Power.. No one should fool themselves, it's all about power. The politicians play to the disgruntled in Quebec and the feelings of being wronged in the past, that they're misunderstood etc. by the rest of Canada but at the end of the day it all comes down to the politicians wanting power and they'll mislead the people to get it.

Doesnt matter where you make a shit pile, it's still shit :2 cents:

nobody will care what they call themselves but quebecers.

As far as im concerned if you like canada foremost your canadian , if you dont you should leave. Its one thing to have pride for your region , its another to be a retard about it..

Quebecers have been babysat worse than the indians , enough is enough they need to quit wasting their time over "wording". They arent distinct in any way from other canadians other than how constantly they bitch..

I used to live in Bellingham Washington right on the Canadian border. I used to watch Canadian TV all the time. i remember when the issue was voted on about 15 years ago. I didn't understand the arguments then. From what i recall, i was at one point trying to understand and all i really remember was general BS like "we speak french, we're different... we're unique" type crap. I don't remember any serious arguments that justified breaking apart a country.... it all just seemed really arrogant and misguided... but i'm just a dumb Merikan' myself, so what do i know.

funny, I'm French and from Quebec. I still live there. Should I still go fuck myself?




And to those who are out there celebrating that we are now a Nation... lol... seriously, get a clue... It doesn't change shit. They just said it to shut up some whiny bastards.

Most seperatists I know bitch and whine about their culture being oppressed, but the ironic thing of it all is that I believe they just dont want to learn English and are trying to find a reason for getting out of having to learn it.

sounds to me like typical political double speak:winkwink:

Honestly all the bitching an whining really makes hard to be proud of my own Franco Canadian roots. The unreasonable Quebecers act like they are the only french speaking people in Canada. How about half of Ontario, or New Brunswick where they are way more french IMO. The only difference is they don't bitch about being special, they just are, and embrace it. :2 cents:

Please chew your poutine first i am having trouble understanding you. Or is it you just have an accent that sounds like your mouth is full of food?

Ello, Ello, Oui Oui, Ello.

There is an "H" in the english language i think they need to have an entire course in French schools on how to say "Huh" it's "Hello" not "Ello", try it with me "HELLO"... one more time, "ELLO", no IT IS HELLO NOT FUCKING ELLO!

can't you ask the americans to bomb Quebec, so I don't have to hear the same shit every 5 years

exactly my thoughts

canada's a country now?

Well that is the most ignorant thing that I have ever heard.

Really? Read the whole thread. :1orglaugh

It always amazes me how people are so quick to jump on the opportunity to display their utter ignorance, it makes me chuckle.

Heh.. Ya Stephen Harper is kissing Quebec's ass so MAYBE he has a leg to stand on come next election. He's spent so much time with his nose up Bush's ass, and making decisions and attempting to be secretive, English-speaking Canadians are sick of him, so might as well go for the Quebecois eh? They seem to be willing to follow anyone who pats their back and makes them feel special, Harper knows that.


DOH wrong acct... should have posted as LadyM lol

Ok that's better. It would be so much better if the Quebecois that push so hard for seperation would fight as hard for forging one strong nation. A lot less time and money would get wasted trying to soothe ruffled feathers.

I think you're missing the point.. he's pointing out the SHEER RIDICULOUSNESS of that concept. Quebec has always been a nation in their own mind, they have a strong culture, none of that is a bad thing, and all supported by the rest of the country on many levels. When they are stomping their heels like a spoiled child demanding things simply because they have a pressing need to feel special that it gets on people's nerves. I love Quebec, I love french people, I just don't love the fact that Quebec always seems to care more about it's own agenda than the country as a whole (the country that pours money into the province of Quebec like water, some provinces give more to Quebec than they take themselves). It's almost like reverse-racism... black people who feel that ALL white people are terrible because a few of them hate blacks. Does that make it any better?

I'm glad Stephen Harper acknowledged the French as a nation, so when are the French going to acknowledge Canada as a nation too? :)

Most ignorant reply of this thread, keep up the good work!

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keep your IMO and :2 cents: ... it makes you look stupid ...

How about coming up with figures...

Maybe 200 years ago that was true, but the french " were assimilated " in those provinces ... Louis Riel ... rings a bell in your empty cabvity ????

How is ignorant to find it ridiculous if Quebec wanted to be a seperate country yet use our currency? You do know what's involved in actually having your currency worth value on a global scale, right?

Tell me how things have been different then, enlighten me if I'm so ignorant about Quebec's behavior over the last... oh 30 years? How many times has it almost torn the entire country apart because Quebec had such a desperate need to be more important? This country does a pretty damn good job at acknowledging and supporting other cultures and belief systems, sometimes to the point where it precludes our own. How is it that my statements are ignorant? How HONESTLY has Quebec been so hard done by?

Really??? I missed that news !! :thumbsup :thumbsup

The fact that these kinds of debates happen is unbelievable. Nations are made up things. They're linguistic constructions, well-pointed out by the subtle differences in meaning between the two languages. Quebec is not a thing, and neither is the United States, or Latvia. They've all been given a linguistic label for the purposes of self-important identification and "land ownership", and serve only as a reference. Over thousands of years, society and culture have evolved as they have, with the arbitrary straight line borders we've drawn and now agree upon. Now, we have so little better to do than squabble over what lines mean what, and to which collectives we belong. It's like people who commit suicide because they're in financial ruin. Imagine, to do such a thing over something made up, that "exists" in only as long as everyone else keeps up the joke. And to what end? Organized greed and opposition, always at odds with each other because the abstractions we cling to are necessarily irresolvable.

As somebody who recently moved to canada I don't see how rational people could live in a bilingual society. Having all products and ads in both languages has to be the stupidest idea ever. To top it off the french that is spoken sounds like shit to real frenchies so the bilingual part is not really useful externally.

Call it a nation, make English the only official language and make French (if you can call it that) optional in school.

Bingo!! I as a Canadian am so sick and tired of hearing about Quebec...and them always whining about how friggen special they are. They are no more special that me, or any other person in Canada...they need to get over this crap. As for the Prime Minister saying that...they should kick him out of office for being such a friggen idiot. If they don't like it here in Canada, get the hell out, but they aren't taking the province with them...that soil is CANADIAN soil and belongs as much to me as it does to them. I can't wait for the day that Canada gets a Prime Minister in office that has enough balls to put Quebec in its place.

Read the news article I posted, Steven Harper actually went about it in a fairly smart way. ;)

Basically, Harper is just telling them something they think they want to hear, so maybe they'll shut the fuck up a bit.

It might be better if Canada just cut Quebec off totally, then went in after a few years to shoot the few starving survivors in the head. Stupid, cowardly, traitorous Frenchies.

French people and those who have the French mindset - a mistake, a cockroach on a dingleberry on the ass of humanity.

Can we just get about dividing Quebec up now? I'm really tired of hearing the spoiled child of the federation whine.

Send all the Quebecois to live in the Banlieus (sp) of Paris to fight it out with the jihadis who currently live there. Whoever wins gets a cookie.

all I know is it's damn cold today in Quebec...those french people made it way too cold here today

Thanks for the link, I read it...but I still can't really agree. We really do have to stop all this haggling and crap with Quebec, and we as a nation have to give tough love to Quebec. Quebec has become a nation of spoiled children and it is up to us as parents to say "shut up and behave" and if they don't...make them.

What about MY rights as a Canadian? My children are forced to learn French in school whether we as parents want them to or not. We spend billions making everything bilingual. Things like that have come at a great expense to everyone in Canada..and I'm so tired of it. We need to work on CANADA being the best that it can be, focus our attention on the needs of the entire country, not listen to endless rants about the insecure French stomping their feet, crying like babies and not giving a damn about anyone but themselves. It is bad enough I have to hear it....even worse that my hard earned dollars goes to pay for it.

So are you Canadians happy about that or not? What is the point?

separatism :1orglaugh

From what I see, I think the point was to show how stupid and ignorant most people are. :2 cents:

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Outside the playpen of Quebec, no I don't think Canadians are happy about it

I think it is stupid ... as stupid as it was to stop being an English possession ... why the fuck did we need a country called Canada ...

Same goes for the US ... should have remained as the bitch of England... :2 cents:

.. and Jamaica, Australia, and so on ....

"Les Quebecoises" are considered a nation WITHIN the country of Canada
such as the Cree Nation.. Acadians..etc..etc..

not the province itself
argumnts happen cause peopel do not read.understand completely the whole story

so stop reading/trying to undersand the news right after ya spent the night drinking with ya favorite stipper Alex! :thumbsup

Pretty much what I was saying earlier, but with a lot more detail lol.

I have this nasty habit of long posts haha :)

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ok.....and now what?

this is ridiculous...why would a province want to separate from a country as great as Canada? its like the teenage kid that decides...."Im moving out! BUT im just gonna live in my room...but you guys cant tell me what to do"

So i say FINE - charge the fuckers rent or something and dont come back crying if someone decides to invade your ass