No alchemist, Proactol? is brand new, completely unique and fully patented.

yes sir and yes it does !! :thumbsup

looks good man

Bump for thoughts and feedback :thumbsup

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oh yeah . . . I am really struggling :1orglaugh and to be honest, I would not know if you were growing or not as I stopped paying attention after your escapade with us several years ago.

Why don't you address the question? You don't think you were misleading people in that thread?

So you are going to rip off people with those crap pills, I prefer to sell porn at least it's an honest trade. I never understand why so many people (even on these boards) are worried about earning money with porn. Porn is dirty porn is tasteless blah blah but you don't rip off people and you don't harm their health or make false promisses that they will benefit from your product or anything. (I don't sell those get a long cock pills) With those pills you will.

GFX3,

Unlike Chitosan, Hoodia etc, Proactol is clinically proven to work.

Thats the beauty of it and why affiliates will make serious cash - its sets its self apart from the rest.

Proactol is the only natural weight loss product approved by the MHRA - the UK government body that makes sure that medical products:

a. Do what they claim to do
b. Are safe

But i spose, of course, you would know better - etc etc, blah blah ...

Well yes, if it would be such an amazing product it would be distributed by pharmacies all over the world. If your product would be such a great unique way to lose weight you would hire 200 reps to visit every single doctor in the UK and convince them about how wonderful your product is. But no you offer these rediculous high commissions to affiliates to promote these pills.

It's pretty obvious how you tried to hype up this thread, that is why I posted. I also saw you in action on other forums and you certainly know how to create a buzz but I think there is nothing behind the buzz you create.

You didn't start this thread with talking about your product, you started by talking about the huge market potential and the billions of dollars that are going on in this niche. Only 15 posts later after you created the hype you mention your pills. This only indicates to me how weak your product is and how much you needed to create a hype first. You see I know my marketing and I see proactol ripoff proactol scam big time.

You are getting ready to steal money from fat and overweight people with your crappy proactol pills :disgust

Stop hating. Like selling porn to losers is a better way to make a living :1orglaugh

50 :]

You can judge the quality of your life by how often you notice the enjoyment of the little things.

It is being distributed round the world. MoreNiche have exclusive ONLINE rights to this, not off line - look these complicated terms up.

Hmmm...nothing behind the buzz we create? Tell that to our affiiliates we have been paying millions to every year for the last 4 years. :1orglaugh

Bedsides, Proactol is clinically proven to do what it says it does.

8 trials in total, and approved by the MHRA - like i tried to explain before.

Try and read that site if you can gfx3, theres not that many pictures for you, but you can try your best :thumbsup

I myself am very excited about promoting this product :thumbsup

Diversifying is the key to success :winkwink:

There is a big difference, people who buy porn know what they will get, they will see naked women in image or videos format. They get what they paid for, it's a fair business transaction between you and the customer. A very large amount of the customers are satisfied otherwise with their purchase otherwise there wouldn't be tons of rebills in this industry.

I have been working as a mainstream entrepreneur for about 10 years before I looked into porn and I must say that compared to what goes on in many mainstream companies the porn industry is a pretty honest and decent industry :2 cents: Sure it's different and there are nasty spammers and scammers and most people in adult never heard about courtesy but that is peanuts compared to what goes on in a rather large percentage of mainstream companies.

Do you like to get ripped off Fortecash? No you don't and nobody does so that is why I left a little feedback. I know you probably won't share my vision since you sell cock pills and you have no problem making money from selling an illusion but that is up to you.

I sell penis enlargement exercise technqiues which I gained size from before I ever sold them :2 cents:

You can argue porn degrades women who the majority come from broken and abusive homes :2 cents:

Get off your high horse, I'm going to use this weight loss product and use my testimonial in my marketing of it!

Way to go MN :thumbsup

Yes google told me how trustworthy it must be, not a single scientific article but I found a nice review on www.nudesblog.com damn I was so wrong to think I wasn't dealing with a high quality medical product that would change the weight loss problem.
You know all those fantastic pills and wonder potions that are promoted on the home shopping channel also have a full medical staff backing it up. Bashing some herbs into a pill and filing a patent isn't very special. Doing those 8 trials just requires money and as long as the pills don't harm people or contain illegal substances in them you are pretty safe to get it on the market. Google gives me a spectacular ratio of 12 hits so you have a lot of spamming to do. If your pill was already being distributed around the globe like you say it was it would give me plenty more results.

I also noticed you try to talk to me in a condescending way, this also shows how professional you are when trying to back up your product and again tells a lot about the product in question.

gfx3,

You are a hypocrite. You throw accusations around of "scamming" and "stealing" and then call me unprofessional for not talking to you with the respect you think you deserve.

Im sure in your own mind you are a shining angel of light, knowledge and righteousness - in other words, what normal people call - an annoying "know it all".

You have made some pretty damning accusations - can you back them up ? We can back up the claims of Proactol - and will do with the release of the clinical trial data to affiliates. We are a responsible affiliate program and we can back up our claims 100%.

I know you've done it all and know everything, but try and listen for 1 second - clinical trials are not just about safety - They are about effectiveness.

MHRA - "We enhance and safeguard the health of the public by ensuring that medicines and medical devices work and are acceptably safe"

MHRA is a UK GOVERNMENT agency - dont tell me, you're also a government agent & they're in on it too!! Lol

Stop hiding behind your nick - have the balls to make your accusations in your real name - lets see what you really know and are willing to stand by.

Everything you have said is complete "know it all" rubbish

Proactol is not a herbal pill

Proactol's offline offering goes under a different name. Same product, different branding for on-line. As for the hits, lol, Proactol site has not even launched yet - this is called a "build up" for marketers - Come on lightening!. :1orglaugh

But please continue to bump and show what a knowledgeable expert on all things you are! :thumbsup

Seriously http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache...ct=cl nk&cd=4 who wrote that? You did or your employees did.

Our 100% herbal pill is composed of natural ingredients without additives or fillers. All our ingredients have been reviewed by medical herbalist G. Alexander M.I.H.

Ok now about the scamming and stealing, let me clarify this to you. I am not saying your or your company are scammers or thieves. I am not suggesting you shave or rip off your affiliates or anything like that.
What I do say is that by selling these type of pills you scam and steal from their purchasers by selling them nothing more than an illusion. Those pills aren't a way to treat obesity, neither are they a cure for obesity and you know it. In a best case scenario a person will lose a few pounds and gain them back as soon as he stops taking those pills. The same effect you would experience from drinking 1.99$ tea bags. I don't even mention the possible long term negative effects that taking these pills could have but your clinical trials don't show those right?

Proactol's offline offerings goes under a different name? What possible benefit could any type of medication gain from such an approach? This goes into every single rule of branding. "Hey you know Viagra, well you can order it online but on the internet it's called Cockbooster!"
I don't have the time to start digging into this or looking at the patents and trademarks you filed, the entire thing is so obvious I don't even need to do that.

Point is that you developed a cheap herbal pill and want to take massive profit from something that probably will have the same effect or less as a 2$ diet tea and you know it. So you will steal and rip off your buyers by selling them nothing more than air and illusions.

Everything you wrote in this thread all points in the same direction, sorry but they way you defend yourself just doesn't stick to me, it's not a herbal pill while you or your staff writes it's 100% herbal? It doesn't have the same name offline as it does online?

Just took another peek at the article:

Past clients have commented that the Proactol™ system helps towards:
Weight reduction - imagine a better shaped body thats more attractive?
More energy - imagine WANTING to do more and actually being able to?
Sparkling confidence - Before any one can love you you must love yourself.
More muscles - Remarkable muscle building exercise routines!

Damn it's a true wonderpill isn't it? Is this like take 5 a day and you will be doing backflips even at the age of 60?

Ok enough about it you won't convince me, I will keep an eye on it and if you make the first page of science international in a positive way I will apologize, if you don't I won't.


Here is the full article:



Proactol - Proactol weight loss
posted 11/28/2006
The Proactol™ System is a Doctor endorsed and Herbalist endorsed weight loss product.

The Proactol™ system is designed to help you quickly and safely lose weight. The herbal part of the system includes a well known herb called Hoodia Gordonii.

The confidence you can gain from a great, sexy appearance flows through every part of your life.

Combined with a regular exercise program, our doctor and herbalist endorsed system will help you reach your weight loss goals.


Past clients have commented that the Proactol™ system helps towards:
Weight reduction - imagine a better shaped body thats more attractive?
More energy - imagine WANTING to do more and actually being able to?
Sparkling confidence - Before any one can love you you must love yourself.
More muscles - Remarkable muscle building exercise routines!

The Proactol members area consists of tips and tricks, articles and content to help you along your path to loosing weight.


Our 100% herbal pill is composed of natural ingredients without additives or fillers. All our ingredients have been reviewed by medical herbalist G. Alexander M.I.H.
The Proactol™ herbal supplement uses the all-natural ingredient Hoodia Gordonii, along with other ingredients. Part of the cactus family, Hoodia can be found in the dry regions of southwest Africa. It has been suggested thet bushmen use this plant to stave off hunger during long hunts! Three of our most talked about ingredients are shown below:

Hoodia Gordonii:
The level of sugar in your blood goes up when you eat, when a certain level is reached, your synapses in your brain send signals to you that you are full. Hoodia is a lot more active than glucose. It travels to the mid-brain and makes your nerve cells signal that you are full even if you haven't actually eaten. Nor will you want to. BBC comments.

Chitosan:
Chitosan, derived from shellfish, to bind to the fat and cholestrol in your food before your body has a chance to absorb it. Chitosan itself cannot be digested, and the body simply eliminates the Chitosan and the fat mass attached to it.

White Kidney Bean:
The component Phaseolus Vulgaris, derived from the white kidney bean, has been proven to reduce the absorption of calories from a starch source. Many studies have shown that White Kidney Bean interrupts the digestive process that converts starch to sugar. More information about these and the other ingredients you find here.

The Proactol™ product includes a money back guarantee and endorsements from Doctors and an Herbalist.
Natural ingredients - we make sure that our product does not contain any additives or fillers like some other diet pills.
Herbalist and doctor endorsed - Buy with confidence, our formula as been reviewed by two doctors and a UK herbalist. More details here.
Free PSrx - fitness program, which provides you with videos, low fat recipes and much more.
Get started now and become another slimmer Proactol™ system customer.

Yet again your superhuman powers of deduction are amazing. :thumbsup

We are an affiliate porgram gfx3, this means people who run websites or control net traffic promote our offerings. They can do this in many ways

This is keen affiliate, submitting articles about proactol before they know the details - the info is about a hoodia based product, when they get their links and content they will change out the info - comprende?

I do like keen affiliates though!

Me too, the smart guys are filling up the SERPs already

Oh, and I have an apology to make...Proactol will not be paying up to $150 per sale any more.....










check it out http://www.moreniche.com/proactol.html