yep, you and roy garcia :2 cents:

Hit me on ICQ or email. I can get girls that aren't all over the internet already. Not that there is anything wrong with those girls but sounds like you're looking for something with a twist.

Roy cant even touch my dust. Hes come and gone.

what Paul said...


edit: and it was a bulk price, usually we charge more

so why do you feel that your content is worth more than american content? you're already operating at a hight net profit without even charging more . . I'd be interested in reading why.

paul is totally wrong about the American shooting theater, and just about everything else he said about shooting content in this area . .

That is way too much

what is "american" content? does that define a certain level of quality? you have to admit that this is a bullshit statement. or do you want to throw Sobe and Dean Capture for example in the same basket? and just fyi: we have electricity, cameras, lights, computers too and as far as i know the anatomy of the girls is also the same.

and how do you know my profit? makes me wonder...

besides that: this is an open market - if people think my stuff is not worth it they don't buy it. simple as that. some people seem to think it's wort it though

if you can shoot a b/g scene for $1000 - congrats to you. I can't. or better: i don't want to.

and why? because i have my shop.

the rest about that Paul has said already enough times before

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Sorry got you disappointed, but things are like that.
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Sorry Mac, i have to disagree. I shoot out there many times and i get top quality girls for anal for $700. and non anal for $600.
And you know as well as I do what we mean is AMerican English speaking girls convert WAY WAY better than overseas girls. Its a shame as American girls for the most are spoiled premaddonnas.

who's Mac?

ok - let's say $600 - you're thinking POV, right? well, i do have to pay a guy cause i don't do that job for my personal sexual pleasures - so add $200 or $250. agency? location? cameras? makeup? food, drinks, tapes etc? so how i can sell a scene for $1000 - someone's gotta enlighten me...

and: i'm ok for reality type sites that english speaking girls convert better for english speaking audience. but there are more countries and languages out there and gonzo stuff doesn't necessarily contain much conversation

but - you can argue as much as you want. we just rented a new office and 2 apartments besides our existing studio. and grew from 2 to 7 people - looking for 2 more. something i must be doing terribly wrong :upsidedow

!st of all let me say I think your stuff is great. Anyone reading this, this is not a hate thread. Anyone buying from him will get quality stuff.

BUT. im not talking POV. I get guys over there for $300-$400 so im sure you get them same. I pay a $100 agency fee..WHEN i use agency. Are you saying you cant get girls on your own by now,,PLESe man.

And gimme break. with tapes and drinks bit as whats that $10 bux US

And we just talkin what it costs to shoot a scene. I can shoot a hardcore scene with all the bells and whistles for $1100 out there. SO if you cant yes you must be something wrong.

Once again for all you hate lovers.. this is just a discussion

American content, is people that look like they live in america, and because anyone can, that means people that look like a stereo typical american.

There is a reason for wanting american over looks europeon, if you consider maybe the domain (see sig) might have something to do with american....



I love you stuff :)



A partner I had backed out, and with that and the higher then estimated cost for content I dont think I will be able to do this anymore.
Unless someone reading this thread wants to make an investment.

no hate at all - just clarifying: do we talk about shooting a scene for 1000 or selling it? i was talking about selling. and i assume you don't sell your stuff for the same price the production costs either

somewhere there has to be profit - otherwise i could close my business

but nice to see that you can confirm that we work more or less at the same costs - just to answer Wantons question about "american" prices

oh - and one more point: all people over here get paid in Euro - most of my customers pay in USD. so i lost about 20% over the last 3 years just because of that

. . the guy said he would take POV :) and yes you can shoot a 'simple' scene for 1100 on a good day however start adding all the stills sets, and solo vid that some clients demand with every order and the 1100 goes 'way the fuck' out the window . .
and joe you and I go back a long way and there is no 'hate' between us at all . . we talk hard sometimes online however I have never taken any offense, because I would call you if I ever had issues with you, just like you would call me, and we would talk it out 'cause that's what men do . . right? :)

I never for one moment, even considered that you would be able to get that much cash up :thumbsup

Joe at AMA IS the king of POV! :)

Brad

Wife wouldnt let me take out a mortgage for it either, lol.

I had almost 60k between 2 other partners.
I really do think its a great idea and would make the money back fast, its just clear that I dont have the means to make it work, at this time at least.

no hate at all - just clarifying: do we talk about shooting a scene for 1000 or selling it? i was talking about selling. and i assume you don't sell your stuff for the same price the production costs either

**** there are guys claiming they can sell HC bg for a grand however I don't think they can constantly deliver quality product with reputable docs . . putting up a website and telling the world you're a content shooter is lots different than dealing with content production and sales and a day to day basis for 7 years

somewhere there has to be profit - otherwise i could close my business

**** very true . . your cost are lower than mine I would imagine however I have no idea what a gallon of milk is in yer area or how much rent is, or the median income . . my cost are sky high in every aspect of living and shooting in LA. my production cost have gone up about 200% in the last 3 years

but nice to see that you can confirm that we work more or less at the same costs - just to answer Wantons question about "american" prices

oh - and one more point: all people over here get paid in Euro - most of my customers pay in USD. so i lost about 20% over the last 3 years just because of that

**** yes I remember when all you guys started crying about that :1orglaugh

that's a real problem with 'biz in the real world'. start up cost and cash flow . . extremely difficult to over come

even kmart went broke and magic mountain is up for sale . . cause 6 flags has cash flow probs

Very possible.

I'd wonder who that dude would be????

with this being said how the hell would you have done 104 hc sets for 100k? :1orglaugh

because the dudes in europe he has to keep within a particular profit margin and cant charge what he likes?

commusism left yrs ago....

:1orglaugh

knowing who I am and what I do would explain how I can do exactly what I say I can do.

more than likely once you entered 'serious professional' negotiations with me the 'ballpark' figure would prolly change . .

you might have changed your order somewhat to a more realistic concept after speaking with a professional content shooter . . sorta like when you go down to buy furniture for your house with a budget . . you go with one idea and then find out what the truth is . . and change what you really get

so keep up with the ':1orglaugh' when you're trying to deal with the top pro's in the field . . I'm sure this is a real good method of moving forward :2 cents:

next time you get a 'brilliant' idea I'm sure all the pro's are really gonna line up to hear yer grand schemes -bmb

yes, I'm sure you guys are both in for a lotta laughs . . well anyway have fun . . gotta get back to work -bmb

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POV or not .. you still need a male preformer for the video to be shake free and not always aiming in the wrong direction .. with this said .your defentily looking at 130 K for a mix of BJ, straight sex and some anal scenes thrown in there.
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don't know when the last time you have been here but since the last summer the USD is down like 21.66 CZK
just my :2 cents:
Also I am afraid you are not able to produce the hardcore scene for 1100 USD here - not if you use good looking girls , good male talents , proffesional styling and good locatin

In most cases hardcore scenes can't be done for $1000, especially if the company making it wants profit. In this case however Jeffrey wanted every girl to do two scenes and only one guy for all 104 vids.

I'm not sure about you guys, but I have access to a lot of girls who would be very happy to do two hardcore scenes in a day for $700 - $1000 and the guy wouldn't cost more then $150 - $200. This way a scene could be done for $800 - $900 with good girls. :2 cents:

i didnt intend my posts as a pissing match brian but youve seem to have gone there, so ill go there and ill play.

my only question was - how are you doing 104 HC scenes for 100k being based in LA?

You quoted that price, not me - you try to school me but fail miserably with a furinutre buying analogy - "you go with one idea and then find out what the truth is . . and change what you really get"

wtf is that? backpeddeling, busllshit, bait and switch or used car salesman spin?

then again, maybe you can do 104 hc scenes for 100k in LA because in your words youre wanton and

"knowing who I am and what I do would explain how I can do exactly what I say I can do."

your condencending ego is a joke - you come off like a jackass. you contradicted yourself, youre not observant, youre reading comprehension is for shit and youre full of shit.

2nd - what makes you think I buy content in the fisrt place? - I shoot like you do.

3rd - how did you come up with that im giving anyone advice or creating schemes?


this doesnt mean i dont respect your work or talent - i do.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I shot anal scenes for $1100, last year , very hot girls. Just have to know who works behind agents backs.
And who gives a fuck how pretty location is as long hot girl has cock in her ass

good luck in your search! :)

true is that you shoot a different style so you don't give a fuck about location much but not me.
Anyway I don't say its not possible - sometimes you catch the girl willing to work for anything as she needs to buy new shoes the same afternoon but the most of the cases 1100 is not enought - not for the results I produce.
Planning to come back the next year I am sure you liked the prague right?