Who will be using the "INSTANT PAYOUT BY EPASSPORTE" new option in NATS? - GoFuckYourself.com

TheSenator · 11-22-2006, 08:46 AM

Who will the first affiliate to be using this new feature by NATS?

INSTANT PAYOUTS BY EPASSPORTE.

Negative or Positive?

uno · 11-22-2006, 09:22 AM

We're looking it over and thinking about it.

jimthefiend · 11-22-2006, 09:25 AM

NEGATIVE. VERY bad idea imho.

But what do I know?

the alchemist · 11-22-2006, 09:28 AM

Sounds dumb to me, weekly maybe but instant?

jimthefiend · 11-22-2006, 09:29 AM

Even if you ignore the possible abuse, I just can't see programs wanting to fund the account constantly like that.

BoyAlley · 11-22-2006, 09:29 AM

I'm sure we'll be seeing some programs use it, and I'm sure affiliates will absolutely love it, but I personally think it's a pretty scurry feature.

Can it be used on an affiliate-by-affiliate basis, or does it have to be turned on program wide?

I can see allowing some long term trusted affiliates use it, as a sign of appreciation and the like, but I can't ever imagine having everyone under the sun use it.

xclusive · 11-22-2006, 09:31 AM

I think it would be a great idea but only for affiliates that have a track record with the company.

he-fox · 11-22-2006, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive

I think it would be a great idea but only for affiliates that have a track record with the company.

DWB · 11-22-2006, 09:33 AM

I think it's a bad idea, but now since it's there... it's just a matter of time before everyone starts offering same day $100 payouts on $1 trials.

Someone will be the first and the rest of the sheep will follow.

And around and around we go.....

Nicky · 11-22-2006, 09:34 AM

Nice feature if you dont look at the fraud that will be possible with it. But id be sure to try it out if some good program decides to use it

Tuga · 11-22-2006, 09:34 AM

I am sure some programs will use it to stand above the crowd.

TheDoc · 11-22-2006, 09:36 AM

I haven't seen the product but I'm going to go with NO... Almost all webmasters that cc fraud choose epass as the payment method.. So, again no way in hell.

With established webmasters / companies, they don't care about daily payments. If the deal is so big they need to be paid fast then wire payments are simple to do and easier to track. Everyone else can wait on a check or a normal epass payment.

jimthefiend · 11-22-2006, 09:37 AM

This the the adult industry, not day labor. Fucking dumb idea.

hzoltan · 11-22-2006, 09:42 AM

do you have a link where I can find more about this NATS update?

PMdave · 11-22-2006, 09:43 AM

flashcash does it for years. But they have/had some seriuos software in place to detect fraudulent transactions and any suspicious transaction was only paid at the end of the payperiod.

pussyluver · 11-22-2006, 09:54 AM

Beats waiting or no check. Don't care if JTF thinks of me as day labor!

Instant payment is not required, I'm sure this will get plenty of attention from the sponsors that give it a shot. Seems like risky business as others in the thread have said.

Getting paid once a month is to long right now. Most of us are for that instant gratification I guess.

Doctor Dre · 11-22-2006, 09:56 AM

I would certainly love my affiliate program to pay me instant... or the next week... not 3 week after the 2 weeks pay period (5 weeks from the first sale sent).

jimthefiend · 11-22-2006, 09:59 AM

Lot's of programs have weekly payouts, DUH.

See sig.

cool1 · 11-22-2006, 10:00 AM

Once a week for all programswould be great

Pete-KT · 11-22-2006, 10:03 AM

we WILL NOT use it, with the amount of fraud I hear about and Ive seen a few affilaites with fraud, its not worth it, If an affilaites needs his money right away for some reason I have no problem with them contacting me and getting an early payout

CaptainHowdy · 11-22-2006, 10:05 AM

I guess It will depend on the webmaster...

Dollarmansteve · 11-22-2006, 10:08 AM

The irony is the affiliates who would place the highest value in being paid out instantly are the ones most likely to be fraud.

Large affiliates who would be in the 'trusted' category would be bigger operations who arent as depedent on cashflow and most would not put a high-value on getting their money 'nstantly. Getting cash once a week is virtually 'instant' for a legit business.

Klen · 11-22-2006, 10:10 AM

That will be good,a lot of mainstream affiliate programs use that option.

Theo · 11-22-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

The irony is the affiliates who would place the highest value in being paid out instantly are the ones most likely to be fraud.

and thee aff.programs to use it those that more likely already defraud their webmasters.

you gotta love this industry

Theo · 11-22-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

That will be good,a lot of mainstream affiliate programs use that option.

like which?

Buddy · 11-22-2006, 10:28 AM

We at FlashCash have been doing this for years, and NATS integrating that feature was a condition of our using their software.

A lot of you guys mentioned the amount of fraud that this opens the door to, you are absolutely right. We are only able to do it because we devote a tremendous amount of time and technology on fraud prevention and detection.
We are happy to provide it for our (honest) webmasters.
Why wait for a check?

TheSenator · 11-22-2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive

I think it would be a great idea but only for affiliates that have a track record with the company.

STEP 1.
I think a phone interview, a copy of your driver's license and a copy of your electric bill with your current address.

there should be other steps... but I am currently cropping thumbs.

Tempest · 11-22-2006, 10:55 AM

ePassporte showing once again how they're a haven for all those committing fraud.

bdld · 11-22-2006, 02:02 PM

sounds like a good thing a sponsor could offer for its' "approved" affiliates.

TheSenator · 11-22-2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld

sounds like a good thing a sponsor could offer for its' "approved" affiliates.

So, which affiliate program are offering this?

chri$tian · 11-22-2006, 03:44 PM

I think we will be offering this to our to our already proven current legit webmasters.

marko13 · 11-22-2006, 04:49 PM

i think it is very good option.... i'm tired of waiting 2 weeks for the period and another 1 week the transfer to occur.... i like instant payment... but a lot of sponsors won't do that because they want to play little games with our money...

jacked · 11-22-2006, 04:52 PM

very good option to payout qualified affiliates obviously you can't open this option up to everyone, it would have to be on a per affiliate basis or the amount of affiliate fraud would jump through the roof.

ArkansasDave · 11-22-2006, 05:59 PM

sounds like a good way to take the $$ and run. webmaster affiliate here today and gone tomorrow with your loot.

garce · 11-22-2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Lot's of programs have weekly payouts, DUH.

See sig.

And lots of programs pay out bi-weekly after an initial one month holdback. Start promoting on Nov. 1 and receive your first payment on or after Dec. 16.

Good to fight fraud, but it gets annoying after a couple of years...

madawgz · 11-22-2006, 08:39 PM

only trusted webmasters of the program should be allowed to use this feature

but whats so wrong waiting a week to get paid?

Thurbs · 11-22-2006, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

That will be good,a lot of mainstream affiliate programs use that option.

you must be confused most Mainstream affiliate programs work on a NET30 or NET60 schedule.

show me some of these wonderful instant payout mainstream programs, my adcenter rep will love me.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-22-2006, 08:49 PM

i agree with all the fraud thing, i wouldn't stop promoting a program because they decide not to use this feature, but it would be nice to get your payout for the sales you sent that day, that night

11-22-2006, 08:46 AM	#1
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,337	Who will be using the "INSTANT PAYOUT BY EPASSPORTE" new option in NATS? Who will the first affiliate to be using this new feature by NATS? INSTANT PAYOUTS BY EPASSPORTE. Negative or Positive? __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

11-22-2006, 09:22 AM	#2
uno RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Area Posts: 18,450	We're looking it over and thinking about it. __________________ -uno icq: 111-914 CrazyBabe.com - porn art MojoHost - For all your hosting needs, present and future. Tell them I sent ya!

11-22-2006, 09:28 AM	#4
the alchemist Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,271	Sounds dumb to me, weekly maybe but instant? __________________ 264 349 400

11-22-2006, 09:31 AM	#7
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	I think it would be a great idea but only for affiliates that have a track record with the company. __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

11-22-2006, 09:34 AM	#10
Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,070	Nice feature if you dont look at the fraud that will be possible with it. But id be sure to try it out if some good program decides to use it __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

11-22-2006, 09:25 AM	#3
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	NEGATIVE. VERY bad idea imho. But what do I know?

11-22-2006, 09:29 AM	#5
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	Even if you ignore the possible abuse, I just can't see programs wanting to fund the account constantly like that.

11-22-2006, 09:29 AM	#6
BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	I'm sure we'll be seeing some programs use it, and I'm sure affiliates will absolutely love it, but I personally think it's a pretty scurry feature. Can it be used on an affiliate-by-affiliate basis, or does it have to be turned on program wide? I can see allowing some long term trusted affiliates use it, as a sign of appreciation and the like, but I can't ever imagine having everyone under the sun use it.

11-22-2006, 09:33 AM	#9
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I think it's a bad idea, but now since it's there... it's just a matter of time before everyone starts offering same day $100 payouts on $1 trials. Someone will be the first and the rest of the sheep will follow. And around and around we go.....

11-22-2006, 09:34 AM	#11
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	I am sure some programs will use it to stand above the crowd. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

11-22-2006, 09:36 AM	#12
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I haven't seen the product but I'm going to go with NO... Almost all webmasters that cc fraud choose epass as the payment method.. So, again no way in hell. With established webmasters / companies, they don't care about daily payments. If the deal is so big they need to be paid fast then wire payments are simple to do and easier to track. Everyone else can wait on a check or a normal epass payment. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

11-22-2006, 09:37 AM	#13
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	This the the adult industry, not day labor. Fucking dumb idea.

11-22-2006, 09:42 AM	#14
hzoltan Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 21sextury Cash HQ Posts: 2,007	do you have a link where I can find more about this NATS update? __________________ Gabriel - [email protected] - ICQ 636275551

11-22-2006, 09:43 AM	#15
PMdave Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,517	flashcash does it for years. But they have/had some seriuos software in place to detect fraudulent transactions and any suspicious transaction was only paid at the end of the payperiod.

11-22-2006, 09:54 AM	#16
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Beats waiting or no check. Don't care if JTF thinks of me as day labor! Instant payment is not required, I'm sure this will get plenty of attention from the sponsors that give it a shot. Seems like risky business as others in the thread have said. Getting paid once a month is to long right now. Most of us are for that instant gratification I guess.

11-22-2006, 09:59 AM	#18
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	Lot's of programs have weekly payouts, DUH. See sig.

11-22-2006, 10:00 AM	#19
cool1 sex is good Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carman, MB Canada Posts: 24,939	Once a week for all programswould be great __________________

11-22-2006, 10:03 AM	#20
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	we WILL NOT use it, with the amount of fraud I hear about and Ive seen a few affilaites with fraud, its not worth it, If an affilaites needs his money right away for some reason I have no problem with them contacting me and getting an early payout

11-22-2006, 10:05 AM	#21
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11-22-2006, 10:08 AM	#22
Dollarmansteve Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: T.O. Posts: 2,849	The irony is the affiliates who would place the highest value in being paid out instantly are the ones most likely to be fraud. Large affiliates who would be in the 'trusted' category would be bigger operations who arent as depedent on cashflow and most would not put a high-value on getting their money 'nstantly. Getting cash once a week is virtually 'instant' for a legit business. __________________ I died.

11-22-2006, 10:10 AM	#23
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	That will be good,a lot of mainstream affiliate programs use that option.

11-22-2006, 10:28 AM	#26
Buddy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: FlashCa$h Headquarters Posts: 1,828	We at FlashCash have been doing this for years, and NATS integrating that feature was a condition of our using their software. A lot of you guys mentioned the amount of fraud that this opens the door to, you are absolutely right. We are only able to do it because we devote a tremendous amount of time and technology on fraud prevention and detection. We are happy to provide it for our (honest) webmasters. Why wait for a check? __________________ -165486536 Disce quotidie * Ride quotidie * Ama quotidie * Cresce quotidie FlashCa$h Who the hell am I?

11-22-2006, 10:55 AM	#28
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	ePassporte showing once again how they're a haven for all those committing fraud.

11-22-2006, 02:02 PM	#29
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	sounds like a good thing a sponsor could offer for its' "approved" affiliates.

11-22-2006, 03:44 PM	#31
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marko13 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: www.lvpshosting.com Posts: 7,512	i think it is very good option.... i'm tired of waiting 2 weeks for the period and another 1 week the transfer to occur.... i like instant payment... but a lot of sponsors won't do that because they want to play little games with our money... __________________ We are responsible for your hosting ... Enjoy in your life. Shared hosting from $3.95 Europe Linux VPS plans from $11.37 http://www.LVPSHosting.com

11-22-2006, 04:52 PM	#33
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11-22-2006, 05:59 PM	#34
ArkansasDave Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 2,148	sounds like a good way to take the $$ and run. webmaster affiliate here today and gone tomorrow with your loot. __________________ -ArkansasDave! ICQ: 759-84452 CDGirls.com Do It!

11-22-2006, 08:39 PM	#36
madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	only trusted webmasters of the program should be allowed to use this feature but whats so wrong waiting a week to get paid? __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

11-22-2006, 08:49 PM	#38
Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	i agree with all the fraud thing, i wouldn't stop promoting a program because they decide not to use this feature, but it would be nice to get your payout for the sales you sent that day, that night