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Old 07-08-2002, 11:29 PM   #1
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Aids vaccine in 3 years?

I really hope they come out with a vaccine for this..

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/Health/AIDS___HIV/
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Old 07-08-2002, 11:33 PM   #2
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I am waiting for some air born super aids type fucked up thing to happen, nature will take care of herself
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Old 07-09-2002, 03:50 AM   #3
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don't they say this about cancer also every other year? Soon we'll have a new, excellent remedy.....
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Old 07-09-2002, 04:01 AM   #4
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don't they say this about cancer also every other year? Soon we'll have a new, excellent remedy.....
Aren't they completely different?

AIDS is a virus spread through bodily fluids, while the causes of cancer are not definite.

They've already come out with a "cocktail" of drugs to prolong lives of HIV+ people and slow down the spread of the virus.
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Old 07-09-2002, 04:07 AM   #5
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... I wouldn´t be surprised if there would be vaccine available already.

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Old 07-09-2002, 05:07 PM   #6
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As Chris Rock said "They'll never cure AIDS, ain't no money in a cure, they make it so you can live with it so they can get ya on the comebacks"
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Old 07-09-2002, 05:20 PM   #7
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too much money in medication for aids... they will never release a cure... dont be a moron...hundred million dollar industry? paaa-lease ... anybody with aids,dont get your hopes up lol
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Old 07-09-2002, 05:31 PM   #8
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too much money in medication for aids... they will never release a cure... dont be a moron...hundred million dollar industry? paaa-lease ... anybody with aids,dont get your hopes up lol
It's a vaccine they're developing, not a cure.
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Old 07-09-2002, 05:41 PM   #9
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Persnally, I wouldn't want that vaccination in my bloodstream.

In 30+ years from now I doubt people will have a choice.
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Old 07-09-2002, 05:41 PM   #10
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Old 07-09-2002, 05:48 PM   #11
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It's a vaccine they're developing, not a cure.

same difference....aids will get wiped out eventually with a vaccine...government doesnt want that...1)they gave it out 2)look who the majority of HIV carriers are...government doesnt like them lol


There is already a vaccine and/or cure...HAS to be... there hasnt been a disease cured in like 50 years,why? because they saw the money was there and always will be...

can't cure a common cold but can put a man on the moon?...be for real
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Old 07-09-2002, 06:04 PM   #13
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All this conspiracy stuff sounds like it would make a cool novel.
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Old 07-09-2002, 06:18 PM   #15
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All this conspiracy stuff sounds like it would make a cool novel.
The number of people who actually believe that the big bad "medical industry" would hide or supress an AIDS vaccine never ceases to amaze me.

How many people would have to be in on that? Yeah, right...
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The number of people who actually believe that the big bad "medical industry" would hide or supress an AIDS vaccine never ceases to amaze me.

How many people would have to be in on that? Yeah, right...

so you think that if there was a vaccine or cure it would be known to the public? hmmm $15 for an HIV vaccine at birth OR hundreds of thousands of dollars a person in medication thruout a lifetime... which do you think the medical community would take?
maybe I'm wrong and there isn't a known cure but I know I'm right that if there was one,your ass wouldnt know about it...
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can't cure a common cold but can put a man on the moon?...be for real
Thats because "common cold" symptoms are caused by hundreds of slightly different viruses, with new variants appearing all the time. You would have to develop a vaccine for each of the hundreds of strains, innoculate everyone with all of those vaccines, and then create new ones for the new strains that appear every year. The common cold could be cured, but the return is not worth the stupendous investment of time, effort and money.

On second thoughts, feel free to completely ignore the preceeding paragraph. Conspiracy theories amuse me enough that I don't want to prevent any new ones that may be fermenting in your overactive imagination from coming to fruition.
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Old 07-09-2002, 06:48 PM   #18
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Thats because "common cold" symptoms are caused by hundreds of slightly different viruses, with new variants appearing all the time. You would have to develop a vaccine for each of the hundreds of strains, innoculate everyone with all of those vaccines, and then create new ones for the new strains that appear every year. The common cold could be cured, but the return is not worth the stupendous investment of time, effort and money.

just like terrorism.

except america is trying to take the stupendous investment of time, effort and money.

and viruses can be analyzed under a microscope.. fuckin terorrists are hiding so they can't be found
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just like terrorism.

except america is trying to take the stupendous investment of time, effort and money.

and viruses can be analyzed under a microscope.. fuckin terorrists are hiding so they can't be found
Alot of truth to that. It also applies to what appear to be the Bush administrations plans to oust Yassir Arafat and Saddam Hussein. What the hell do they think, once they give these two the boot a couple of Mother Teresa clones are going to sprout up and replace them? I saw a recent poll which revealed that 65-70% of the Palestinian public support suicide bombing. Sometimes the problem ain't the leaders.
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so you think that if there was a vaccine or cure it would be known to the public? hmmm $15 for an HIV vaccine at birth OR hundreds of thousands of dollars a person in medication thruout a lifetime... which do you think the medical community would take?
LMAO!

Do you even know what you are saying??? According to the 2000 census their were 281,421,906 people in the U.S. (and I'm only using the U.S. as an example) -- there is also one birth every 8 seconds.

31,536,000 seconds in a year / 8 * $15 == $5,913,000

That's a near $6MIL/year industry -- you think companies aren't busting their ass for that???

Compare that to the rates of infection and the people who can afford to spend "hundreds of thousands of dollars" on medication (in their lifetime) and I think you'll draw the obvious conclusion.



And that's only the U.S.
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LMAO!

Do you even know what you are saying??? According to the 2000 census their were 281,421,906 people in the U.S. (and I'm only using the U.S. as an example) -- there is also one birth every 8 seconds.

31,536,000 seconds in a year / 8 * $15 == $5,913,000

That's a near $6MIL/year industry -- you think companies aren't busting their ass for that???

Compare that to the rates of infection and the people who can afford to spend "hundreds of thousands of dollars" on medication (in their lifetime) and I think you'll draw the obvious conclusion.



And that's only the U.S.


what the fuck? 6 million dollars a year...you think doctors and scientist could all have their midrange 6 figure saleries?.... and people live in poverty their whole lives just to afford aids medication... easily tallies in the hundreds of millions just for medication alone... "LMAO" all ya want kid
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Old 07-09-2002, 07:37 PM   #22
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6$ million USD will buy you many yaks in Latvia, but I am sure Mr GFY makes this much monies.

AIDS is a virus, there has never before been a cure for any virus, is good propaganda if they make you to think that now they find cure for this virus.

They can not even find cure for computer virus
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Hmmm -- well let's see...

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BANGKOK, March 22 (AFP) - Thai health authorities said Friday they will
begin selling the world's cheapest anti-AIDS drug early next month for
less than a dollar a day, in a move applauded by activists.

The Government Pharmaceutical Organisation (GPO) is behind the first
locally produced anti-retroviral (ARV) "cocktail" which could end up
helping hundreds of thousands of HIV sufferers battle the virus which
causes AIDS.

The drug, called GPO-VIR, is a single pill combining Stavudine, Lamivudine
and Nevirapine, which are known to inhibit the production of HIV in the
body.

GPO director Thongchai Thavichachart told AFP his organisation produced a
successful initial batch of 120,000 tablets of the drug on March 18 and
will first market it at six GPO outlets in early April.

"We will sell it for 20 baht (46 US cents) per tablet, which is very
cheap," he said.

The dosage is set at two tablets per day, making the 1,200 baht (27
dollars) monthly cost the cheapest in the world, Thailand's public health
ministry said.

It would also slash Thailand's current lowest monthly cost of 2,500 baht
for ARVs by more than half.

The GPO aims to increase production to three million tablets per month
over the next six months to meet demand, Thongchai said.

He noted the GPO has successfully prescribed cocktails of the three
separate drugs for three years to more than 2,000 AIDS patients.

GPO, Bangkok's Mahidol University and the Department of Medical Science in
the health ministry are to submit a proposal for GPO-VIR testing on up to
16,000 HIV-AIDS patients, he said.

International group Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders -
MSF) welcomed GPO-VIR's launch and said it was considering buying the
drugs for use internationally.

"We have used GPO drugs on hundreds of patients in Thailand and we have no
reason to believe there is any problem with the quality of GPO-VIR," said
the Thailand director of MSF-France Yorgos Kapranis.

"Thailand is the only country in Southeast Asia that is producing
affordable generic drugs for AIDS patients," he added.

Thai AIDS activists also voiced their approval.

"This launching of the cocktail pill is a benefit on personal and national
levels," said Nimit Tien-udom, director of the AIDS Access Foundation.

A previous Thai concoction touted as a "miracle cure" for AIDS, V-1
Immunitor, was distributed last year to thousands of HIV patients in
Thailand before it was declared ineffective by the ministry of health.

Distribution of V-1 Immunitor touched off a storm of controversy among
AIDS activists and health officials.

Public Health Minister Sudarat Keyuraphan said in a statement the success
of GPO-VIR could reduce expenses for some 695,000 Thai HIV-AIDS patients,
some of whom have been paying up to 20,000 baht (460 dollars) monthly for
drugs.

An estimated one million of Thailand's 60 million people have been
infected with HIV, and one third of those have already died.

More than 180,000 Thais contracted HIV last year and some 68,000 developed
full-blown AIDS, according to the health ministry's AIDS division.

Thailand's vocal AIDS activists have long pressed the government for
anti-retroviral drugs and HIV treatment to be included in a public health
care scheme which allows patients to pay just 30 baht per hospital visit.

020322
AF020362

Cross-posted from AEGIS
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FRENCH: http://ww2.aegis.org/news/afp/2002/AF020362_FR.html
GERMAN: http://ww2.aegis.org/news/afp/2002/AF020362_DE.html
SPANISH: http://ww2.aegis.org/news/afp/2002/AF020362_ES.html
PORTUGUESE: http://ww2.aegis.org/news/afp/2002/AF020362_PT.html

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Less than $365 a year for the small percentage of infected people (again I'm talking about the U.S.) v. $15 (which is assininely low BTW) for the general population.

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