How many of you would have your bodies frozen after death - GoFuckYourself.com

Cappy Canucklehead · 07-09-2002, 07:07 PM

This is back in the news again .
Forty-nine people have decided to freeze themselves at the Alcor facility in Arizona. Yes, they've had themselves frozen. There are four people in each of those vats -- really, truly, four people in each of those vats being suspended upside down. The aim is that some day there will be a cure for whatever killed them and that they would be cured and revived.
I think this is a bloody scam. Once you are dead you are dead-and you will never be able to be brought back. It would be nice if man can achieve this technology, but I have my doubts. There are of course, other isues, like the expanding world population as well.

Dawgy · 07-09-2002, 07:08 PM

u shouldnt fuck with mother nature.

roseyrid · 07-09-2002, 07:15 PM

i want to be bronzed

reddawg · 07-09-2002, 07:15 PM

I already have a cold heart and the bitches I try to meet are frigid, so now I need to be frosted too. Where does it end

RW316 · 07-09-2002, 07:23 PM

naah its too risky and scary.. dont want no doctors seeing my balls

mjrools23 · 07-09-2002, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
u shouldnt fuck with mother nature.

then stop taking pills and medication when u get sick

SykkBoy · 07-09-2002, 08:00 PM

I smell horror movie:

Attack Of The Ice Zombies!

edmo · 07-09-2002, 09:43 PM

I would get frozen. I think that with the rapid increases in medical technology and understanding of how brain/body work that being "brought back to life" from suspended animation will eventually be accomplished. Simple things like sperm are frozen, thawed and used all the time in the medical community. Scientists have suspended fish and brought them back. One of the big problems with cryogenics is that different parts need to freeze before other parts so they don't destroy other tissue/cells. I would imagine that with nanotechnology it will soon be possible to make specialized molecules to overcome this problem. There's also been some amazing work done with monkey head transplants. And cloning is probably going to be perfected at some point as well. Implying that when these various fields get reasonably developed it would be feasible to thaw out your brain, transplant it onto an exact clone of your body and then regrow connective tissues. The benefit is worth the cost/risk.

The Navy Program:
http://www.safar.pitt.edu/suspend.html

Monkey Head Transplant:
http://www.cosmiverse.com/science04110105.html

Differentiated Freezing Problem:
http://communications.uvic.ca/Ring/9.../freezing.html

Fish in Suspended Animation:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/1388622.stm

Stem Cells to Reconnect Nerve Tissue:
http://www.namiscc.org/newsletters/D...l-research.htm

foe · 07-09-2002, 09:51 PM

Actually freezing is complete bull becuase water in your body crystalizes and destroys the cells.

Cheshire · 07-09-2002, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by foe
Actually freezing is complete bull becuase water in your body crystalizes and destroys the cells.

So Walt Disney isn't coming back?

Ace-Ace · 07-09-2002, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mjrools23

then stop taking pills and medication when u get sick

Agreed.

edmo · 07-09-2002, 09:56 PM

"Cell systems can be kept indefinitely at low temperatures [-196° C]," he explains. "We can preserve skin, corneas (for transplantation), and tissues that produce hormones. Strains of cells of parasitic, drug-resistant diseases can be kept in their pre-mutation state so scientists can build a profile of their genetic changes."

What can't be frozen, according to Ashwood-Smith, is an entire living system although frogs can be partially frozen for several weeks."

http://communications.uvic.ca/Ring/9.../freezing.html

D_Nell · 07-09-2002, 09:58 PM

Mother Nature has balance! This would fuck everything up. Plus us living to the age of 140 is ridiculous too. Maybe thats why there are cures for cancer and aids but this is governments way of population control! But thats another topic!

Gutterboy · 07-09-2002, 10:08 PM

The problem with this that people don't think about is, who is it that is being revived?

First we'll ditch the "soul" as an unecessary hypothesis. Your "self", your personality, your long and short term memory, your neuroses, the way you react to stimuli, your emotions - everything you mean when you say "I" - are the result of a fabulously intricate network of neurons, neurotransmitting chemicals, and synapses which have been conditioned by your genetics, socialization, years of lifestyle choices, memory accumulation, and so forth. Even if a way could be found to prevent destruction of the cells themselves, freezing the brain destroys these billions of delicate chemical connections, the receptors for neurotransmitters, synapses, and so forth.

Even if you could "reanimate" a frozen body, which seems very unlikely in the first place, it would be like rebooting a computer after wiping off the operating system. You might have a self sustaining heartbeat, warmth, measurable brainwaves, but it probably wouldn't be you in any meaningful sense of the term.

Machine · 07-09-2002, 10:27 PM

I want to be frozen, woken up in 100 years, then Im gonna go on a killing spree.

jojojo · 07-10-2002, 12:01 AM

Whoa Gutterboy - were you a scientist before?

Check this out - Imagine if you were to get yourself frozen and then be revived in 200 years only to find out you had to be a slave or some other hellsih situation :-(

quiet · 07-10-2002, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gutterboy
The problem with this that people don't think about is, who is it that is being revived?

First we'll ditch the "soul" as an unecessary hypothesis. Your "self", your personality, your long and short term memory, your neuroses, the way you react to stimuli, your emotions - everything you mean when you say "I" - are the result of a fabulously intricate network of neurons, neurotransmitting chemicals, and synapses which have been conditioned by your genetics, socialization, years of lifestyle choices, memory accumulation, and so forth. Even if a way could be found to prevent destruction of the cells themselves, freezing the brain destroys these billions of delicate chemical connections, the receptors for neurotransmitters, synapses, and so forth.

Even if you could "reanimate" a frozen body, which seems very unlikely in the first place, it would be like rebooting a computer after wiping off the operating system. You might have a self sustaining heartbeat, warmth, measurable brainwaves, but it probably wouldn't be you in any meaningful sense of the term.

great post. i think along the same lines.

MONTE_CRISTO · 07-10-2002, 07:28 AM

Guys, guys, guys....

I just dont fucking get this shit... will someone please explain it to me???

They said that they freeze you up AFTER you are dead. They dont freeze you up when you are still fucking around and alive. YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD!!! So what the fuck have you got to loose?

If scientists do figure out a way to revive you, than great - you won the bet.
But if they dont, then you were FUCKING DEAD in the first place!

And besides, if you are revived after all, you get to experience the fucking future and their new fucking technology. Who knows, maybe they'll have some cool computer games, some new cool ways to have sex etc.

I dont have the fucking

to freeze myself up after I am fucking dead, but if I could afford it, I would definitely freeze myself up... and maybe, just maybe, I will get revived one day!!!

Platinum Tony · 07-10-2002, 07:35 AM

A bit scary for me
I'd be afraid that they would use my frozen body in
some Russian freakshow in Siberia

Come see the Popsicle Man. Ha Ha

xxxChamp · 07-10-2002, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
u shouldnt fuck with mother nature.

OR - shouldnt let mother nature fuck with u

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did that make any sence ??????

titmowse · 07-10-2002, 11:16 AM

i would like it if they could just throw my body into the back forty of some poor farmer's suffering crop. unfortunately, they won't let me do that. they gotta drain all my blood and fill me full of embalming fluid whether i'm buried or cremated. i guess i'll opt for cremation as i see burial/caskets to be a waste of space and money.

as far as all of my stuff, i've told my loved ones that i shall leave behind a box of matches and a can of gasoline. i've sifted through the earthly possessions of two deceased parents. it's not fun.

Scootermuze · 07-10-2002, 12:02 PM

This kinda throws a wrench in the machine...

If someone dies of a heart attack.. they're dead.. giving them a new heart after they're dead does no good, so why would this be any different?

I don't see this Dr. Frankenstein theory doing anything but taking people's money.

Scootermuze · 07-10-2002, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse
i guess i'll opt for cremation as i see burial/caskets to be a waste of space and money.

Agreed...
Think I'll have em burn me, throw me in a coffee can, and bury me with some post hole diggers..

Eric · 07-10-2002, 12:08 PM

Only if I can be frozen like in Vanilla Sky. Constant dream state works for me!

Gutterboy · 07-10-2002, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse
i would like it if they could just throw my body into the back forty of some poor farmer's suffering crop. unfortunately, they won't let me do that. they gotta drain all my blood and fill me full of embalming fluid whether i'm buried or cremated. i guess i'll opt for cremation as i see burial/caskets to be a waste of space and money.

I've always liked the idea of burial at sea for much the same reasons. Wrap the body in a white sheet, add a weight, and toss. I find the notion of embalming, $10,000 caskets, expensive headstones etc to be dowright grotesque, besides being an unhealthy way to mourn imo.

I'd rather my survivors buy themselves something nice, donate the money to a worthwhile cause in my memory, or better yet, use it for a memorial pub crawl.

SykkBoy · 07-10-2002, 01:42 PM

I wanna be buried in one of these bad boys

sexpress · 07-10-2002, 02:36 PM

I would do it if I have the money. Who knows, maybe it works...

07-09-2002, 07:07 PM	#1
Cappy Canucklehead Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 85	How many of you would have your bodies frozen after death This is back in the news again . Forty-nine people have decided to freeze themselves at the Alcor facility in Arizona. Yes, they've had themselves frozen. There are four people in each of those vats -- really, truly, four people in each of those vats being suspended upside down. The aim is that some day there will be a cure for whatever killed them and that they would be cured and revived. I think this is a bloody scam. Once you are dead you are dead-and you will never be able to be brought back. It would be nice if man can achieve this technology, but I have my doubts. There are of course, other isues, like the expanding world population as well.

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edmo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SanHo Posts: 359	I would get frozen. I think that with the rapid increases in medical technology and understanding of how brain/body work that being "brought back to life" from suspended animation will eventually be accomplished. Simple things like sperm are frozen, thawed and used all the time in the medical community. Scientists have suspended fish and brought them back. One of the big problems with cryogenics is that different parts need to freeze before other parts so they don't destroy other tissue/cells. I would imagine that with nanotechnology it will soon be possible to make specialized molecules to overcome this problem. There's also been some amazing work done with monkey head transplants. And cloning is probably going to be perfected at some point as well. Implying that when these various fields get reasonably developed it would be feasible to thaw out your brain, transplant it onto an exact clone of your body and then regrow connective tissues. The benefit is worth the cost/risk. The Navy Program: http://www.safar.pitt.edu/suspend.html Monkey Head Transplant: http://www.cosmiverse.com/science04110105.html Differentiated Freezing Problem: http://communications.uvic.ca/Ring/9.../freezing.html Fish in Suspended Animation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/1388622.stm Stem Cells to Reconnect Nerve Tissue: http://www.namiscc.org/newsletters/D...l-research.htm

07-09-2002, 09:51 PM	#9
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	Actually freezing is complete bull becuase water in your body crystalizes and destroys the cells.

07-09-2002, 09:56 PM	#12
edmo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SanHo Posts: 359	"Cell systems can be kept indefinitely at low temperatures [-196° C]," he explains. "We can preserve skin, corneas (for transplantation), and tissues that produce hormones. Strains of cells of parasitic, drug-resistant diseases can be kept in their pre-mutation state so scientists can build a profile of their genetic changes." What can't be frozen, according to Ashwood-Smith, is an entire living system although frogs can be partially frozen for several weeks." http://communications.uvic.ca/Ring/9.../freezing.html

07-09-2002, 10:08 PM	#14
Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	The problem with this that people don't think about is, who is it that is being revived? First we'll ditch the "soul" as an unecessary hypothesis. Your "self", your personality, your long and short term memory, your neuroses, the way you react to stimuli, your emotions - everything you mean when you say "I" - are the result of a fabulously intricate network of neurons, neurotransmitting chemicals, and synapses which have been conditioned by your genetics, socialization, years of lifestyle choices, memory accumulation, and so forth. Even if a way could be found to prevent destruction of the cells themselves, freezing the brain destroys these billions of delicate chemical connections, the receptors for neurotransmitters, synapses, and so forth. Even if you could "reanimate" a frozen body, which seems very unlikely in the first place, it would be like rebooting a computer after wiping off the operating system. You might have a self sustaining heartbeat, warmth, measurable brainwaves, but it probably wouldn't be you in any meaningful sense of the term. Last edited by Gutterboy; 07-09-2002 at 10:12 PM..

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07-10-2002, 07:28 AM	#18
MONTE_CRISTO Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 66	Guys, guys, guys.... I just dont fucking get this shit... will someone please explain it to me??? They said that they freeze you up AFTER you are dead. They dont freeze you up when you are still fucking around and alive. YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD!!! So what the fuck have you got to loose? If scientists do figure out a way to revive you, than great - you won the bet. But if they dont, then you were FUCKING DEAD in the first place! And besides, if you are revived after all, you get to experience the fucking future and their new fucking technology. Who knows, maybe they'll have some cool computer games, some new cool ways to have sex etc. I dont have the fucking to freeze myself up after I am fucking dead, but if I could afford it, I would definitely freeze myself up... and maybe, just maybe, I will get revived one day!!! __________________ ... just can't decide which babe to fuck... I got so many...

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titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	i would like it if they could just throw my body into the back forty of some poor farmer's suffering crop. unfortunately, they won't let me do that. they gotta drain all my blood and fill me full of embalming fluid whether i'm buried or cremated. i guess i'll opt for cremation as i see burial/caskets to be a waste of space and money. as far as all of my stuff, i've told my loved ones that i shall leave behind a box of matches and a can of gasoline. i've sifted through the earthly possessions of two deceased parents. it's not fun. __________________ I still love everybody

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Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	This kinda throws a wrench in the machine... If someone dies of a heart attack.. they're dead.. giving them a new heart after they're dead does no good, so why would this be any different? I don't see this Dr. Frankenstein theory doing anything but taking people's money.

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