Business thread: is Google PR dead? - GoFuckYourself.com

Marcus · 11-10-2006, 02:59 PM

This SEO consultant Im talking to says PR is dead. Right now I'm paying for links on similar sites to mine in hopes of getting PR. Its been 2 months now and Im still at 1/10, even thought my site is loaded with relevant content.

I don't know if I should pull those links and spend that money instead promoting my site, or leave it there and eventually get a higher PR.
I dont really understand what PR in terms of actual results, does it get you more traffic?

scottybuzz · 11-10-2006, 03:01 PM

well a very good example is sex.com

a pr0 yet makes loads!

Dirty Dane · 11-10-2006, 03:02 PM

Google is pulling the PR.

Tuga · 11-10-2006, 03:07 PM

There is no money in P(o)R(n).

2HousePlague · 11-10-2006, 03:10 PM

2hp

polish_aristocrat · 11-10-2006, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

well a very good example is sex.com

a pr0 yet makes loads!

Babaganoosh · 11-10-2006, 03:22 PM

Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.

Ace_luffy · 11-10-2006, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

There is no money in P(o)R(n).

SpacemanSpiff · 11-10-2006, 03:32 PM

PR is just one of many factors that can effect your rankings. Google can crank it's importance up or down. Right now it's pretty far down in the grand scheme of things.

DjSap · 11-10-2006, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.

couldn't agree more, optimize and try to work on the business and the pagerank will come...

madawgz · 11-10-2006, 05:57 PM

google PR isnt dead, what are you talking about?

CaptainWolfy · 11-10-2006, 07:03 PM

your focus should be on content and theme

marketsmart · 11-10-2006, 08:36 PM

give it more time...

SlamDesigns · 11-10-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

2hp

You always post such relevant content, 2HousePlague. lol. As for PR, I agree with everyone else. Focus on your site, and the PR will come. The importance of PR varies from person to person. Some say you need it, so say you don't. My honest opinion, it's waaaaaay overrated.

2HousePlague · 11-10-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SlamDesigns

You always post such relevant content, 2HousePlague. lol. As for PR, I agree with everyone else. Focus on your site, and the PR will come. The importance of PR varies from person to person. Some say you need it, so say you don't. My honest opinion, it's waaaaaay overrated.

Thanks.

2hp

The Sultan Of Smut · 11-10-2006, 10:24 PM

Na it's not dead just only one piece of the puzzle.

2HousePlague · 11-10-2006, 10:26 PM

2hp

EBORG9 · 11-10-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.

Absolutely Prophetic.

You should put that on T-Shirts.
I've never seen it put so eloquently. ( I know I had to spell that Wrong)

CC · 11-10-2006, 11:20 PM

PR is only important because some people place such a high value on it for trades and such. As far as the SERPs go, it's really not important, no.....I have PR5 sites that rank poorly and PR2 sites (even a PR0 at the moment) that rank fine. I think some people put a little too much emphasis on it.

hydro · 11-10-2006, 11:24 PM

Don't focus on increasing your pagerank focus on increasing your rankings. Pagerank is next to useless when it comes to making money, its only use is for surfers to know how "relevent" google has judged the site to be. The only people who should worry about pagerank are the people who sell links but only because they can charge more for higher PR links to people who think a pr8 link will increase the sites earnings/traffic.

bdld · 11-11-2006, 12:43 AM

PR still has its place, you can demand higher ad rates if you have high pr, for example.

aless · 11-11-2006, 12:55 AM

It is not dead IMHO, it still means something for ranking but it's just a minor factor nowadays.

It's most important value is in my opinion the fact that if you have high PR you'll easier get involved into benefical link exchange schemes because people are more eager to exchange links with a high PR site instead of being eager to exchange links with a high quality relevant site.

woj · 11-11-2006, 02:12 AM

it's only good if you know what you are doing, if you don't, you could have PR8 site and still not rank well for anything...

marko13 · 11-11-2006, 02:20 AM

you have to work on different aspects of your site .... not just links are important....

en21 · 11-11-2006, 04:39 AM

PR is still alive... check google website... google advised that PR does affect how u rank in their SE search

beta-tester · 11-11-2006, 04:43 AM

PR is not dead, do not underestimate the power of PR, as it shows really how your site is popular in the eyes of Google, higher PR means you get more links, which means your site is more popular than those with lower pr ;)

luvlyn · 11-11-2006, 04:50 AM

i know PR updates quarterly! wait for january?!

flashfreak · 11-11-2006, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by luvlyn

i know PR updates quarterly! wait for january?!

it's not on schedule.. it updates whenever google folks want

Linkster · 11-11-2006, 08:10 AM

Unfortunately as usual people are talking about two different things here

Page Rank is very important to Google - its the basis for their whole algorithm - and is made up of hundreds of factors - but unless youve been studying it for some time you would never be able to come close to guessing a pages "page rank"

PR - (what you see in that little green bar or on some seo website) is meaningless - its just a nice little graphic google makes up to appease the clueless webmasters so that they can catch them selling links - its a snapshot about 3 months behind when Google actually updates Page Rank(on almost a daily basis) - and has been this way for over 2 years

As was said earlier - build a quality site with good content and you'll get the rankings in the SEs you want

Nicky · 11-11-2006, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

Unfortunately as usual people are talking about two different things here

Page Rank is very important to Google - its the basis for their whole algorithm - and is made up of hundreds of factors - but unless youve been studying it for some time you would never be able to come close to guessing a pages "page rank"

PR - (what you see in that little green bar or on some seo website) is meaningless - its just a nice little graphic google makes up to appease the clueless webmasters so that they can catch them selling links - its a snapshot about 3 months behind when Google actually updates Page Rank(on almost a daily basis) - and has been this way for over 2 years

As was said earlier - build a quality site with good content and you'll get the rankings in the SEs you want

Ohhh so true

tincho79 · 11-11-2006, 08:37 AM

dead for me

NinjaSteve · 11-11-2006, 08:52 AM

still lives

tranza · 11-11-2006, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

well a very good example is sex.com

a pr0 yet makes loads!

You are kidding right?

Nobody is THAT dumb!!

nico-t · 11-11-2006, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.

exactly...

Nysus · 11-11-2006, 01:32 PM

PR is a good distraction..

Matt

Tempest · 11-11-2006, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus

This SEO consultant Im talking to says PR is dead.

Find a new "consultant".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus

Right now I'm paying for links on similar sites to mine in hopes of getting PR. Its been 2 months now and Im still at 1/10, even thought my site is loaded with relevant content.

The toolbar PR typically is only updated every 3 months or so, so you'll need to wait longer, especially since an update just occured.

What is the PR of the links you're buying?

Only having a couple links into your site isn't going to help raise your PR by very much if at all.

Buying a link (or getting some free ones) from a PR4+ site can be very helpfull in getting your site/page spidered quickly. So even if it's not helping much with raising your PR, it's still helpfull in getting the SEs coming around frequently.

Getting traffic to your site, increasing your PR, at the end of the day it all comes down to the same thing. Increasing the number/quality of links pointing to your site from other places. Focus on that.

pr0 · 11-11-2006, 03:12 PM

hey assholes, lets keep the pr0 talk to a minimum here...i keep getting alerts....lol

chaze · 11-11-2006, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus

This SEO consultant Im talking to says PR is dead. Right now I'm paying for links on similar sites to mine in hopes of getting PR. Its been 2 months now and Im still at 1/10, even thought my site is loaded with relevant content.

I don't know if I should pull those links and spend that money instead promoting my site, or leave it there and eventually get a higher PR.
I don't really understand what PR in terms of actual results, does it get you more traffic?

It usually takes 3 months for PR to kick in unless you do something radical. We have hundreds of top listed sites and can help your as well if this doesn't pan out. Every client has got a pr 4 or higher from our program: http://www.dwhs.com/search-engine-optimization.htm

ffmihai · 11-11-2006, 05:13 PM

i can sell you links on my sites. most of the time PR grows to 3-4
ICQ me 152283013

facialfreak · 11-11-2006, 05:35 PM

What ever happened to the novel idea of EARNING your rank??

lambpie · 11-11-2006, 05:39 PM

its not dead, you'll still need high quality incoming links with relevant anchor text to compete if your hoping to generate traffic through google..

its all about content and links.. google really is that simple..

but incoming links first.. do a search for "miserable failure" on google and you'll see what i mean..

11-10-2006, 02:59 PM	#1
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	Business thread: is Google PR dead? This SEO consultant Im talking to says PR is dead. Right now I'm paying for links on similar sites to mine in hopes of getting PR. Its been 2 months now and Im still at 1/10, even thought my site is loaded with relevant content. I don't know if I should pull those links and spend that money instead promoting my site, or leave it there and eventually get a higher PR. I dont really understand what PR in terms of actual results, does it get you more traffic?

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CC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,690	PR is only important because some people place such a high value on it for trades and such. As far as the SERPs go, it's really not important, no.....I have PR5 sites that rank poorly and PR2 sites (even a PR0 at the moment) that rank fine. I think some people put a little too much emphasis on it. Last edited by CC; 11-10-2006 at 11:21 PM..

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hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	Don't focus on increasing your pagerank focus on increasing your rankings. Pagerank is next to useless when it comes to making money, its only use is for surfers to know how "relevent" google has judged the site to be. The only people who should worry about pagerank are the people who sell links but only because they can charge more for higher PR links to people who think a pr8 link will increase the sites earnings/traffic.

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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	PR still has its place, you can demand higher ad rates if you have high pr, for example.

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aless Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 1,265	It is not dead IMHO, it still means something for ranking but it's just a minor factor nowadays. It's most important value is in my opinion the fact that if you have high PR you'll easier get involved into benefical link exchange schemes because people are more eager to exchange links with a high PR site instead of being eager to exchange links with a high quality relevant site. __________________ ICQ: 454148504

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11-11-2006, 01:32 PM	#35
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11-11-2006, 05:39 PM	#41
lambpie Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 671	its not dead, you'll still need high quality incoming links with relevant anchor text to compete if your hoping to generate traffic through google.. its all about content and links.. google really is that simple.. but incoming links first.. do a search for "miserable failure" on google and you'll see what i mean..