Is this the right way to promote amateur pages? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jon - Pussy.org · 07-12-2002, 09:26 AM

Hi Guys, I signed up for the ClickPic program on amateur money couple of days ago and its going great for me, making around 125 clicks an hour which is nice, but im asking if the veterans of you out there if my method of promotion is correct.. Ive read all the rules very carefully and would like someones approval as I've read stories of some people saying amateurpages is fantastic .etc and others saying they were not.. obviously those that were not did something wrong but I do not wish to find that 2 months down the line im actually not going to be paid after making nearly $8000 or so. So

On http://www.pussy.org/ you will see that each of the thumbnails on the second row of 6 thumbnails on the main page (entitled "Daily Amateur Galleries") link to a page with a the correct full size picture of one of the amateurpages models... this is how I'm promoting the clickpic amateurmoney program....

Is this alrite?

Lensmans if you read this please give me the all clear, but anyone else's advice would be grateful

Regards Jon

Disil · 07-12-2002, 09:33 AM

Lensman and Mike69 agreed with my methods completely and totally, they even paid my bills for the server I used for spamming, with full knowledge of my spamming methods and that they were paying for the server which I was using for spamming their program. The server bills were of course paid out of my commission, not out of their pocket, but they made the payment fusing their personal credict cards.

So if they tell you its alright now, dont trust it will be alright 2 months down the line. And the worst part is, you'll never know when you've been terminated, cos your stats wuill work, you'll make them money, you'll get their emails, their prize draws. Only, they'll keep all that money for themselves.

In the support forum RAM posts its alright to send hits usiong blind links so long as they fall within the 1:800 ratio, but Slick is terminated for the same reason after 3 years of being with them.

Disil · 07-12-2002, 09:36 AM

For example, despite my terminated account, here are recent emails from erasercash -

7-4-02

Congratulations!

You have just made an Internet Eraser Sale!

Keep up the good work!

Internet Eraser Staff

If you would like to turn this auto email feature off, please go to your stats
area at http://www.erasercash.com/ . Select "Information" and uncheck
the send notice option and update your details.....

7-11-02

******* HERE IS YOUR ERASERCASH CONTEST ENTRY FOR TOMORROW *********

Well time time is here, the contest for the 5th car (and 6th car if a referring webmaster wins) is closed.

Your random 3 digit code is : 902

You will find a complete list of numbers at http://www.erasercash.com/car4.htm

In case you forgot how it works, here are the determining factors.

Whom ever comes closest on Thurday July 11 2002 to the 3 digits representing the thousands section of the NASDAQ Trading Volume will be considered the winner. As reported on http://www.nasdaq.com/. eg. 1,457,345,800 - the winner would be 345

The car you win will be determined by the highest temperature in Los Angeles, CA on Thurday April 18 2002. The last Digit of the number will determine the car you have won. As reported by http://www.weather.com/

P.S. - Don't forget we will be giving away 5 more cars so if you do not win this time, you still have lots of chances.

You will get one email for each of your entries if you have more than one.

Thanks for doing business with us.

Lensman

Disil · 07-12-2002, 09:38 AM

And I have had 10 honest and very trusted names in the industry take screen shots of my stats pages showing sales worth $16000, in case there is any refutation from the Erasercash crew later.

wannabeapornstar · 07-12-2002, 09:48 AM

my account was also terminated without notice

Jon - Pussy.org · 07-12-2002, 10:03 AM

Doesnt sound too good but i know of others that say there great.. more importantly could someone check that my method of promotion is correct, so im 99% sure i will get paid?

Jon

wannabeapornstar · 07-12-2002, 10:08 AM

I also heard that they'r great, but maybe it's just my luck

Rocco · 07-12-2002, 10:11 AM

No Jon you can say 50%...

A day you can woke up and see that your account is terminated with amateurpage...

Be careful...Just my

Rocco

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 07-12-2002, 10:25 AM

This thread is a very interesting read ... but I would like to hear ADULT.COM's side of the story too ...

There are always 2 sides to any story ...

marzzo · 07-12-2002, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
There are always 2 sides to any story ...

Actually I think there's 3 sides to every story -

1) My side
2) Your side
3) The truth

Rip · 07-12-2002, 10:40 AM

You can't pop the galleries into a new window target="_top" instead of target="_blank"

99% of pay per clicks will require you to do this

hyper · 07-12-2002, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
This thread is a very interesting read ... but I would like to hear ADULT.COM's side of the story too ...

There are always 2 sides to any story ...

Ditto..

fuel123 · 07-12-2002, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Disil
And I have had 10 honest and very trusted names in the industry take screen shots of my stats pages showing sales worth $16000, in case there is any refutation from the Erasercash crew later.

Did you ever start a thread about this? You should, I would be curious to hear the response.

fuel

Disil · 07-12-2002, 10:54 AM

No, I'm not starting a thread about their spam supporting asses yet, but Mike and Lensman have read the posts. Here's Lensman's response on this post -

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...threadid=67093

He acts as if he's not paying me because I spammed his site, but the reality is he's pissed off I copied their site design. I cant believe they would terminate my $16000 worth of sale cos I experimented with site designs for a few days. That design isnt worth $500 by any designer.

ServerGenius · 07-12-2002, 10:59 AM

Not trying to Kiss Lens's hairy ass here but you spam and steal
a design of a complete website and call it testing? I think that's
a pretty damn good reason not to pay you.....

Is it so hard to play by the rules? If you walk on the edge you
should take in account that you can fall over.....it's plain simple
how many webmasters are promoting amateurpages and how
many don't get paid?

DynaMite

nocostporn · 07-12-2002, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Not trying to Kiss Lens's hairy ass here but you spam and steal
a design of a complete website and call it testing? I think that's
a pretty damn good reason not to pay you.....

Is it so hard to play by the rules? If you walk on the edge you
should take in account that you can fall over.....it's plain simple
how many webmasters are promoting amateurpages and how
many don't get paid?

DynaMite

if it's approved,doesnt that make whoever approved it a spammer and scammer as well? ...

Quoth the Raven · 07-12-2002, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org
.... Ive read all the rules very carefully ...

Then you should re-read the TOS again and again because you're violating at least 2 of the rules.

Jon - Pussy.org · 07-12-2002, 11:09 AM

Two rules? No way

You could help me out by letting me know which two they are so I can correct them

Jon

Jon - Pussy.org · 07-12-2002, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rip
You can't pop the galleries into a new window target="_top" instead of target="_blank"

99% of pay per clicks will require you to do this

Where does it say this on the site? It says you cant open amateur pages link from the big image in a new window, I dont thats target = top, where does it say you cant open the thumbnail BEFORE that page in a new window?

Regards
Jon

Disil · 07-12-2002, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Not trying to Kiss Lens's hairy ass here but you spam and steal
a design of a complete website and call it testing? I think that's
a pretty damn good reason not to pay you.....

Is it so hard to play by the rules? If you walk on the edge you
should take in account that you can fall over.....it's plain simple
how many webmasters are promoting amateurpages and how
many don't get paid?

DynaMite

Evidence Eliminator has a very professional site design that converts wonderfully. Go check it out yourself -
http://www.evidence-eliminator.com/

Why do you think I would use Internet Eraser's tour to send surfers to Evidence Eliminator? The only reason was that as an experienced webmaster I had to find out if the tours really made a difference on the sales.

Since Internet Eraser uses 2nd page clicks (giving wonderful ratios of 1:200 when it is more near 1:2000) their stats are not good enough to compare the results. So I had to send surfers from their tour for a few days to test conversions. Is it that bad a thing to do? I'm just trying to earn money, and seeing which of the two sites would work best for me. I explained all this to Mike69, and he gave me details of the wire transfer made to me in that same ICQ conversation (logged). Nowhere did he mention that my account was terminated, even though I told him I was changing links back to Internet Eraser.

All he said was "either change links back or remove the tour" . Now why did he say that when he knew my account was terminated?? He knew my account was terminated yet he asked me to change links back to internet eraser?

Jon - Pussy.org · 07-12-2002, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quoth the Raven

Then you should re-read the TOS again and again because you're violating at least 2 of the rules.

Thanks a bunch for telling me which two

- can someone help me out here? Im now even more unsure than when i started

DarkJedi · 07-12-2002, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org

Thanks a bunch for telling me which two - can someone help me out here? Im now even more unsure than when i started

dude, i think you are clean

Jon - Pussy.org · 07-12-2002, 11:55 AM

I got through on the phone and sorting it out, so no worries guys

Thanks

Jon

ServerGenius · 07-12-2002, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Disil

Evidence Eliminator has a very professional site design that converts wonderfully. Go check it out yourself -
http://www.evidence-eliminator.com/

Why do you think I would use Internet Eraser's tour to send surfers to Evidence Eliminator? The only reason was that as an experienced webmaster I had to find out if the tours really made a difference on the sales.

Since Internet Eraser uses 2nd page clicks (giving wonderful ratios of 1:200 when it is more near 1:2000) their stats are not good enough to compare the results. So I had to send surfers from their tour for a few days to test conversions. Is it that bad a thing to do? I'm just trying to earn money, and seeing which of the two sites would work best for me. I explained all this to Mike69, and he gave me details of the wire transfer made to me in that same ICQ conversation (logged). Nowhere did he mention that my account was terminated, even though I told him I was changing links back to Internet Eraser.

All he said was "either change links back or remove the tour" . Now why did he say that when he knew my account was terminated?? He knew my account was terminated yet he asked me to change links back to internet eraser?

This is no personal attack or anything alike but if I wanted to
test somebody else his design I would at least ask the owner
BEFORE I took his design if that was cool with him.

I don't know your story but it always suprises me that with no
matter what program there are always a few people that have
problems and hundreds or thousands not......now in case you
find yourself in a situation like I would just grab the phone
asked POLITELY if somebody could explain me what I did wrong.
This also gives you the opportunity to explain why you did it....
and if necesary resolve the issue and offer an apology.

Almost all programs are run by decent people who have a hell
of alot more to lose than you..Beside the fact that these people
understand pretty damn well that you are making them money.
So with just a little bit of reason it's almost always possible to
resolve issues.......unless you really have gone too far.....if this
is the case you should just walk out quietly and rethink your
strategies before getting back in this business.

Try the above sometime you will be suprised how much you can
resolve by just asking people through the proper channels.

Again no offence meant......just my opinion on problems like this.
It's not targetted at your case.....I meant this in general.

DynaMite

ServerGenius · 07-12-2002, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon - Pussy.org
I got through on the phone and sorting it out, so no worries guys

Thanks

Jon

here ya go....he understands how it works.....ask a general
question on the board....if the answer is not enough pick up
the phone and just ask.....it's really easy.

DynaMite

07-12-2002, 09:26 AM	#1
Jon - Pussy.org Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 179	Is this the right way to promote amateur pages? Hi Guys, I signed up for the ClickPic program on amateur money couple of days ago and its going great for me, making around 125 clicks an hour which is nice, but im asking if the veterans of you out there if my method of promotion is correct.. Ive read all the rules very carefully and would like someones approval as I've read stories of some people saying amateurpages is fantastic .etc and others saying they were not.. obviously those that were not did something wrong but I do not wish to find that 2 months down the line im actually not going to be paid after making nearly $8000 or so. So On http://www.pussy.org/ you will see that each of the thumbnails on the second row of 6 thumbnails on the main page (entitled "Daily Amateur Galleries") link to a page with a the correct full size picture of one of the amateurpages models... this is how I'm promoting the clickpic amateurmoney program.... Is this alrite? Lensmans if you read this please give me the all clear, but anyone else's advice would be grateful Regards Jon

07-12-2002, 09:48 AM	#5
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07-12-2002, 10:08 AM	#7
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07-12-2002, 10:25 AM	#9
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	This thread is a very interesting read ... but I would like to hear ADULT.COM's side of the story too ... There are always 2 sides to any story ... __________________

07-12-2002, 10:40 AM	#11
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	You can't pop the galleries into a new window target="_top" instead of target="_blank" 99% of pay per clicks will require you to do this __________________ ...

07-12-2002, 09:33 AM	#2
Disil Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 70	Lensman and Mike69 agreed with my methods completely and totally, they even paid my bills for the server I used for spamming, with full knowledge of my spamming methods and that they were paying for the server which I was using for spamming their program. The server bills were of course paid out of my commission, not out of their pocket, but they made the payment fusing their personal credict cards. So if they tell you its alright now, dont trust it will be alright 2 months down the line. And the worst part is, you'll never know when you've been terminated, cos your stats wuill work, you'll make them money, you'll get their emails, their prize draws. Only, they'll keep all that money for themselves. In the support forum RAM posts its alright to send hits usiong blind links so long as they fall within the 1:800 ratio, but Slick is terminated for the same reason after 3 years of being with them.

07-12-2002, 09:36 AM	#3
Disil Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 70	For example, despite my terminated account, here are recent emails from erasercash - 7-4-02 Congratulations! You have just made an Internet Eraser Sale! Keep up the good work! Internet Eraser Staff If you would like to turn this auto email feature off, please go to your stats area at http://www.erasercash.com/ . Select "Information" and uncheck the send notice option and update your details..... 7-11-02 ***** HERE IS YOUR ERASERCASH CONTEST ENTRY FOR TOMORROW ******* Well time time is here, the contest for the 5th car (and 6th car if a referring webmaster wins) is closed. Your random 3 digit code is : 902 You will find a complete list of numbers at http://www.erasercash.com/car4.htm In case you forgot how it works, here are the determining factors. Whom ever comes closest on Thurday July 11 2002 to the 3 digits representing the thousands section of the NASDAQ Trading Volume will be considered the winner. As reported on http://www.nasdaq.com/. eg. 1,457,345,800 - the winner would be 345 The car you win will be determined by the highest temperature in Los Angeles, CA on Thurday April 18 2002. The last Digit of the number will determine the car you have won. As reported by http://www.weather.com/ P.S. - Don't forget we will be giving away 5 more cars so if you do not win this time, you still have lots of chances. You will get one email for each of your entries if you have more than one. Thanks for doing business with us. Lensman

07-12-2002, 09:38 AM	#4
Disil Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 70	And I have had 10 honest and very trusted names in the industry take screen shots of my stats pages showing sales worth $16000, in case there is any refutation from the Erasercash crew later.

07-12-2002, 10:03 AM	#6
Jon - Pussy.org Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 179	Doesnt sound too good but i know of others that say there great.. more importantly could someone check that my method of promotion is correct, so im 99% sure i will get paid? Jon

07-12-2002, 10:11 AM	#8
Rocco Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 30	No Jon you can say 50%... A day you can woke up and see that your account is terminated with amateurpage... Be careful...Just my Rocco

07-12-2002, 10:54 AM	#14
Disil Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 70	No, I'm not starting a thread about their spam supporting asses yet, but Mike and Lensman have read the posts. Here's Lensman's response on this post - http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...threadid=67093 He acts as if he's not paying me because I spammed his site, but the reality is he's pissed off I copied their site design. I cant believe they would terminate my $16000 worth of sale cos I experimented with site designs for a few days. That design isnt worth $500 by any designer.

07-12-2002, 10:59 AM	#15
ServerGenius Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 9,377	Not trying to Kiss Lens's hairy ass here but you spam and steal a design of a complete website and call it testing? I think that's a pretty damn good reason not to pay you..... Is it so hard to play by the rules? If you walk on the edge you should take in account that you can fall over.....it's plain simple how many webmasters are promoting amateurpages and how many don't get paid? DynaMite __________________ \| http://www.sinnerscash.com/ \| ICQ: 370820 \| Skype: SinnersCash \| AdultWhosWho \|

07-12-2002, 11:09 AM	#18
Jon - Pussy.org Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 179	Two rules? No way You could help me out by letting me know which two they are so I can correct them Jon

07-12-2002, 11:55 AM	#23
Jon - Pussy.org Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 179	I got through on the phone and sorting it out, so no worries guys Thanks Jon