As a smart business woman, I came on to this board and saw the countless number of "New Model" threads and how quickly the girls faded from memory. I think I have done quite well at avoiding that fate for myself. As an adult film actress, I allow myself the publicity of flashing my body where I want to...that has NOTHING to do with the calibur of my intelligence, just reflects the lack of yours. There is a time and place for everything...be it marketing the sexy side of my business or the intellectual side. If you can not tell them apart or see that both exist, then get your cock out of your hand, put away the baby wipes and read some of the articles, interviews and seminars I have written.

Damn........

How fucking dumb can you be??? I said 3 times im not talking about Kayla. What part of that dont you get moron?

But hey, nothing would surprice me comming from you. Stupid fucking sigwhore. You have done nothing in this business, you are nobody.

.. didnt you threatened to sue once? and what happened to the pussy's at pussycash? they said they were suing me - havent recived anything yet. wonder why. I have a gmail account, do you guys want to sell that one as well ? its [email protected] - that should earn you $5 buck and thereby double this month income for you

... and yes, YOU are a idiot, NOT kayla

To be quite honest, ebus...as soon as you made the sweeping generalization about models being seen with cum on their face not being able to be taken seriously...you DID insult me. I am one of those cum swallowing, ATM loving, big cock in the ass hurt me as much as you can, choke me out and rip hair from my scalp loving jizz drinkers.

Sure.. some may be like that, but on average, that's not the case. A model lifespan is about 15 years average (unless they enter another niche). Part of our studio is a model agency with around 150-200 girls - the majority operate as a business and touting themselves around for test shoots daily and showing portfoilos. Some do hardcore, some not - that's their choice, especially if they can earn far more not doing porn.

It's ironic that many models earn far more on a daily basis than the average webmaster, but hey, why not? :)

Oh! I forgot, I am a great business woman too

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Yup, ebus is definitely in the wrong biz.
He'd make a good televangelist maybe.

I have not insulted you ONCE, and yet you keep throwing shit at me.
All I said is you have to accept that the way you behave, what you do, and what you say is what people judge you buy.

Well let's look at your post again then... Yeah, I could see how everyone read that wrong. :1orglaugh

I know you are dumb as fuck, so let me explain it to you

The first reply "Stuff like that dont exactly make us think you are the sharpest tool" was a answer to why people would see kayla and only think of her boobs.

I did NOT call her stupid, I just said WHY people would look at here and NOT think she was to bright.

Do me a favor moron, but me on ignore. Because NOTHING I say would make any sence to you. You are just to fucking stupid to understand

Ebus, is this you?...

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That would explain why you're so down on models and women in our industry. None of them will touch your burnt wee wee.

No, you said "us", not "people". US as in you.

Sorry, nice try on the wiggle out attempt. :1orglaugh

I disagree. You run a pro company, therefor you only attract the pro models. They will stay for a long time for sure.

But most people start in the business by making their own site, having a BF that want to cash in on the girls slutty side, or being sucked in by a amateur photographer that promise her "I will make you famous and rich" Those people will disappear within a few years because they wont make anything above $100 a month

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh damm, and I waste my time on a debate with you, and THIS is what you come back with?

are you retarded?
Explain how you can translate "Stuff like that dont exactly make us think you are the sharpest tool" to "you are stupid"

Are you unable to see the difference in: (a)having a opinion about someone, and (b)understanding how your behavior affect the way people look at you?


no wonder you president came up with the "you are either with us or against us" - that way he didn't loose your vote

I think he may have translated it that way because that is what that slang phrase means.

Mmmm.. tell you why we get models. Word spreads and models chat with each other - and bad news spreads even faster. If we started decrying this or that girl because she did hardcore - that's not a good idea. They are all treated the same and it's not up to us to start judging anyone.

Another example... cheese :) Was sitting thru a session of almost an hours worth of raw footage for a commercial to sell a brand of cheese. Among the group was a lady from a leading ad agency. At one point there were moans about cheese and having to watch this stuff and wondering how to edit it. Back came the reply - "I am not permitted to think like that - I does not matter what the product is, - my job is to promote it". She was right. The adult biz is exactly the same as cheese. If you are promoting something, (whether you like the product or not), it's not a good idea to decry or knock the product.

The adult business is just that - a business, - and no professional biz knocks the product they are selling - ie models.

On models, you get to know them and become friends. They are OK girls and it really matters little whether they do hardcore or not. They are human and each can be entirely different to the fantasy they portray on film/video. And it sure is a fantasy - often nothing like the girl in normal life :winkwink:

On a totally separate but somewhat related topic:
I was casting a scene for a company's feature film, I needed another female for this b/g/g (I am the other girl, it has yet to be shot...you'll understand why here...). I found talent I thought would be the best match for this scene and did my usual look up on http://www.pornstarperformance.com (Yes, I know that it is not used by everyone, but usually more so if the producer had a bad experience with the talent). I also looked at the pics the agency had posted on their website...on a LARK I looked to see if the gal had a MySpace page and am I glad I did THAT! The pics on the agency site were either WAY PhotoChopped or were really old! Now, before I book anyone, I check out MySpace...just a little helpful hint from me to you!

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Hehe ... sounds not too unusual for agencies :) It's often very hard to judge on a modelcard.

Depending on what type of shoot and what is required (ie.. you want some all teeth and hair that looks alive) - only way I can tell is with six shots from an audition. If six out of six are good - you got top content - and that's very rare. If three or four shots are good - they are candidates for a shoot.

The flipside is if a model is consistantly good in every shot and the end result is always 100% guaranteed, - there is the tendency to use them regularly and shoot them to death :pimp Tho only found three girls like that in decades.

I don´t know why many webmasters are so down on female models. Maybe there are more dumb as fuck webmasters than dumb as fuck female talents.

A little more respect wouldn´t hurt anyone here.:)

So I second Sleazy dreams statement.

Damn, that gave me wood.

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I tend to shoot for a few months, then take a few off...change my look completely and then come back...helps avoid the being over-shot issue. Of course, (read with sarcasm) I am just content so what do I know?

LOL

It's been a few years since I did any shoots (partner does them), but never ceases to amaze when you see a girl in normal dress go in for makeup and styling and emerge as a goddess you'd never recognize :)

Awesome what a change of look and styling can do :thumbsup

PS But sure, you are just content :1orglaugh Little do they know...

I tend to show up in flannel jammies with sock monies on them if I have an early call time...

This post forces me to search for my "Oxford´s advanced dictionary", though I´m afraid I won´t find a proper translation there.:helpme

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Once your business gets popular enough, you can afford to take a dump on 95% of your affiliates. At least that's what some program owners do.

ooops! Sock MONKIES! LOL
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Thank´s!!! I have to admit that I expected something adult related.:censored :party-smi

ebus dk actully made a very intelligent point. Not calling kayla dumb, but if you want to be respected a bit more dont have content with cum on your tits

its like going to a business meeting wearing swimming trunks. people arent going to think your that switched on.

i didnt mean intelligent, wrong word. I meant valid.

this thread had a good start
what a waste

When have you EVER seen me in a business meeting with cum on my tits? To be honest, I often find it amusing when webmasters assume I am vapid because I am talent...I love watching their mouths fall open once I start to speak. I fall into a unique category...I have no bf or husband helping with my website, never have. I also have no agent booking my scene work...I do that myself. There are times when, jaded as I am since I am so entrenched in this industry that I do not think twice about showing my tits. If it were legal (except when it's cold outside), I'd prolly never wear clothes. Does this mean I am not capable of handling my business? Of course it doesn't. It means that I am not as hung up on nudity as others. Has it cost me business deals? Maybe...maybe not. There have been people, I am sure, not wanting to do business with me because of my cavalier ways, but there have been others that have sought me out because of the strength of my personality. The real point here is this: If you decide to judge the level of ones intelligence or capabilities based on the clique or caste that they belong to, you will undoubtedly miss out on someone who was worth the effort it would have taken to get to know them. If you are someone who has a habit of doing that, I don't really want to work with you anyway. As for the pics of me with spunk on my tits, face, ass, whatever...keep in mind, I do adult films. Those photos, too, are part of my job. I refuse to put on a false persona here and play "Ms. Business-Only" in order to "trick" someone in to doing business with me. The next time you accuse talent (or women in general) of being fake or liars, think about the implications made in this thread that I should have put on a falsehood to lull some people in to seeing what is already here...a smart gal, fully capable of handling her shit.

My thoughts entirely.

Ebus did not directly insult her, but gave the general impression of one.'

But I would put your average model a bit higher than your average webmaster. simply law of supply and demand.

Moron. Re-read your own post. She makes a comment about how big tit women aren't taken seriously and you come out and say that that perhaps her having cum on her face is why YOU don't take her seriously. You were insulting.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSWIPE

Go back to your pathetic sigwhoring.

How the fuck would you know?

Do you meet models very often?

Over the years I've seen many types of porn consumers. The two biggest groups are the guys who worship the girls and the guys who despise and belittle them. One group like the girls for sharing what they have and the others hate them. Probably because they are scared of them.

guess which one I think you fall into?

Yes you are right I know nothing about you and just taking a wild guess based on your posts.

Im not surpriced that you and people like CDsmith dont get it.

When I mentioned content-producers that seduce the models with promises of fame and fortune - you were one of those I had in mind. How many young (but legal of course) models have you promised to make famous if they took your wrinkled old dick in their mouth?

I know you would like us to think they enjoy having sex with you.

You and baddog should team up

Given the responses in this thread it appears you're the one that doesn't get it... Maybe you should buy a clue.

same as any industry - always quick buck merchants around.

Brainless, totally brainless.

After 10 years in the biz, I've seen it go from being a business to doing anything for a buck. 90% of the guys/gals I know from the old days are focusing on non-adult ventures whilst keeping a finger in the adult pie just for the "free" money. Me included :)

More and more consolidating will happen. I've seen so many new programs come out in the last few years that have totally eclipsed the older companies which have done nothing but survive on old content and reputation. You don't even see most of the owners of the older companies post or even attend shows except for maybe a dinner or two - they hire others to do the grunt work.

And anyone who insults a content girl is an idiot - THEY are putting food on your table.

Kayla - saw your pics from the show - you are looking INCREDIBLE. :)

I love you Kayla :winkwink: :thumbsup

yes it is, appoximately since 1997

When you have any industry where the entry level is very low, wide spread and so open you can expect the average common denominator to be low. Even among the highest fliers.

You truly are stupid aren't you.

Some guys, maybe guys like you, need to use these tricks to get into girls panties. some of us have charm, a sense of humor and a personality. Are you stupid or am I wrong and you are just jealous.

I assume you have never seen Eva. :winkwink:

I totally had JMan pegged wrong.. I thought he was one of the GFY'ers who just didn't give a damn.. and was only out to make another $1. Good to know he's better than that.

Kinda agree Peaches! And... can't think of anytime when established adult biz owners decryed or insulted models - it's too amateur.

Sure.. noticed the drift away from adult, tho that seems common. There is a time when it's not necessarily valid to keep investing in one industry - despite it earns serious money. Can think of a few folks who swung over to mainstream media, sports, property development and odd businesses like jet charters etc.






Kayla:

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Very cute and wholesome girl :thumbsup But where's your cotton socks? :winkwink: