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Old 11-03-2006, 04:59 AM   #1
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14 Tips to Speed Up Your Web Pages.

good read for everybody... not only noobs...
http://marcelo.sampasite.com/brave-t...ur-Web-Pag.htm
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Old 11-03-2006, 05:11 AM   #2
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The page telling you how to speed up your web pages, actually took quite a while to load.
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Old 11-03-2006, 05:17 AM   #3
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Old 11-03-2006, 05:58 AM   #4
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The page telling you how to speed up your web pages, actually took quite a while to load.
exactly! 12 seconds here
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:35 AM   #5
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yeah, i noticed too...
damn slow, but still worth...
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:51 AM   #6
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always nice to know these things. thanks for sharing
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:10 AM   #7
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That guy's a fucking moron.

First sign he's a moron: he starts his article by saying " There is a ton of research on user behavior based on task response time and I'm sure if you search Jakob Nielsen's site you'll find something."

Jakob Nielsen is a hack. Anyone who cites him as a reference for Usability is an idiot.



"Tip #2: Don't use XHMTL" - then his reasoning is completely retarded and wrong. The reason not to use XHTML is because most people do not serve XHTML properly - and when they do serve it properly, IE chokes on it

"Tip #4: Keep JavaScript Small" - no, dickhead how about this: link to your javascript instead of embedding it into the page. That way, the user's browser retrieves the external script from cache for each new page view.

"Tip #8: Avoid Tables (or use fixed-layout tables)" - and yet he uses tables. And WTF does a fixed layout table have to do with speed?

"Tip #11: Reduce the number of external elements" - completely moronic and backwards. EVERYTHING that is reused across the site, such as CSS or Javascript should be separated from the pages so that the files can be pulled from browser cache. That saves the browser from having parse the same shit over and over. This is the exactly the purpose of caching.

Pure FUD
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:15 AM   #8
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That guy's a fucking moron.

First sign he's a moron: he starts his article by saying " There is a ton of research on user behavior based on task response time and I'm sure if you search Jakob Nielsen's site you'll find something."

Jakob Nielsen is a hack. Anyone who cites him as a reference for Usability is an idiot.



"Tip #2: Don't use XHMTL" - then his reasoning is completely retarded and wrong. The reason not to use XHTML is because most people do not serve XHTML properly - and when they do serve it properly, IE chokes on it

"Tip #4: Keep JavaScript Small" - no, dickhead how about this: link to your javascript instead of embedding it into the page. That way, the user's browser retrieves the external script from cache for each new page view.

"Tip #8: Avoid Tables (or use fixed-layout tables)" - and yet he uses tables. And WTF does a fixed layout table have to do with speed?

"Tip #11: Reduce the number of external elements" - completely moronic and backwards. EVERYTHING that is reused across the site, such as CSS or Javascript should be separated from the pages so that the files can be pulled from browser cache. That saves the browser from having parse the same shit over and over. This is the exactly the purpose of caching.

Pure FUD
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:18 AM   #9
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:20 AM   #10
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The page telling you how to speed up your web pages, actually took quite a while to load.
Perhaps they are on slow server
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:37 AM   #11
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:15 AM   #12
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hmmm doesmt make sense
but it wont hurt to try
thanks for sharing
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:23 AM   #13
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page loaded quick for me >2 secs but the tips are a bit outdated
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:32 AM   #14
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no sense at all
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:32 AM   #15
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outdated indeed.... googling for " speed up web pages " will give better result.. ermm i guess..
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:34 AM   #16
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Err this document is totally not giving you any tips... Please dont follow up thiss...
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:54 AM   #17
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Heres my tips
forget graphics and use wingdings

Most over looked font out there!
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:13 AM   #18
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I'm always surprised when I look at some large website HTML to find out that it has a ton of unnecessary spaces, tabs, new-lines, HTML comments, etc. Just removing those elements can reduce the page size by 5-10%, which in turn can decrease the download latency.
5-10%????? WTF is he serving? Maybe if it google.com was his homepage, fair enough...

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This actually works in conjunction with HTTP compression. Remember that this type of compression is lossless, this is, decompressing a content will yield the exactly original, which means that the compression algorithm will treat "DIV", "Div" and "div" as different streams. So, always use lower case for tag names and attributes on the HTML and CSS. Also try to be consistent on your JavaScript.
OK, I just converted a 5133KB document to uppercase - it became 5135KB -gain of 0.04% on 5MB doesn't really justify it!

Still I did learn something:

Tip #5: Use Public Caching:
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3) Implement an HTTP Filter that automatically renames the file if they have changed.

That's actually pretty neat.
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:16 AM   #19
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lol...indeed...
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:42 AM   #21
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I still can't get over what an imbecile this guy is.
If each character represents 7-bits, you need to strip out a SHITLOAD of whitespace before you make any noticeable difference in download size.

In fact, a better (related) piece of advice would be to eliminate tables for layout and use CSS. I once did a cleanup of a site for [very large US Government agency] which used tables that were nested 7-deep and had over 100 spacer images for their basic site template. It was nearly 200kb in markup alone. I trimmed it own to 14kb using a new CSS layout and the site looked 100% the same.
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