Funny how he has time to respond to all of your emails. Must not have any work to do.

He is busy processing all those payments that have been going out since last week.

:winkwink:

switch processors.

Yeah sure thing bud.

:helpme

Indeed, however, I can only imagine the stress he's under. He's under fire from all angles and having to pay out a ton of money with no money coming in to account for it.

Was their company not screwed over initially, which led to all of this in the first place?

If that's the case, I could only imagine the insane amount of pressure you'd have to go through when you have tons of blood hungry people at your throats trying to rip money out of you right after you get screwed over yourself.

What fucked them in the end is themselves.

They did not communicate in a timely fashion when they lost their M.C.. It showed up on the board(s) DAYS before they made an "official" announcement.

Then they started stop paying people, and locking them out of their accounts. Again, with little to no communication. Then weeks later he gives an interview to XBiz, and tells us WE need to contact HIM to get access to our admin areas, and accounts?!?!?!

Also using that forum (XBiz article) to notify people of the company's situation, instead of contacting your clients, via e-mail, control panels, etc.?!?!?

I mean come on man...

Wow what an unbelievable piece of shit, an illiterate one at that.

This guy needs to be put in jail. That simple.

well, i have to admit i'm up to date with my payments - the last one this monday as usual

Congrats to you sire.

:thumbsup

50 crooks

Howie
 

Oh for Christ's sake...



Howard, the word is "patience", not patients... * P A T I E N C E *

Damn, Haven't been around in a while and now paymonde seem to have gone down

what happened?

hope you get your money barefootsies bro

This GFY and everyone is quick to call Howard a crook. He's been paying out regardless of the fact he isn't being paid from his bank. He is trying to do the honorable thing and covering the debts, people need to give the guy a chance.

As for being locked out of the admin, many people on here were saying how they planned to refund everyone and cause hundreds if not thousands of chargebacks, he's protecting all his clients by locking the admin down after comments like that.

Someone please tell him it's "patience". Thank you. That is all.

An interesting perspective.

Has anyone came forward with "I've been Paid" yet as he is claiming?

In some of the NO-PAYmonde threads there have been people who have said they were paid 1/3rd of what they were owed, or claim to be paid up to date, and have never missed a single payment.

There there are those who used to be fairly vocal, and disappeared. So maybe they were paid as well.

:2 cents:

Yes. They are out of business.

Howard bought a Nixon mask, and is not a crook.


Thanks brotha. It's pretty much a write off for us small fries. But the support's appreciated.

:thumbsup

i did

of course i'm not happy with the situation, especially cause my whole shop is based on their database and shopping cart - so it's not much more than a bunch of galleries atm and pretty much useless otherwise.

but: i received all payments that were due

Everyone is quick to call him a crook because he doesn't respond to anyone - emails, icqs, calls. How honorable is it when he will send people their money on a case by case basis - They have to contact him to get their money? How honorable is it when someone like Barefootsies contacts him and all he cares about is his screename on GFY? Personal attacks are unprofessional. This is why he is where he's at on GFY. Business is still business and he needs to start owning up to it.

What he needs to do is NOT have xbiz interviews to get the word out. He needs to start emailing his affiliates, merchants, etc and let them know what's going on. Start being honest with people on when the payments will be made and STOP with the personal vendettas over their posts (i.e. holding a payment because of a post).

Print that out. It will look very good in court.

When they locked you out of your account they terminated their contract with you so they cannot seek refuge in their TOS.

You would be best served by simply filing suit at this point. Sue them for breech of contract and ask for your money and damages. you will likely not get much but I would sue the company, Howie and "motherfucker".

Well I have not said any thing negative about paymond any where, and have not been bugging them, but to day I discover I can no longer login my account, and many of their pages can not be found, no longer on line. I would think they should have a explaination on their main page but nothing, just a forbidden message. I'm wondering if they simply blocked my IP or if their pages are really forbidden for all.

Can any one access their main pages or login their account?

Just a quick update. I thought I would try to see what happens if I click on the lost password link. Wekk they have my email in their system but they say my account is not active yet, even though it's been active for a few years when they were still called myvirtualcard.

Here is the exact message,

The email you entered is indeed in our system, and attached to an account. However, this account has not yet been verified by either phone authentication or manual verification. If you are interested in activating your account, please send an email to [email protected] from the [email protected] email account.

This is very weird!

I emailed them about this, wonder if they will reply.

Every company runs into problems from time to time and find themselves with customers practically driving them insane, and rightly so from the customers perspective. Lashing out and punishing those customers is not a proper response nor is it acceptable.

I go away for a few days and all hell breaks loose -- LOL!

Our esteemed friend Barefoot has done our little world a huge favour by helping to reveal the REAL Howie behind Paymonde's dead air and Xbiz's unconscionable flacking and, pals, I think we owe this excellent gentleman a large debt of gratitude.

And now once again into the lurch...

Howie has shown himself to be not merely an illiterate thug and boorish bully, but more to the point, a sanctimonious hypocrite who even now -- after weeks of outrageous business practice and out-and-out deception -- is perfectly capable and willing to continue his fraudulent and illegitimate behaviour no matter what the cost to his reputation or to the poor souls who trusted him and his unsavoury confreres.

In another setting, this would pass as farce or black comedy, but with (as he admits) the lives and livelihood of thousands of webmasters and site owners in the balance, Howie's macabre bravado and insolence is nothing less than a devastating indictment of his moral (as well as literal) bankruptcy.

My friend Barefoot (as well as many others) has already made the point that this entire situation was created by, for and because of Howie. It was HIS refusal to tell the truth to his clients, HIS reluctance to answer the charges levelled against him here and elsewhere, HIS decision to deny his clients access to their accounts and records, HIS unwillingness to disburse the funds he had accepted in trust that created this situation.

Sorry Howie boy, but it was not Barefootsies nor the estimable Webby nor me nor anyone else who created this disgusting mess. It was you and your loathesome pals who chose of your free will (and with malice aforethought) to, first, lie to your clients (the now infamous "technical problems" with Mastercard), then -- when challenged here -- to issue ONE and ONE only notice that your bank could not/would not accept MC and that pay-outs would be "temporarily" delayed and, finally, to stand dead mute for week-in and week-out whilst paying no one (or only a "chosen few"). This is your nightmare, buddyboy, you made, you own it.

But oh what arrogance to dare to shift the blame to those of us who trusted in you and believed in your good faith! Shame shame shame Howie, shame on you for daring to suggest that we -- to whom you presented yourself as a person worthy of respect and trust -- ought to have kept our mouths shut when you yourself were silent and when you were lining your own pockets with our hard-earned funds.

On one account you are right. You are NOT "Howie", you are now and forever more SCUMBAG, LOSER, THIEF. You have been convicted out of your own illiterate mouth, hoist on your own vulgar and grotesque petard. You have no power over me nor can you extort silence with promises of paying me my own money.

You need help, friend, and I pray earnestly you find it.


I cannot help but agree with others that it seems highly likely that this fraud was calculated long in advance and still believe that most (if not all) of those effected will

IBill... errr oups I mean Hi Howard.

Man I feel sorry for you guys and I am sooo glad i followed my instincs first time I met Howard in Montreal.

As they say in my Province

"C'est la vie tabarnak"

You are correct sire.

That is exactly what they did. Which made their T.O.S. null and void. However Howard is trying to enforce it.

Again, I can only sum it up as, "Laughable".

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nor is it legal. when you terminate a contract with someone you are required to settle any outstanding balances or be open to punitive damages.

I would like to see a couple of things:

1. I would like to see someone (or a group of someones) sue and win.

2. I would like to see the entire Paymonde/MyVirtualCard crew lying in the gutter.

I believe Miura and crew is on this one...

and some else made mention of them being to work on this one..

So I guess we are waiting on

3. Mission Accomplished.

you TOO Can Be a Howie
 

fuck paymonde

Ironically.. CASH says it best..

Initially I wanted to start this reply out with YOU ARE AN IDIOT, but I though better of it and decided to start the reply like this:

YOU ARE A RETARD!

If I sell a product or service the revenue from that sale is MY money. If I later decide to refund MY customer with money that belongs to me and give them access to the service for free that is MY business. If I decide to stick MY money up a wild hog's ass and yell BOO! that is MY business because it is MY money.

Paymonde locked accounts so that webmasters could not have access to rebill info. This was/is a blatant act of fraud. They can't pay people because they DO NOT WANT to pay people.

What webmasters do with their own money is not business of mine, yours and most of all Paymonde.

Exactly.

Besides the fact I was not refunding customers, nor having them do massive charge backs. I also made that more than clear in my postings.

I simply canceled re bills.

I then e-mailed my customers, and told them I was doing so. The reasons behind it. I then explained they needed to change processors in December, and that Paymonde access, and their script would be removed in December.

I did it this way so it was least impacting to my customers.

The benefit I suppose was that there was not massive charge backs to Howie, and the motherfuckers. But my customers, and business come before the rest.

While fucking over the iMonde crew would probably give me some delight. I instead opted to transition my customers off the monde since they were not paying me. Since I need money to keep operating, I was going to make sure no more of my hard earned cash went into the iMonde coffers.

For those who were bigger fish, lived close to Howie, or know him on a personal basis and received payments, or never missed one. Bravo.

However, for use smaller to mid sized companies. We need our money coming in to cover models, and expenses. We are not just going to "be patient" when there is no communication for weeks. Either in general, or to any of our phone calls, e-mails, or trouble tickets.

We have a business to run. People need to be paid, and "being patient" is not going to get them working.

We simply cannot afford such an asinine logic. Once the payments stopped, and received no correspondence for days. We removed the join page, canceled re bills, and advised our customers.

We then asked for payment of all funds.

Until yesterday, and today, I have received little to NO communication from iMonde in regards to missing payments, much less payment in full.

As for Howard. He's content being proud, and "sticking it to those handful of GFY posters" who have done him wrong. Whatever.

We make our decisions based on business. Not personal bullshit. We need our money coming in per contract with Paymonde. When they did not fulfill their end, nor even bother to let me know so I could make some moves. Then locked me out of my account, they voided that agreement.

Since doing so more than two weeks ago. I have yet to see a penny. But as Howie had said. He doesn't think any of this will effect his reputation.

Time will tell.

:disgust

nope its a 'microniche' ... french canadian jew.

For those trying to track them down.