Another stalwart defender of the benighted Nort and Howie of unblessed memory. It is past (way past) unconscionable to rise to the defense of these pernicious thugs, particularly on the basis of having met them "a few times" in a social setting.

Unfortunately, some of us had the misfortune of doing business (or what passed as business) with them and are today much worse for wear. Common sense tells me that -- UNLESS one were actively involved in a fraud or deception of some kind -- one would take a few moments to communicate with one's clients, especially when there are large amounts of money held in trust hanging in the balance.

I think I need to repeat again that magic word: TRUST. We trusted Paymonde to do its job, that is, to process our customer's credit cards, collect our money and disperse it to us on a regular and timely basis. We trusted that they would communicate to us on the same regular and timely basis, particularly if there were problems.

Needless to say, our trust was misplaced. Nort and Howie, otherwise known as the DISGUSTING SCUMBAGS, betrayed our trust and violated decent business practice known to man.

The very idea that we may possibly be violating our "contracts" with Paymonde (which, as the estimable Webby has suggested, may be invalid since the legality of the mysterious entity "Paymonde" is in question) is hardly of moment in my humble opinion. I, for one, am not going to stand by idly as these larcenous losers continue to rebill my customers and purloin more money from my account.

I can only say SHAME SHAME SHAME -- shame on anyone who would defend these loathesome sleazebags in a forum filled with people who have lost thousands and tens of thousands of dollars hard-earned and fairly.

Hey Paul, sorry to see you in this muck.
What's the short version of the statement in the contract that says I have to carry their clients who haven't paid me a dime?

Would agree with you if there was a way to get members cancelled/refunded.
its not the case. They are still rebilling them and took away our control over our own clients so who's in violation here?

I need to read the contract to verify it, but I was told by a processor that Visa insist on this type of statement in the contracts.

It makes sense as well that they would put it in. Just read your contract first before you do anything hasty.

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18162

Seems Paymonde are not sitting in the Bahamas.

But why was the page still up when they were not running as a business.

We had moved them down the pecking order a long time ago and all that we lose is our reserve, can't even see what it is.

'While the Paymonde website is down, Cohen said the company will allow clients into their backend to check on their financial status if they contact him by email.'

Anybody know his e-mail??? :helpme

the xbiz article sounds like complete bs

Not only are you doing what Paul is saying. You are also showing 1000's of your past and existing customers how they can get free access to your and everyone elses sites

I'm missing something here. They lost mastercard, what about the money from visa?
"We never hid from anybody."-shutting down their site, dumping their profiles, icqs and apparently spying on boards but not posting sure seems
a lot like hiding, but wadda I know.

I wonder how much money was frozen... I'm sure they want to paint the picture that all monies were frozen and that they received 0 dollars.

I'm not bashing anyone... Just after reading the xbiz article... I think this guy needs to come to the table with the facts so then we can all make an informed decision.

My guess would be they had some lagtime in the receive money->pay to affiliates. I'm sure they have a good chunk of money that is not frozen.

Correct me if I'm wrong Paymonde.

I think a lot of those making the "Charge Back" comments are not thinking beyond this morning. It could come back to hit them.

I agree. Norton, Howard and his crew are good people. I highly doubt it that they did this on purpose.

All the best to Paymonde. :(

I agree 100%. It'll only come out of their reserves. reserves that nobody can touch right now, not even Howard or Norton.

This is so sad!! :Oh crap

We are using Paymonde as well, actually we were using them!
I know them personaly from the shows and they are great guys:thumbsup
I hope everything will work out soon!

All the BEST to Paymonde!

Hopefully The heads of Paymonde will come out of panic mode and discuss this like true business minded people. I know what it is like to lose 1st party business merchant account and land on the TML. the reserve can forfetted due to chargebacks thus they will not get a dime of the reserves if the chargeback scenario is played out.

My question is why did paymonde hit all my rebills before closing it's doors.
I am tempted to do the chargeback scenario due to this fraudulent act as i figure you purposely ripped off my customers. I also Plan to push this along to the authorities even if it hurts me as one of the leader in the adult celebrity niche. I want my money thats over 20k i can prove you committed several felonies over 100 counts.

my email is [email protected] contact me howard please
I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO GO THIS ROUTE.

and Also My MID 2536
 

its better if they can solve this issue this way around.

seems they took the site back down

Hey y'all. I don't recommend doing chargebacks b/c it could come back to haunt your business in the future.

Here's what I did, and what I would recommend to you. Get a cup of coffee, go into your admin area and cancel all your rebills by hand.

Oh, yeah, here's the backdoor link to manage your account:
http://www.paymonde.com/Merchants/_i...hp?error=login

Best of luck.

I got this week's payout today. Anyone else?

Very strange but it wrote me
'Either your username or password is incorrect.'

bull crap
the back door does not work
chargebacks n reversal is the way to go
these guys they are too smart but the long arm of law is about to catch them

for starters I am emailing every single of my clients and informing them that as I am unable to contact billing processor, the integrity and security of their credit card may be compromized and they may want to call their respective credit card companies and initiate a reversal right away

bullshit, why didn't they e-mail us and tell us something? They wonder why they get bashed. They keep telling me everyday that I will get paid and nothing happens, and we should just not worry about it and go about our day like nothing is wrong? That alone says it all,

of course it is a big and clear cut fraud.
they did not send any payouts, kicked us out of merchant account control panels and have kept on rebilling the users

Anyone in this thread or otherwise that is defending these lowlife bottomfeeders should be regarded as the same. What is happening here is nothing short of criminal until every single cent is paid to the rightful parties.

The back door works for me, is EVERYONE else having problems getting in or just some? I mean, why would I just make this up and bother posting?

I should mention that I'm a sponsor and not an affiliate. Perhaps that has something to do with it. Dunno.

I received the same error message, no e-mails from them and certainly no payout.

Hmmm, that's weird. OK, perhaps it's because I emailed Howard and he gave me that link and in the process he also "activated" my account at the same time, again, dunno.

So, I recommend sending him an email: [email protected] and asking about admin access, etc. At least it worked for me.

Best of luck.

e-mail sent.

We'll test your theory.

:disgust

Rebill clients at Paymonde !
 

hi guys,

some thoughts about this situation at paymonde.
I think the biggest loss is our rebill clients and of course the amount over 20k what paymonde owes us now.

that was simple not fair from paymonde to turn off our admin area.

We didnt even had the possibility to cancel all our clients there and move them over for example to ccbill.

If we send right now an email to all paymonde clients how can we explain them how and where they are able to cabcel their memberships?All of them will ask if their memberships was cancelled before they would sign up at a new processor for our sites again.

Do you have any suggestions how we could handle this for our existing and rebill paymonde clients?

For your help thx in advance.

kind regards

www.Kscash.biz

Anyone have sample message they send to their clients. I wish of course to cancel access and recommend they resign up - but feel sorry for the users as well who lose their $$$...

Yes.

:2 cents:

No one seems to be chiming in with any success at the link I posted. Are the people who are having problems with the link affiliates or sponsors? It's worth mentioning that this link will NOT work for AFFILIATES, it is a MERCHANT ONLY link. I'm going to assume that all who tried this link were originally smart enough to figure that out, but ya never know.

Barefootsies, keep us posted on your email, at 5,434 posts what's one more? :)

Will do sire. However I expect it to go the same as all of the phone calls, trouble tickets, and e-mails before. If I get a response, or payment, I'll definately post an update.

:disgust

Merchant link did not work for me. Said username and password were wrong. I used the email form to send pass but that didnt work either...

It'll be interesting to see what if anything happens. Keep me posted Barefootsies on any developements!

admin page of paymonde
 

we have the same trouble with the admin page :(

No luck to get in with our paymonde ID and pws.

that sucks.

We still didnt get any answer from [email protected] since 2 weeks.

Wrote to the owner Howard also,no luck .

Thats why the article what was published seems to be bullshit :(

I think a reliable future support would have been very important for them to keep the merchants somehow satisfied for a bit.

Seems thats not their business policy!

Kind regards

www.Kcash.biz

Correct. Same here.

paymonde admin page
 

Hi,

Howard has answered my email and the login page working fine right now for our account.

https://www.paymonde.com/Merchants/_...error=userpass


kind regards

www.Kcash.biz

OK, I'm helping the guys over at pamporn compile a list of merchants who need to get money back. Send an email to [email protected] with your name and how much money you're owed approximately. We need to take action quickly. I've already talked to investigators and they said we need to get more people together to make it worth while. The sooner we act, the great our chances of seeing our money. For what it's worth, Howard is still in Montreal and has family there, so it's going to be hard for him to disappear. The funds just get harder and harder to recover as time goes on b/c the money will start disappearing.

Let me add that [email protected] has a spam preventing software, so you'll get a reply that you need to confirm, and chances are this will go to your bulk folder, so look out for that.

Thanks for helping me out PhounTho!