so yer saying people can have kids and demand that I pay for it?

when surviving depends on exchanging money for goods to live, you have to base it on 'a dollar' to some extent. unless these people are totall self sufficent (which you'll pretty much never see in america) they need money to some extent just so the kids can eat. if you are having kids you can't even afford to feed and cloth, that should be a crime. sure its a 'right' but is it right to bring children into the world when even their most basic of needs won't be met?

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The rich have so many condoms they are finding other uses for them.

OK... "Rich" is relative, and it's nice to know you may have $1mill stuffed in a bank, - but that is not exactly going to change your whole life (despite what many folks think).

It's also true that there is a element of abusers in any society - that will never change and it's nothing new.

Decrying people who are not "rich" can often be unjustified and often arises out of a stereotype where folks who are not rich are classified as "losers" blah.

Can think of a few people who are not rich, but they have contributed more in their lifetime than 99% of us ever will do. Academically, they are highly educated and with a wealth of experience which has been applied to help others. These folks are highly respected for who they are - not how much money they have. They have a very modest lifestyle and have no problems with that.

One is a college professor (least by profession), but he spends his time on projects and eg just finished a project in Africa heading 3000 people working on developing methods of growing food in the desert, for which he got UN awards and where the UN have adopted his model. He also has testimonials from ministers of many govts where he offered his services and worked with them. This guy can't even afford a car - he's a giver, not a taker - and we gave him a car to help him get around. Between his projects - he's personally involved in helping others. All he wants to ensure is that his family have an education and ensure they are equipped to be able to offer something in their lives.

Another is an international jurist. She has negotiated everything from international boundary disputes to regional conflicts. Sure, she got her expenses covered for her work, but she is not "rich" or anything near that level and lives in a very modest home. Recently she was the first lady to be appointed as a justice to an international court and she is looking forward to being of use to the court, - at least she will be salaried during her term as a justice, - but that is not why she has accepted the nomination. Her interests come from being able to contribute - not from a financial aspect.

Despite both have barely any dollars between them, they are highly respected both locally and internationally. Back to - it's who you are that matters, - not how many dollars you may be clutching :pimp

It's a lottery. One of the little vermin will grow up and help take care of the parents.

Too poor to afford heating in the winter so they fuck...

I know some people around here that just keep popping them out because they get more money each month from the Gov.... Indian reservation

May be in Africa poor people don't use condoms, but in any country even poor person knows how not to get pregnant.

maybe because kids are very happy thing to have.... and you talk like that because maybe you are not parent...

You have a point there, but that's only with those that are extremely poor like
in the 3rd world. But most of the "minimum wage and factory workers", like
TS stated have a lot of kids because they feel rich/happy having them.

I have a friend who works at (almost) minimum wage, and he has 4 kids running
around.. The guy can't afford any luxury at all, so I asked him one day why he
and his wife (she's not working) did decide to have that many kids.
He could have 2 and live (imho) relatively good..

He turned his head to his kids who were sitting at the dining table
and just said "Jazz man, I live like a king just look at my treasures".
And there they were. Sitting at the dining table, playing a board game
and laughing like only kids can laugh. It was just like in some family-movie.
I immediately understood what he was trying to say.

50 poor people with kids....

many many reasons, different reason in different country, different thinking and different person

1.because they don't have much live except have sex at home
2.because they get more kids can get more money from goverment
3.because they need labor
4.because they wish one of their kids can be rich
5.because they enjoy kids play around them
6.because they like to do things for kids, which can make they forget their poor life

Because they cant afford birth controll? $$

Ahh fuck it.

How about they are the average everyday people who keep the economy and country moving. Often both spouses work at the factory, both get minimum wage which is a joke, and they do not get welfare money.

How about that they have the same desire to have children as everybody else. They just may do it younger when their bodies can put up with working double or triple shifts and or two to three jobs at once. With the slim hope that maybe just maybe one of the next generation may make it to college or something so that they can have it a little bit better in life.

How about they do not get enough to save in the first place. Rents have gone up, mortgages have gone up, inflation has gone up, benefits have gone down, and their wages have remained the same forever. Only bonus they get is to work more hours per week to remain the same in order to pay everything else that has gone up.

Welcome to the working class of the United States, have a nice day.

Money wise, you are NEVER ready for a child. We thought that our income was what we needed, so we had a baby. The doctors and hospital was all paid in cash, no problems. we have a beautiful baby boy, and now, we find we dont have enough money to give him everything that we want.

35 to 55 $ on an outfit that he outgrows in 2 months, 50$ for shoes that he out grows in 2 months. and 8 to 12 diapers a day.

It adds up fast.

And trust me, we are by no means poor. but we find ourselves cutting back on the things we want, to give him what we want him to have.

No, poor people can find creative ways to get money like shooting you in your fucking head and taking it. They are not going to stop living because wealthy people say so. And living like a human means having kids when you want to and not when the powerful rich mans says it's ok.

Rich people have less kids because they fucking kill them with this thing known as abortion. And poor people are smart enough to not be forced into killing their kids because you said so.

Yeah, that's what I call "back door genocide".
Disenfranchise the race you want to extreminate and keep the out of work and poor. Then make it a crime for them to create more of themselves and jail the ones who violate this law for life.


Let the genocide began!!!!!

Most people have more kids to help with income (you can get addional support with kids) plus when they grow up you've got more to look after you.

Cos these people don't carry for money, for earning and just live like Lord said, simply live and give birth to children..and they are happy about that

Funny how this work. If everyone really made 3.5 million / year tomorrow, pretty soon a cheeseburger would cost you $50,000... just the way things work :2 cents:

I can't agree more.

Because they can't afford fleshlights.

you are a moron and a racist if you believe poverty is limited to certain races. your ranting in this thread is total nonsense. i highly doubt anyone here is talking about rich vs poor. middle class people do a fine job of taking care of their own, even a lot of lower class people do but if you don't find it cruel for these people who are obviously selfish in not caring what kind of enviroment they bring their kids into then you are must be biased due to something in your personal life. you honestly think its a good idea for someone to have another kid they know they can't afford to feed? you honestly think it should be ok for others to have to pay for their lack of responsiblity? you refuse to see any logic.

What he said.