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Old 11-30-2006, 09:45 AM   #1
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Mods Inside - False Accusation of Child Porn Production

darkjedi accuses the owner of christina-model.com of producing child porn:

https://gfy.com/gfy-hall-of-shame/682183-christina-model-com-owner-busted-cp.html

when even a cursory examination discovers that the owner of christina model is sam parker of pwe:

"In compliance with the Federal Labeling and Record-Keeping Law (also known as 18 U.S.C. 2257), all models located within our domain were 18 years of age or older during the time of photography.

All models proof of age is held by the custodian of records, which is listed below organized by producer.

All content and images are in full compliance with the requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257 and associated regulations."
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Sam Parker
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381 Casa Linda Plaza 114 pmb
Dallas, Texas 75218-3423
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[email protected]

sam parker is based in texas and not associated with webe web or any of their photographers (based in alabama) as can be seen if one actually reads http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=76820

whois for christina-model.com:

Registrant:
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381 CASA LINDA PLZ
DALLAS, TX 75218
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Domain Name: CHRISTINA-MODEL.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
PWE
[email protected]
381 CASA LINDA PLZ
DALLAS, TX 75218
US
Phone: 800-778-9880

and grabbing a webe domain from one in the gfy thread:

Registrant:
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fort lauderdale, fl 33348
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Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: HOPE-MODEL.COM
Created on: 23-DEC-04
Expires on: 23-DEC-06
Last Updated on: 03-DEC-05

Administrative Contact:

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Old 11-30-2006, 09:49 AM   #2
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Old 11-30-2006, 09:50 AM   #3
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Man, it's amazing you'd have the balls to complain about ANY accusation someone has leveled at someone else, after all the shit you threw OUR way, and I never said SHIT to you about.
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But yeah, I'll second PA's recommendation, because you DO have a valid point, despite the glass-house thing.

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darkjedi accuses the owner of christina-model.com of producing child porn:

https://gfy.com/gfy-hall-of-shame/682183-christina-model-com-owner-busted-cp.html

when even a cursory examination discovers that the owner of christina model is sam parker of pwe:

"In compliance with the Federal Labeling and Record-Keeping Law (also known as 18 U.S.C. 2257), all models located within our domain were 18 years of age or older during the time of photography.

All models proof of age is held by the custodian of records, which is listed below organized by producer.

All content and images are in full compliance with the requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257 and associated regulations."
Custodian of Records
Sam Parker
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381 Casa Linda Plaza 114 pmb
Dallas, Texas 75218-3423
U.S.A.

[email protected]

sam parker is based in texas and not associated with webe web or any of their photographers (based in alabama) as can be seen if one actually reads http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=76820

whois for christina-model.com:

Registrant:
PWE
381 CASA LINDA PLZ
DALLAS, TX 75218
US

Domain Name: CHRISTINA-MODEL.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
PWE
[email protected]
381 CASA LINDA PLZ
DALLAS, TX 75218
US
Phone: 800-778-9880

and grabbing a webe domain from one in the gfy thread:

Registrant:
webe web corp
po box 480027
fort lauderdale, fl 33348
US

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: HOPE-MODEL.COM
Created on: 23-DEC-04
Expires on: 23-DEC-06
Last Updated on: 03-DEC-05

Administrative Contact:

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[email protected]
webe web corp
po box 480027
fort lauderdale, fl 33348
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954 567 2922
the whois is a front for the christina-model.com site

they have 277 docs now, but thet started it when she was 16

oh and you are a troll
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:11 AM   #7
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the whois is a front for the christina-model.com site

they have 277 docs now, but thet started it when she was 16

oh and you are a troll
prove it.
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:12 AM   #8
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Simple math:

What is the model's current age?

When did the website open?

Let's say the site has been up for 4 years. Let's say the model is currently 19. You can figure out the rest. Not saying those are the numbers for this situation, but there you go.
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prove it.
how can i prove it, you want me to post ID scans of christina-model.com owner?

LOL
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Simple math:

What is the model's current age?

When did the website open?

Let's say the site has been up for 4 years. Let's say the model is currently 19. You can figure out the rest. Not saying those are the numbers for this situation, but there you go.
i think the fact that the name, location, whois and legal is completely different as well as christina-model's website is still online while the other's are not shows that something is amiss with darkjedi's serious accusations.
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On that basis, either (a) Christina is now, what, 23... or perhaps she is 20 which would put her start age at, hmm....

Anyone want to comment?
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how can i prove it, you want me to post ID scans of christina-model.com owner?

LOL
do you always accuse innocent people of being indicted under child porn laws?

odd hobby.
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:16 AM   #13
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prove it.
They have a robots.txt blocking the Internet Archive, so unless someone thought to take a screenshot of an "About Me" from back in the day with 16 on it (which I doubt), it's probably not possible.

And .. without evidence, the accusation is, of couse ... a bannable offense.
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right well we can close this thread too

what a joke, just cause the url looks alike
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Record created on 22-Aug-2001

On that basis, either (a) Christina is now, what, 23... or perhaps she is 20 which would put her start age at, hmm....

Anyone want to comment?
when christina model started modelling isn't an issue - an issue for a different time perhaps - just bringing up the point that the onwer of that site isn't one of those who were indicted in florida and alabama or cp production.
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budsbabes, I agree that this appears unrelated to the other issue.

It also doesn't change the case that Christina-model may have started this before she was 18, which ain't a good thing. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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They have a robots.txt blocking the Internet Archive, so unless someone thought to take a screenshot of an "About Me" from back in the day with 16 on it (which I doubt), it's probably not possible.

And .. without evidence, the accusation is, of couse ... a bannable offense.
it's been discussed here before

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...2&postcount=33
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when christina model started modelling is a separate issue -

you accused the owner of that website to have been indicted for producing child porn in FL as per the article you posted. address that.
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when christina model started modelling is a separate issue -

you accused the owner of that website to have been indicted for producing child porn in FL as per the article you posted. address that.
I guess you're right.
I shouldn've posted it without complete proof.
I apologise if i was wrong.
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:37 AM   #21
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lol, he's about to get banned.
Wet dreams, you're calling my name.
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i guess you can falsely accuse people of producing child porn around here with no consequences - interesting.
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i guess you can falsely accuse people of producing child porn around here with no consequences - interesting.
History has shown us that isn't the case.

More likely, it either doesn't qualify under the rules for what he SPECIFICALLY did, or the mods haveb't seen it yet.
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didn't her site start out as a NN site before she was 18 and then when she turned 18 they started doing nudies...?
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History has shown us that isn't the case.

More likely, it either doesn't qualify under the rules for what he SPECIFICALLY did, or the mods haveb't seen it yet.
actually heh i hate to disagree with you but history on gfy as far as cp allegations dont correlate with bannings..

A mod has seen it and locked the thread. I assume if they were going to ban him they would have already done so..

The lesson once again is "oh well do what you want here arent many consequences " : its a real shame, while i do understand where darkjedi was coming from , he did wrong , he lied , gfy needs to make hard rules and stand by them. This issues has been broached before and gfy mods claimed there was no wiggle room when it comes to cp allegations.. Now all you have to do is appoligize. they dont even erase the thread, thats pretty classless..
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actually heh i hate to disagree with you but history on gfy as far as cp allegations dont correlate with bannings..
And I hate to disagree with YOU, smokester, but he didn't mention bannings.

He mentioned "consequences."
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i'm sure the owner of christina-model will take it more seriously.

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actually heh i hate to disagree with you but history on gfy as far as cp allegations dont correlate with bannings..

A mod has seen it and locked the thread. I assume if they were going to ban him they would have already done so..

The lesson once again is "oh well do what you want here arent many consequences " : its a real shame, while i do understand where darkjedi was coming from , he did wrong , he lied , gfy needs to make hard rules and stand by them. This issues has been broached before and gfy mods claimed there was no wiggle room when it comes to cp allegations.. Now all you have to do is appoligize. they dont even erase the thread, thats pretty classless..
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i guess you can falsely accuse people of producing child porn around here with no consequences - interesting.
Only if you bring in page views.
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stop whining girls, i apologized.
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actually heh i hate to disagree with you but history on gfy as far as cp allegations dont correlate with bannings..

A mod has seen it and locked the thread. I assume if they were going to ban him they would have already done so..

The lesson once again is "oh well do what you want here arent many consequences " : its a real shame, while i do understand where darkjedi was coming from , he did wrong , he lied , gfy needs to make hard rules and stand by them. This issues has been broached before and gfy mods claimed there was no wiggle room when it comes to cp allegations.. Now all you have to do is appoligize. they dont even erase the thread, thats pretty classless..
It all depends on who you accuse.

You guys do realize that girls who own websites lie about their age. I once worked with a girl who was 23 for like 5 years, Finally when she really turned 30 she bumped her age on her site to 24. If a girl has been online for 4 years and still claiming to be 18 on her site it is very likely she is still trying to tap into the teen market and isn't ready to move on to the 20 something crowd. I don't know the details of this situation, but this is just a little fyi in general.
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i'm sure the owner of christina-model will take it more seriously.
Why are you supporting the owner of that site, who most people with a brain, feel has been "pimpin" that girl in sexy clothes and poses etc. on the net long before she turned 18?
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Thread has been moved to a safe place where no one can see it. We save these threads in case of legal action and someone needs the thread as a reference. DarkJedi was told to apologize, based on the fact that his information was incorrect. The thread was left in the main forum for him to be able to see this. He has apologized end of story.
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Why are you supporting the owner of that site, who most people with a brain, feel has been "pimpin" that girl in sexy clothes and poses etc. on the net long before she turned 18?
i'm not "supporting" anyone - and of course i'm against cp - i don't know the history of christina-model aside from i just looked at her site and found she has her 2257 docs -

don't change the subject -

the issue is that darkjedi accused a guy of being convicted of cp who obviously wasn't -
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i'm not "supporting" anyone - and of course i'm against cp - i don't know the history of christina-model aside from i just looked at her site and found she has her 2257 docs
i have nothing against the owner of the site but why block archives.org from indexing the site then, unless he didn't want anyone to see the "risky" content that was posted in the past on that site, not that he was posting nudes of her at that age but the site was still filled with provocative poses of her before she was 18.

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Thread has been moved to a safe place where no one can see it. We save these threads in case of legal action and someone needs the thread as a reference. DarkJedi was told to apologize, based on the fact that his information was incorrect. The thread was left in the main forum for him to be able to see this. He has apologized end of story.
as long as the se's cant get to it , i understand the position your in just wanted to make sure it is locked away tight , its always sad to see these things hit the se's without proper explanation
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Thread has been moved to a safe place where no one can see it. We save these threads in case of legal action and someone needs the thread as a reference. DarkJedi was told to apologize, based on the fact that his information was incorrect. The thread was left in the main forum for him to be able to see this. He has apologized end of story.
did he apologise to the owners of chirstina model or to the crowds of gfy??
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did he apologise to the owners of chirstina model or to the crowds of gfy??
gfy only offcourse - did you really think he had some kinda integrity ?
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