipped by, but it did and if you saw the names you would see why it did. So the day after the shoot I was filing it away and caught it then and about shit my pants.

First I called Jade to see if it was a mix up or what her story was. She was a big porn star so I figured it would work out. When I asked her about it, she hung up on me. Then would not answer the phone anymore. This went on for a day or two.

I called AIM next. They confirmed she (by the name on her ID) had not testing in a long time. I forget the exact time but it was around 6 or 7 months. No warning was given to any studios at that point and they didn't really seem to care.

I called World Modeling at that point. Jim South was not around that day but the ass on the phone didn't care much. I forget that tools name, not any of Jims kids, but that long hair guy that used to work there. He said he would check it out but didn't really seemed that interested to. I never heard back from them. I didn't press the issue because at this point I got the picture that people didn't care, so I was only concerned about my own health at that point. Fuck everyone else. I'm sure I could have pressed the issue, but for what? They didn't care about me, I'm not going to care about them.

So after the blow off from the model, AIM, and the largest talent agency out there, I chalked it up as a lesson learned in the porno industry about how nobody really gives a fuck about anyone and it's all a show to say they do. I mean, here is a girl working on a bad HIV test and nobody did anything about it. NOBODY!!!! I was sweating bullets for a while until my tests came back clean again, because when I thought back, Jade didn't even glance at mine when I showed it to her. She didn't care either way. I thought that was odd at the time, and then after all the pieces fell into place, I was shitting in my pants until my tests cleared.

So it was a lesson learned. I came out clean, and I stopped working in LA and laugh anytime I read about how much the industry cares or how AIM is trying to help. BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!

I have no clue to Jades HIV status, nor do I care. Maybe she has gone all this time on a bad test, maybe not. Maybe she spread it around LA, maybe not. I don't care. I don't work in LA anymore and have no plans to in the future.

And if anyone wants to call BS on this one, I have the docs to prove it. I will be back in the USA mid April and will gladly show them to anyone who wants to see them.
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03-02-2007, 06:58 AM

Ooops. Double post.
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03-02-2007, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

When I shot Jade, I looked at her test, and then her ID a few moments later but did not catch that the names were not the same. Without giving away the names here in a public forum, I won't get into how it slipped by, but it did and if you saw the names you would see why it did. So the day after the shoot I was filing it away and caught it then and about shit my pants.

First I called Jade to see if it was a mix up or what her story was. She was a big porn star so I figured it would work out. When I asked her about it, she hung up on me. Then would not answer the phone anymore. This went on for a day or two.

I called AIM next. They confirmed she (by the name on her ID) had not testing in a long time. I forget the exact time but it was around 6 or 7 months. No warning was given to any studios at that point and they didn't really seem to care.

I called World Modeling at that point. Jim South was not around that day but the ass on the phone didn't care much. I forget that tools name, not any of Jims kids, but that long hair guy that used to work there. He said he would check it out but didn't really seemed that interested to. I never heard back from them. I didn't press the issue because at this point I got the picture that people didn't care, so I was only concerned about my own health at that point. Fuck everyone else. I'm sure I could have pressed the issue, but for what? They didn't care about me, I'm not going to care about them.

So after the blow off from the model, AIM, and the largest talent agency out there, I chalked it up as a lesson learned in the porno industry about how nobody really gives a fuck about anyone and it's all a show to say they do. I mean, here is a girl working on a bad HIV test and nobody did anything about it. NOBODY!!!! I was sweating bullets for a while until my tests came back clean again, because when I thought back, Jade didn't even glance at mine when I showed it to her. She didn't care either way. I thought that was odd at the time, and then after all the pieces fell into place, I was shitting in my pants until my tests cleared.

So it was a lesson learned. I came out clean, and I stopped working in LA and laugh anytime I read about how much the industry cares or how AIM is trying to help. BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!

I have no clue to Jades HIV status, nor do I care. Maybe she has gone all this time on a bad test, maybe not. Maybe she spread it around LA, maybe not. I don't care. I don't work in LA anymore and have no plans to in the future.

And if anyone wants to call BS on this one, I have the docs to prove it. I will be back in the USA mid April and will gladly show them to anyone who wants to see them.

Wow! That's some scary stuff...I hope now that Jade is a Director, that she takes a little more care about such things.

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03-02-2007, 09:35 AM

I dont think AIM can be relied upon to "police" which performer use a fake test etc.. you got to do your own homework and make sure the names all match, two id's, aim test etc..
I also doubt she is infected with HIV... once someone is reported positive HIV, the word spreads like wildfire..AIM have certain obligations to report to the public authorities and the industry as well.
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03-02-2007, 09:44 AM

the thing that aim does thats good for us who perform in the vids is they test via pcrdna rather than the elisa test... and yes the records are public.. but if you ever test positive for anything even at your own doctor it's released to the cdc...

and I will not comment on what I was raided for.. and yes it was industry related.. it was nothing to do with 2257 were golden there.. it was nothing to do with drugs.. or kimbo... just a girl we shot has more skellatons in her closet than a cemetary.... I'm bout to get 2 ID's and a background check on these fucking whores...

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03-02-2007, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by JP-pornshooter

I also doubt she is infected with HIV... once someone is reported positive HIV, the word spreads like wildfire..AIM have certain obligations to report to the public authorities and the industry as well.

We wouldn't know that if she never got a test now would we?

Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't... I don't care either way, but if she never got a test, the industry would never know. And what makes matters worse is, all the people who were shooting here the same time I was shooting her (I wont name names but I know a few LARGE companies that did), they didn't catch it either, or didn't care. One or the other. Knowing what I know about the industry, I'd bet on didn't care.

Fact is, she herself had not tested in a long time and was still working, every day, for several months at the very least, without a condom.
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03-02-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by JP-pornshooter

I dont think AIM can be relied upon to "police" which performer use a fake test etc.

I also want to add that when a performer is using a bad AIMS test, they should care like they have never cared before. If they don't care, it shows a flaw in the entire system.

Anyway, that was a long time ago. AIM and the LA porn machine can go down in gonorrhea flames as far as I'm concerned. I don't work out there or use AIM. I use REAL hospitals with REAL doctors.
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03-02-2007, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I also want to add that when a performer is using a bad AIMS test, they should care like they have never cared before. If they don't care, it shows a flaw in the entire system.

Anyway, that was a long time ago. AIM and the LA porn machine can go down in gonorrhea flames as far as I'm concerned. I don't work out there or use AIM. I use REAL hospitals with REAL doctors.

Well, I am not agreeing with you 100%. Shooters and performers have many ways to contact AIM to verify if someones test is real. A quick phonecall can make all the difference. I wouldn't shoot if I think a test is fake.

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03-02-2007, 11:38 AM

This is the last place I'd be broadcasting about being "golden" on 2257. Sounds like it wasn't a 2257 inspection at all. Trust me, I led the FBI through Diabolic's successful inspection. They are one of my clients and one of only 2 companies of 10 they've inspected that have NO VIOLATIONS AT THE TIME OF INSPECTION. This is all very public knowledge for anyone who saw Chuck speak at the XBiz conference. I'm at the forfront of the 2257 inspections and speak to Chuck on a pretty regular basis to keep abreast of things. Just saying, better not to brag about 2257 because the facts are 8 out of 10 studios inpspected had violations.
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03-02-2007, 11:49 AM

AIM is still a good company to use... kind of a monopoly but it works...

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03-02-2007, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Sebastian Sands

Well, I am not agreeing with you 100%. Shooters and performers have many ways to contact AIM to verify if someones test is real. A quick phonecall can make all the difference. I wouldn't shoot if I think a test is fake.

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I didn't know it was not her test until AFTER the shoot. Then when she blew me off I called AIM direct. They confirmed the info I had (that it was not hers) and that she, based on her ID, had not tested in a long time. I did NOT shoot her thinking it was a fake test.

At that time AIM, along with her agent, should have put the word out that she was working with a bad / false test. Neither of them did anything.

What is there to agree or disagree with here?
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03-02-2007, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by DirtyDanza

AIM is still a good company to use... kind of a monopoly but it works...

Kind of a monopoly? They totally own the industry when it comes to testing. I give them props for such a power move.

Some models won't even shoot with you unless you use AIM. Of course they are too fucking stupid to realize that a PCR-DNA test is a PCR-DNA test no matter where you get it, but part of that is the brainwashing AIM and the rest of the industry has done to them.

I once flew a model in to work with us. She canceled the shoot when she got there because we did not test at AIM. What we did have was a PCR-DNA test AND a ELISA test that was recent from a real hospital, but that was not good enough because it did not say AIM. Stupid whore. I doubt if 98% of the models who test at AIM even know what "PCR" stands for.
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03-02-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Kind of a monopoly? They totally own the industry when it comes to testing. I give them props for such a power move.

Some models won't even shoot with you unless you use AIM. Of course they are too fucking stupid to realize that a PCR-DNA test is a PCR-DNA test no matter where you get it, but part of that is the brainwashing AIM and the rest of the industry has done to them.

I once flew a model in to work with us. She canceled the shoot when she got there because we did not test at AIM. What we did have was a PCR-DNA test AND a ELISA test that was recent from a real hospital, but that was not good enough because it did not say AIM. Stupid whore. I doubt if 98% of the models who test at AIM even know what "PCR" stands for.

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03-02-2007, 12:45 PM

keep in mind the facts as well.... you can test all you want to... theres still a chance.. and the girls need to realize that.. if they don;t want the risk go flip fucking burgers..... every job has it's risks and whores need to think of that..

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03-02-2007, 01:04 PM

There is a big difference when you use AIM as opposed to your own doctor. At AIM you sign a release that allows AIM to verify your results with any third party. When someone says they have a test from somewhere else i guarantee that you cannot call that place and have them tell you when that person tested and what their results are. You just have a peice of paper without verification.

When you suspected a phony test you were able to verify your suspicion. All AIM is able to do is verify tests. It is not their responsibility to police the "industry' That is the performers, directors and producers RESPONSIBILITY.

wHEN YOU DISCOVERED THE PHONY TEST WHY DIDNT YOU PUT THE WORD

OUT?

AIM exists to assist performers and others in the ADULT industry to live up to THEIR OWN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. AIM is a 501c3 non-profit organization. It is the only ORGANIZATION in the adult biz. Why does everyone always bag on the CHARITY GROUP for not policing the industry.
Why does a multi billion dollar industry need a charity organization to perform the most rudimentary health functions?
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03-02-2007, 01:26 PM

Just an afterthought, why do companies wait until AFTER they do the shoot to verify the tests? Shouldnt that be the FIRST thing any RESPONSIBLE producer/director would do to protect the people on THEIR set? Did the other perfomers insist on checking eachothers tests, and if so, one call to AIM would have stopped this before it happened. Like you said, AIM immedieatly verified that the person hadnt tested.
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03-02-2007, 01:47 PM

Adult Industy Medical Heathcare Foundation. It is where the performers are tested for std's. AIM-MED.org for more info.
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03-02-2007, 01:48 PM

Adult Industry Medical care.

A place where "most" of the adult talent pool goes to get their regular HIV and STD testing done.

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03-02-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by GOOFBALL

Just an afterthought, why do companies wait until AFTER they do the shoot to verify the tests? Shouldnt that be the FIRST thing any RESPONSIBLE producer/director would do to protect the people on THEIR set? Did the other perfomers insist on checking eachothers tests, and if so, one call to AIM would have stopped this before it happened. Like you said, AIM immedieatly verified that the person hadnt tested.

VERY good point, I have seen girls that think they are responsible and show their test etc. But fail to ask for the test of the other actor. And IF they do NONE of them have ever asked to see ID to match the names on the test. When I point it out they act like they "forgot".

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