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11-24-2006, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by ForteCash

I recently got a 6.75% 30 year fixed rate with 20% down.. not too bad.

3yrs ago, we got 20 yr fixed rate for 2.1% with 35% down - you in Europe?
It's currently floating around 3.2 in France at teh moment

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11-24-2006, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by borked

3yrs ago, we got 20 yr fixed rate for 2.1% with 35% down - you in Europe?
It's currently floating around 3.2 in France at teh moment

No, i'm in the USA..

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11-24-2006, 12:39 PM

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11-24-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by borked

Will oil ever start trading in Euro? If it does, and the Euro becomes stronger, then Opec will decide to switch trading to Euro.

On THAT day, the USA will become a crippled monkey.

You know after the first Iraw war, Saddam Hussein traded all Iraqi oil in Euro, refusing to trade in $. Ignoring the fact that that hurt the US quite a bit, but it made for an emergency Opec meeting in Spain ('93 or '94 I think), but it was decided to stay on the $.

Why doesn't the UK join teh Euro? Fuck what Gordan Brown bullshits about the 5 points or whatever it is - if the UK joins the Euro, then it will be under strong pressure to trade North Sea Oil in Euro, thus tipping the balance a little bit more to global Euro Oil.

I personally believe Iraq was about oil, but not control over the oil fields, but their trading currency.

Oh look, Iraqi oil switched back to trading in $ last August....

Um, the euro is only a few years old. There was no euro back in 93 or 94. 01-02 would be a bit more accurate.

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11-24-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by borked

Ehm, 'scuse me, but how about the fact that you can get a mortgage with a PROPER fixed rate mortgage (meaning the ENTIRE life of the mortgage, not some crappy 5 years), at a rate of *cough* 2.1%

Yeah, no benefit for the having the Euro, long live Bank of England interest rates

This has nothing to do with the euro, I live in Europe and those cheap mortage rates have always been like that. They are so cheap because if you stop paying back the loan the bank takes the house and put it up for sale so there is no risk for them to lose the money they loaned.

I know that Americans prefer new homes but in Europe the age of a property makes no difference at all, so a property doesn't lose any value. That is why banks can offer these cheap loans.

I know you can buy building plots in California where you pay 1$ for a square metre while in Europe you pay 150$ per square metre so this is also something you need to take into your calculations when comparing mortgage rates between Europe and the US.

As for property I did some digging where you could get the best value for your money and when you compare Europe and the States the US is the best place to settle and get the most for your money.
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#66

11-24-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by ForteCash

Franck, you just need to diversify your investments so that some of them move with International currency movements etc..

I actually make money when the dollar gets hammered.

Interesting to hear how you do that trick.
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#67

11-24-2006, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

I will increas to an almost 1 to 1 in the next 8 months.

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#68

11-24-2006, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by thinkx

youve got a savings acc for sure too, well leave it there till the $ is worth more and then cash in, itll save you tons

I don't think you get the current state of the world's economy...

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I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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11-24-2006, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by borked

Will oil ever start trading in Euro? If it does, and the Euro becomes stronger, then Opec will decide to switch trading to Euro.

On THAT day, the USA will become a crippled monkey.

You know after the first Iraw war, Saddam Hussein traded all Iraqi oil in Euro, refusing to trade in $. Ignoring the fact that that hurt the US quite a bit, but it made for an emergency Opec meeting in Spain ('93 or '94 I think), but it was decided to stay on the $.

Why doesn't the UK join teh Euro? Fuck what Gordan Brown bullshits about the 5 points or whatever it is - if the UK joins the Euro, then it will be under strong pressure to trade North Sea Oil in Euro, thus tipping the balance a little bit more to global Euro Oil.

I personally believe Iraq was about oil, but not control over the oil fields, but their trading currency.

Oh look, Iraqi oil switched back to trading in $ last August....

Why do you think we really went into Iraq? Saddam was trying to sell oil in Euro's.. What do you think keeps the US dollar the defacto world currency? It's because oil can only be sold in US dollars.

Iran was looking to do the same thing, trade oil in euros.

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11-24-2006, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

people keep thinking the US dollar will come back - think about it.

europe has a MUCH higher standard of education - a MUCH MUCH higher educated population and a higher average median income. The average european has soo much more education than the average american it's sick.

Ask an average american if they have traveled - they talk about travel WITHIN the USA - ask an average europen if they have traveled and they dont' even consider it travel if it's within their own country.

not to mention europe has MORE PEOPLE - a LOT more

the US dollar ISN'T comming back - the EURO will get stronger and stronger.

the only thing that in the next 20 years will rise is the chinnese dollar and other large 3rd world country currencies. The US dollar will stay where it is in relation to the euro or get worse - it isn't getting any better LONG term.

America is definitly in troubled times right now.

Originally posted by rayadp05

I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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#71

11-24-2006, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Madrox

lolololol 1 reason im glad im an american, why? because when i get my $300 check, and cash it, its still $300 to me :D

i guess its americas way of saying "hey fuckwits, you say you hate us and all that crap, then good luck having a lower value of our money, hahaha!"

Oh yeah. But you're whole country is buying EVERYTHING you use oversea... You have less buying power with a less dollar so in the end, the "fuckwits" ends up beeing you paying an higher price for what you need.

And you are slowly selling your country's assets peice by peice to support your big war lifestyle ;)

Originally posted by rayadp05

I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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11-24-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Dre

Oh yeah. But you're whole country is buying EVERYTHING you use oversea... You have less buying power with a less dollar so in the end, the "fuckwits" ends up beeing you paying an higher price for what you need.

And you are slowly selling your country's assets peice by peice to support your big war lifestyle ;)

True but even with their war going on etc... America is still a very powerfull nation, the most powerfull one to be exact. Ending the war with Iraq would be a very good start to rebuild the dollar strength, I remember when the Euro launched to dollar had the bigger value, things can change again, even faster than you could imagine. America gets things done in comparison to most Europeans who just sit around and are having useless discussions.
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11-24-2006, 09:34 PM

And everyone thought the Democrats victory in Congress would make things better
Europeans should get paid in Euro

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11-24-2006, 09:36 PM

PayServe bills in Euro! Americans! Make more money!
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11-24-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by crockett

Why do you think we really went into Iraq? Saddam was trying to sell oil in Euro's.. What do you think keeps the US dollar the defacto world currency? It's because oil can only be sold in US dollars.

Iran was looking to do the same thing, trade oil in euros.

That was my point

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