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Robocop Jesus and Lord Archiot for starters. Also that one guy that lives in Liverpool.

Seriously, you think a 2 liter Honda motor can outrun a Lambo? And a Hayabuse TWIN turbo? Not just a single turbo? Not a stock Busa, but the TWIN turbo?

that tells me that i shouldn't argue with police....

Nice. Is that the new LP640? Italy will be jealous hehe

haha I don't get it I must be blind.

The driver, is one lucky bastard :p

pimp cars...damn

the owner of the lambo and the owner of th at "fictional" year old website was like a brother at that time.

i was with him when he bought the car 500km away from our hometown.

and i drove behind him when the accident happened and was the one who got him out of the wreck.

after that accident he started his researchs and it is stomach turning how many owners of lamborghinis we found who were unhappy with their car due to countless technical errors.

and the rims were accepted by the german "TÜV" which means they are at least as good as the original ones.

Gotta keep up with the jones... per say ;)

you shouldn't make comment like those Minte :disgust

Minte you are totally wrong on this one.

yep...

also this website is updated regulary and its only a FACTS stated there...

otherwise lambo would have taken it down long ago

You mean true and accurate ones?
The car had aftermarket rims...and there hasn't been any litigation.

The fact that I am a lambo owner and overall car enthusiast doesn't give me any agenda.Where the author of that site clearly does have an agenda.
For unknown reasons,he lost control of his car.
If he has a case it should go to trial.What happened in that accident isn't rocket science.There are thousands of very competent structural engineers and metallurgists that would easily testify against Lamborghini if there was actually something attributable to manufacturing error.

My point is that after a while,that website got to be a joke among truely knowledgeable car people.It isn't going to persuade anyone to sell their Lamborghini and it's not going to keep anyone new from wanting or buying one.

Even great drivers get killed from time to time when they are pushing the limits of high-performance automobiles.It's a shame when it does happen,but it will always be that way.

why did you avoid to respond to what i said?

I avoided nothing,you stated he had aftermarket rims..I already knew that.

Countless technical errors? Come to any of the Lamborghini boards,ask around at how many owners are dissatisfied with the quality.My Lamborghini has been a fantastic car to own for the first year.I have over 5,000 miles on it and it hasn't had any issues at all.

Then finally is the driver an engineer or a metallurgist?

Has the case gone to court?

How much money did he receive from the factory?

a nice polic promo

aftermarkets rims have nothing to do with the accident

car enthusiast ? he was lambo owner just like you untill the accident

what if i'll call all your "truely knowledgeable car people" a JOKE ?

I'm not sure if it isn't going to persuade anyone to sell their Lamborghini and it's not going to keep anyone new from wanting or buying one. Possibly it's already happened , I don't know as I don't have any facts to operate with , but let me ask how can YOU be so sure about this one ?

the car wasn't pushing any limits , in fact it's crashed at about 68% of maximum speed

well , the owner of the website is notified about this thread , I'm sure if he will find some time and willing , he will be able to explain things better then I would do...

:winkwink:

I will respond again to GBJ.. The way I read it,he was following the new owner home with the car. How far into the 500km trip home did this accident occur? He had little to no experience driving a Lamborghini at 68%(140mph).
The car did have after aftermarket rims..Lambo does not recognize aftermarket parts.It will void the warranty in case of a failure.BTW...Porsche does the same thing with the CGT..NO aftermarket rims.The German TUV,doesn't manufacture or sell Lamborghini,Ferrari or Porsche.

You are entitled to call knowledgeable Lamborghini owners and technicians whatever you'd like.The fact remains,they are owners and experienced people with these cars.They know what they are talking about.

Again,
Is the driver of the accident car an engineer or a metallurgist?

Has the case gone to court?

Has Lamborghini settled with a financial reward?

if thats real why would they need a lambo in london the traffic moves at 20mph tops!

just have to head on them with a fine made american 1970's ford truck
would explode that car to dust

it did not occur on the drive home at all.

days later

and he had more then enough expirience driving heavy sport cars

dear minte,

i am glad that sofar you are happy with your gallardo and it hasnt had any issues yet. it is truly a beautiful and powerful car, however the diligence the people at lambo put at work when they are manufacturing a car like this is horrible. i've seen at least 5 different murcielagos and next to 15 gallardos from various owners and dealerships and like all of them had one or another issue. i am even told by friends who work at lamborghini dealerships that the new lp640 isnt really of better quality.
you know, there is a lemon in every car maker's bin, however your gallardo seems to be the only car that is not a lemon, to be honest.
i bet most of the people you call "knowledgable lamborghini owners" hardly EVER drive their car like it is meant to be driven. they are just happy that they own a lambo but nothing more. maybe they jerk off to it in the evenings.
i find it quite a bit strange that you call those people knowledgable.
i know a guy who was doing about 23000km on his murcielago in only a few months and really using the car, however NOT abusing it. then after that mileage his engine blew. only a fire extinguisher in a friend's car saved the murci from burning down. i could go on with lots of these stories.
my point is, that of course you wont find too many lamborghini bashers on lamborghini forums. simply because they dont go there.
you find them on sites like mine, in my guestbook etc. thats where they go. to sites where they can identify with their own experiences.
as i said, most people on lambo forums are just fans, some of them MAY really own one but hardly ever drive it. and if they drive it then they pull it out on a sunny sunday morning and do like 50miles at a speed of 50mph....

now to answer your questions:
i am NOT an engineer, however i have quite a bit of automobile and technical knowledge and i have had lots of engineers look over the accident.
also the accident didnt happen on the 500km travel GBJ mentioned back from where i purchased it but 3 days later on a sunny sunday afternoon.

the case was in court once because of "bodily injury caused by negligence" where i won because it was highly improbable or next to impossible that a driving mistake could have resulted in that kind of accident and skidmarks.

the case will probably soon be in court again because right now - about 2 weeks ago - i found the first thing where i may really be able to sue lambo for the first time. first the only thing i could do was to speculate on the cause of the accident and to show the poor quality it was built, now i got FACTS, facts confirmed by lamborghini president's right hand. i now KNOW that my car was faulty. the only thing i need now to win in court is an expert who examines the same type of car with the same failure and confirm that this was most likely the cause for my accident. and thats exactly what is being done right now.

of course lambo didnt settle with a financial reward at all, because that would be like a confession of their mistake. their mistake which will be proven in the end, believe me. i will not give up before i got this done.
and also believe me that i wouldnt make such a hassle about the story if i wasnt 1000000% sure that it was a failure with the car.

and as vlad already said: if not everything on my site would be 100% true and i wouldnt be able to prove what i am saying, then lambo would have taken my site down long ago, and believe me, there are MANY people who believe what i am telling and they make a huge way around lamborghini in the future.

regards,
Xato

First off Xato,
I am glad you survived that accident.There have been too many enthusiasts killed the last few years in their performance cars.Accidents have occurred with every make.
Whether the cause of your accident was driver experience,mechanical failure or after market parts will probably never be known for certain.The men I refer to are not just car owners.They are technicians,speedshop owners,aftermarket parts suppliers,racers and a few are engineers.
I know quite a few of them personally,because I do runs with them and others just from the boards.On one of the large car boards I am a member of there are hundreds of Lamborghini owners.Many of them drive their cars like I drive mine.The problems you speak of are few and far between.I agree,that every maker has a lemon from time to time.There is no debating that fact.
But the fact remains,your car was equipped with aftermarket rims.Whether you knew it at the time or not doesn't change the fact that all the exotic car manufacturers highly recommend NOT using them.And all will void a warranty if an owner decides to modify the car.
If you have a case against Lamborghini there is enough legal precedent against auto makers to justify a nice settlement for you if they are found guilty of building a substandard quality machine.However,to indict a manufacturer of one of the finest quality highperformace automobiles because of this one case is where I take exception.
A few years ago,BenLJ lost his life in his CarreraGT while on a racetrack.His widow has taken Porsche to court over it.If you are interested in following the details of that case let me know and I can point you in the right direction.

you might be wrong about the problem of finding out the cause of the accident. i thought so for a very long time but then suddenly i found something which would now totally explain the accident. i dont want to spill the beans yet, but i will let you know if the expert can confirm that this obviously was the reason for the crash and tell you about the fault.

i am also glad that you know so many lamborghini owners who dont know their cars just from looking at them, however i have made the experience that there is a extremely high number of "lemons" which simply isnt acceptable for me, last but not least because i almost lost my life because of that.

you know, if i werent totally convinced and 100% sure that it wasnt my fault, then i wouldnt have had the power and energy to put that website online and deal with all the hassle that comes with it. but the fact that i found so many different remarkable incidents with the cars of that manufacturer just confirmed my opinion that it is far from being a "manufacturer of one of the finest quality highperformace automobiles".

I know about the accident with the CarreraGT, thanks for pointing that out to me though.

thanks,
Xato

Beats those Opel's/Vauxhalls they drive here! :winkwink:

can u make the pink lawn flammingos?

the guy that has been making hem for 50 years is shutting down and i want some

:thumbsup

Actually yes we can.I saw that story and asked our VP of sales to look into either purchasing the tooling or getting it built new.
Those damn flamingos will always have a market!

Lucky policemen, how are they chosen as cars are limited

haha,looks funny,lol