canada's a country now?

Well that is the most ignorant thing that I have ever heard.

Really? Read the whole thread. :1orglaugh

It always amazes me how people are so quick to jump on the opportunity to display their utter ignorance, it makes me chuckle.

Heh.. Ya Stephen Harper is kissing Quebec's ass so MAYBE he has a leg to stand on come next election. He's spent so much time with his nose up Bush's ass, and making decisions and attempting to be secretive, English-speaking Canadians are sick of him, so might as well go for the Quebecois eh? They seem to be willing to follow anyone who pats their back and makes them feel special, Harper knows that.


DOH wrong acct... should have posted as LadyM lol

Ok that's better. It would be so much better if the Quebecois that push so hard for seperation would fight as hard for forging one strong nation. A lot less time and money would get wasted trying to soothe ruffled feathers.

I think you're missing the point.. he's pointing out the SHEER RIDICULOUSNESS of that concept. Quebec has always been a nation in their own mind, they have a strong culture, none of that is a bad thing, and all supported by the rest of the country on many levels. When they are stomping their heels like a spoiled child demanding things simply because they have a pressing need to feel special that it gets on people's nerves. I love Quebec, I love french people, I just don't love the fact that Quebec always seems to care more about it's own agenda than the country as a whole (the country that pours money into the province of Quebec like water, some provinces give more to Quebec than they take themselves). It's almost like reverse-racism... black people who feel that ALL white people are terrible because a few of them hate blacks. Does that make it any better?

I'm glad Stephen Harper acknowledged the French as a nation, so when are the French going to acknowledge Canada as a nation too? :)

Most ignorant reply of this thread, keep up the good work!

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keep your IMO and :2 cents: ... it makes you look stupid ...

How about coming up with figures...

Maybe 200 years ago that was true, but the french " were assimilated " in those provinces ... Louis Riel ... rings a bell in your empty cabvity ????

How is ignorant to find it ridiculous if Quebec wanted to be a seperate country yet use our currency? You do know what's involved in actually having your currency worth value on a global scale, right?

Tell me how things have been different then, enlighten me if I'm so ignorant about Quebec's behavior over the last... oh 30 years? How many times has it almost torn the entire country apart because Quebec had such a desperate need to be more important? This country does a pretty damn good job at acknowledging and supporting other cultures and belief systems, sometimes to the point where it precludes our own. How is it that my statements are ignorant? How HONESTLY has Quebec been so hard done by?

Really??? I missed that news !! :thumbsup :thumbsup

The fact that these kinds of debates happen is unbelievable. Nations are made up things. They're linguistic constructions, well-pointed out by the subtle differences in meaning between the two languages. Quebec is not a thing, and neither is the United States, or Latvia. They've all been given a linguistic label for the purposes of self-important identification and "land ownership", and serve only as a reference. Over thousands of years, society and culture have evolved as they have, with the arbitrary straight line borders we've drawn and now agree upon. Now, we have so little better to do than squabble over what lines mean what, and to which collectives we belong. It's like people who commit suicide because they're in financial ruin. Imagine, to do such a thing over something made up, that "exists" in only as long as everyone else keeps up the joke. And to what end? Organized greed and opposition, always at odds with each other because the abstractions we cling to are necessarily irresolvable.

As somebody who recently moved to canada I don't see how rational people could live in a bilingual society. Having all products and ads in both languages has to be the stupidest idea ever. To top it off the french that is spoken sounds like shit to real frenchies so the bilingual part is not really useful externally.

Call it a nation, make English the only official language and make French (if you can call it that) optional in school.

Bingo!! I as a Canadian am so sick and tired of hearing about Quebec...and them always whining about how friggen special they are. They are no more special that me, or any other person in Canada...they need to get over this crap. As for the Prime Minister saying that...they should kick him out of office for being such a friggen idiot. If they don't like it here in Canada, get the hell out, but they aren't taking the province with them...that soil is CANADIAN soil and belongs as much to me as it does to them. I can't wait for the day that Canada gets a Prime Minister in office that has enough balls to put Quebec in its place.

Read the news article I posted, Steven Harper actually went about it in a fairly smart way. ;)

Basically, Harper is just telling them something they think they want to hear, so maybe they'll shut the fuck up a bit.

It might be better if Canada just cut Quebec off totally, then went in after a few years to shoot the few starving survivors in the head. Stupid, cowardly, traitorous Frenchies.

French people and those who have the French mindset - a mistake, a cockroach on a dingleberry on the ass of humanity.

Can we just get about dividing Quebec up now? I'm really tired of hearing the spoiled child of the federation whine.

Send all the Quebecois to live in the Banlieus (sp) of Paris to fight it out with the jihadis who currently live there. Whoever wins gets a cookie.

all I know is it's damn cold today in Quebec...those french people made it way too cold here today

Thanks for the link, I read it...but I still can't really agree. We really do have to stop all this haggling and crap with Quebec, and we as a nation have to give tough love to Quebec. Quebec has become a nation of spoiled children and it is up to us as parents to say "shut up and behave" and if they don't...make them.

What about MY rights as a Canadian? My children are forced to learn French in school whether we as parents want them to or not. We spend billions making everything bilingual. Things like that have come at a great expense to everyone in Canada..and I'm so tired of it. We need to work on CANADA being the best that it can be, focus our attention on the needs of the entire country, not listen to endless rants about the insecure French stomping their feet, crying like babies and not giving a damn about anyone but themselves. It is bad enough I have to hear it....even worse that my hard earned dollars goes to pay for it.

So are you Canadians happy about that or not? What is the point?

separatism :1orglaugh

From what I see, I think the point was to show how stupid and ignorant most people are. :2 cents:

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Outside the playpen of Quebec, no I don't think Canadians are happy about it

I think it is stupid ... as stupid as it was to stop being an English possession ... why the fuck did we need a country called Canada ...

Same goes for the US ... should have remained as the bitch of England... :2 cents:

.. and Jamaica, Australia, and so on ....

"Les Quebecoises" are considered a nation WITHIN the country of Canada
such as the Cree Nation.. Acadians..etc..etc..

not the province itself
argumnts happen cause peopel do not read.understand completely the whole story

so stop reading/trying to undersand the news right after ya spent the night drinking with ya favorite stipper Alex! :thumbsup

Pretty much what I was saying earlier, but with a lot more detail lol.

I have this nasty habit of long posts haha :)

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ok.....and now what?

this is ridiculous...why would a province want to separate from a country as great as Canada? its like the teenage kid that decides...."Im moving out! BUT im just gonna live in my room...but you guys cant tell me what to do"

So i say FINE - charge the fuckers rent or something and dont come back crying if someone decides to invade your ass

yet all you can do in this thread is call people stupid and ignorant instead of explaining your thoughts. kinda makes you look stupid and ignorant.

What good could come out of it? Most people obviously have their prejudices and propaganda deeply rooted in their minds.

true but do you think you're except from prejudices and propaganda? no one is.

i think you mean the bitch of "Britian", england has'nt existed since the 17th century.

Yes, I can honestly say I am. I always judge a person by his/hers actions, not words, beliefs, skin color and especially not by where they are from. Also, I make sure I know the facts of a debate before saying anything, instead of spurting blatant propaganda and idiotic comments. We're in 2006 now and I can't believe all the crap and prejudices I've read in this thread that still lives on today in our transparent information age.

Knowledge is power.

People should know when they are conquered.

As far as Colonial powers go, the French pretty much got bitch slapped.

Cool...now that they're a nation they can start paying back all the welfare, unemployment and other transfers they've been picking canada's pockets for all these years.

This was PM Harpers way to show Quebec that he cares about them so when the next election comes around he looks like a hero to them. So in turn maybe just maybe more KBEKERS will vote Conservative and give him the majority goverment he so desperately wants.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

I am from Quebec and French but I think this whole nation or separatist thing is a load of shit.

Quebec is one of Canada's province where the majority of people speaks french and that's all it is. No better nore worse then any other province.

Before the first referendum Montreal was a booming city with most of canada's big corp head office establish there. Tons have moved away from there after the 1st referendum, tell me how was That beneficial for Montreal.

I am Proud to be Canadian and also proud to be french but god I hate these fucking seperatist whiners... They should all be shot :321GFY

Exactly. And remember, it's a motion, not a fait accompli.

yea isnt there a lotta history there?

Then apparently you've been looking everywhere but at yourself, because it's fairly obvious you've allowed your own prejudices to dictate your opinions. I never said I hated french, or Quebec, I simply hate the schoolyard BS that myself and everyone else in the country has witnessed for time immemorial. You honestly think the entire rest of the country are that stupid? Or blind? It's a much different picture on the outside looking in, I assure you.

You make no sense at all. In one sentence you say you do not judge a person by their words, and in the next you accuse people of making idiotic comments.

You say you do not judge, but you are judging. As for prejudices, once again, not only do you judge but you make inaccurate assumptions.

I judge people by their words, their beliefs as well as their actions, and anyone that doesn't isn't looking at the entire picture (I do *not* mean religion by the word belief).

I don't understand the thought processes of almost every post here. I love Quebec but some there have a weird view of independance.

I wonder why they insist on being independant to practise they're uniqueness, when Canada is one of the most special countries on the planet BECAUSE of the english/french co-existance. Someone said that was a stupid idea?

I think every province should come up and say "I am a nation". It would back the prime minister in saying this and take the wind out of the sails of the separatists thinking that this is some sort of God send.

British Columbia is a nation too. We have always been this way, and always will be. The closest people we have as friends in the country is Alberta and the Yukon, and an similarity with the maritimes. Quebec is smack in the middle of things with the economic power of leading governments. Get over yourselves. There is bigger fish to fry.

And the stupid redneck from Alberta spouting that racist shit.. you're an idiot. Go back to the moonshine and inbreeding.

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Now that's funny. Why in Quebec we need to call ourserfs Qubecois instead of Canadians.

Do you hear the rest of the country go oh yeah I am a Manitoban or an Ontarian, I am a Saskatchewanian....

I say it's BULL SHIT and just goes to show how fucking stupid "Le Party Quebecois" is, as they are the ones been bitching about this for many many years.

I am moving back to Montreal but I will always be a Canadian.

heh it gets worse, its only all in english and french in the parts of canada where nobody speaks french.

In the french parts of canada its illegal to have english signs..

Thats wrong

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:1orglaugh you frenchies are so easy to set off, it is so funny, this thread can go another 2 pages no problem just with random insults and people quoting them.

So, it is kind of like the Colbert Nation? With a small n, of course.

100 nations in Canada?