The Movers stole my laptop!! - GoFuckYourself.com

revbuddylove · 07-11-2002, 09:57 AM

I'm so mad I need to vent.....

I just moved and the movers stole my laptop and dropped my
Sony Wega TV.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

I feel a little better now.

Has anyone had this happen? Any advice on how to
get compensation?

TIA

-Rev.

payrollpete · 07-11-2002, 09:58 AM

sue? LOL

edmo · 07-11-2002, 09:58 AM

That fucking sucks bad. I would contact their management. I'm sure they have some sort of insurance policy that they can pay you out of.

revbuddylove · 07-11-2002, 10:00 AM

Yeah I talked to the national management company. And they were pretty sympathetic. But I get the feeling that they are going to brush me off and say that it is the local movers problem to solve. I'm waiting for a call back now.........

UnseenWorld · 07-11-2002, 10:00 AM

The moving biz is racket. If they do pay, it'll probably take so long you'll need to buy a replacement, anyway. And don't expect to get full new unit replacement value.

jreaka · 07-11-2002, 10:01 AM

Stomp a mud hole in them..............then call there boss!

gothweb · 07-11-2002, 10:01 AM

A lot of the time, they don't have to do anything unless they put it in the contract. Still, definitely worth calling up the management. Generally, if you bother to complain, you at least get something out of it.

wsjb78 · 07-11-2002, 10:03 AM

why did you actually let them touch your notebook?

it's like role-playing: No one touches my dice! No one touches my notebook!

payrollpete · 07-11-2002, 10:03 AM

they'll pay up or you take them to court

shit, movers dropped a $2500 mirror of mine, it was an antique, it broke, they gave me a cheque for $2500 a few weeks later

Jamdin · 07-11-2002, 10:34 AM

No one has touched my dice since I started role-playing for almost twenty years but my collection is small...

I wouldn't let anybody touch anything valuable or breakable including compters...

Good luck trying to get it resolved...

TaDoW · 07-11-2002, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
they'll pay up or you take them to court

shit, movers dropped a $2500 mirror of mine, it was an antique, it broke, they gave me a cheque for $2500 a few weeks later

will that work with WildOne?

B40 · 07-11-2002, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wsjb78
why did you actually let them touch your notebook?

Have to agree here. You could have moved the notebook yourself couldn't you? Hope it was p/w protected.

payrollpete · 07-11-2002, 10:41 AM

tadow,

if you lined your business deal up right yes.
i am a firm believer in doing everything with a contract, hell, i even ask them to scan their id next to the contract so that i can match signatures and confirm identity.

i have yet to be fucked.

TaDoW · 07-11-2002, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
tadow,

if you lined your business deal up right yes.
i am a firm believer in doing everything with a contract, hell, i even ask them to scan their id next to the contract so that i can match signatures and confirm identity.

i have yet to be fucked.

We've got a contract that he's violated in a plethora of ways ... :-)

plus we've got icq and email convrsation logs that serve a nice record for the collections..

and if that all fails.. hell .. he's only in everett, and they sell baseball bats fairly readily :-)

payrollpete · 07-11-2002, 10:47 AM

louisville slugger

they do the trick

wsjb78 · 07-11-2002, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamdin
No one has touched my dice since I started role-playing for almost twenty years but my collection is small...

What you're playing? (A)D&D? Vampire and/or Hunter? Ctulluh? Realms of Arkana? ...?

lawpal · 07-11-2002, 10:59 AM

1. Read your contract word for word. What exactly does it say about their liability?

2. Call them and demand the return of the labtop and money for the t.v. Tell them if they don't you will report the theft to the police, and that you will pursue them in civil court.

3. If you get no satisfaction or results from the phone call, then write them a letter, tell them what happened. Demand the return of the labtop and compensation for the TV, or compensation for both. Make sure to specify the amounts, and ask for the figures as if each were brand new. Tell them that if this issue is not resolved within 7 days that you will "pursue all legal remedies available at law, including, but not limited to, the possible filing of criminal claims against the company and their employees" for the theft of your personal property.

4. If you do not receive a satisactory result, sue. Either sue in small claims, depending where you are and whether you satisfy the money threshold for small claims, or sue them in district court (which just means the level above small claims court)(again, depending where you are).

I recommend that if you sue them for money that you use a lawyer. It will save you a big headache, and may freak them out and make them pay up quick.

Do it on a contingency basis because it is basically a collection matter and there are many lawyers who will do simple collection work for 1/3 of the amount collected, plus costs. Make sure to tell the lawyer that you will only pay 1/4 of the collection if he collects without going to trial. Most lawyers, if they are decent, will understand and work with you on this point.

Also, you can do some digging on your own to help your lawyer work fast to represent you. Get backround information on the company. Find out their corporate records. They are generally public info and available online. Contact the Better Business Bureau in your state and find out if they have had any complaints against them. Try to get a copy or any information you can if there are any complaints. Give all of this info, plus a copy of your contract to your lawyer, and it will help him to get a running start to get you quick results.

Hope this helps and that you get your stuff back.
That sucks big time. Movers are notorious. They have bad
reputations because generally they are crooks.

Good Luck

payrollpete · 07-11-2002, 11:01 AM

no

go to small claims court

you don't need a lawyer to handle this shit, just sue yourself

lawyer will cost you more money then your shit is worth LOL

wsjb78 · 07-11-2002, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
no

go to small claims court

you don't need a lawyer to handle this shit, just sue yourself

lawyer will cost you more money then your shit is worth LOL

Depends on what's on the notebook... he might have some really valuable stuff on it... and nowhere else a backup!

payrollpete · 07-11-2002, 11:06 AM

well
the data can always be recovered from the laptops drive so...

lawpal · 07-11-2002, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
no

go to small claims court

you don't need a lawyer to handle this shit, just sue yourself

lawyer will cost you more money then your shit is worth LOL

maybe, but if he has business information and/or records on his computer, and they are lost or damaged, or manipulated in a manner which causes him to lose profits, then, depending on the laws in the state he works in, a lawyer might be able to assist him to recover damages for his losses

it is unlikely, but you never know, and it never hurts to ask a lawyer during a free initial consultation if a claim exists and what its chances are

TaDoW · 07-11-2002, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
no

go to small claims court

you don't need a lawyer to handle this shit, just sue yourself

lawyer will cost you more money then your shit is worth LOL

we have an inhouse lawyer ... no biggie =)

payrollpete · 07-11-2002, 11:09 AM

tadow,

i was reffering to the laptop / tv situation

GTS Mark · 07-11-2002, 11:10 AM

Would this possibly fall under home insurance if the movers did not end up paying?

Something to think about.

DH

lawpal · 07-11-2002, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Would this possibly fall under home insurance if the movers did not end up paying?

Something to think about.

DH

good point - definitely worth examining, although the insurance policy probably has a nasty carve out to create an exception from coverage for movers

jimmyf · 07-11-2002, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lawpal

it is unlikely, but you never know, and it never hurts to ask a lawyer during a free initial consultation if a claim exists and what its chances are

In California I think this is true. When I was in the Scale business I changed my Northern California 800 number to a national number. I was in liked 20 to 30 phone books. $3,500.00+ per month. Well Pacbell never changed it. And my old number had no referral on it.. So I told Pacbell I want that old number and refer it to my new one. That
lasted for like 3 months and they took it off. This shit went on for 4 fucking years. So I just quit paying and talked to
a lawyer after they put there's on me. Mine told me it's almost impossible to prove what you did and would have
lost. The unpaid bill when there lawyer called was over $ 50,000.00... Long story short. Because I proved it was
there mistake and my Rep. still worked at Pacbell and backed me up, he ask me what I wanted to pay. I told him in
these words NOT A FUCKING THING. Never heard from them again.

Jamdin · 07-11-2002, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wsjb78

What you're playing? (A)D&D? Vampire and/or Hunter? Ctulluh? Realms of Arkana? ...?

I'm between games after loosing my group a few years ago. We used to be big D&D players. The only other player that lives close is spending 6 months overseas for being in the National Guards. When he gets back, he wants to start up a group again. I've been thinking of getting him hooked on Vampire or Cthulu

RockDaddy · 07-11-2002, 12:35 PM

dropped = civil
stolen = criminal

Call the police. You need to do that regardless because eventually it might turn up in a pawn shop. As long as you
have your serial numbers on file.

damac · 07-11-2002, 12:56 PM

I have no idea the laws on this stuff but I knew somebody who did their own freelance moving. Rented ryder trucks and took jobs, etc.

They specifically asked customers if they wanted to pay for optional insurance and a few of the local moving companies worked the same way. I guess this means they didn't cover freak accidents or whatever and they didn't guarantee their work.

Also I noticed lots of the workers were paid under the table and weren't really employees. Just guys who would show up and actually work.

So I don't know if a company that says they aren't responsible for accidents and damage, can get away with it legally even if the terms or know up front. It does seem kind of odd to have to pay for a workers mistake but it happens. And of course the theft is a completely different story.

TDF · 07-11-2002, 12:59 PM

I cant wait to see that episode of JUDGE JUDY!!

volante · 07-11-2002, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaDoW

and if that all fails.. hell .. he's only in everett, and they sell baseball bats fairly readily :-)

Don't get a baseball bat, hunt around and get a cricket bat - most Americans don't know what it is, so they get confused and forget to duck when you swing it at them

wsjb78 · 07-11-2002, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamdin

I'm between games after loosing my group a few years ago. We used to be big D&D players. The only other player that lives close is spending 6 months overseas for being in the National Guards. When he gets back, he wants to start up a group again. I've been thinking of getting him hooked on Vampire or Cthulu

That's cool... we play about every week D&D 3rd edition... been playing once Cthulluh but was somehow nice... als started a bit on ShadowRun... :o)

07-11-2002, 09:57 AM	#1
revbuddylove Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In the hizouse... Posts: 402	The Movers stole my laptop!! I'm so mad I need to vent..... I just moved and the movers stole my laptop and dropped my Sony Wega TV. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! I feel a little better now. Has anyone had this happen? Any advice on how to get compensation? TIA -Rev. __________________ -Rev. Buddy Love Code Monkey at Adult.com

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revbuddylove Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In the hizouse... Posts: 402	Yeah I talked to the national management company. And they were pretty sympathetic. But I get the feeling that they are going to brush me off and say that it is the local movers problem to solve. I'm waiting for a call back now......... __________________ -Rev. Buddy Love Code Monkey at Adult.com

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lawpal Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 824	1. Read your contract word for word. What exactly does it say about their liability? 2. Call them and demand the return of the labtop and money for the t.v. Tell them if they don't you will report the theft to the police, and that you will pursue them in civil court. 3. If you get no satisfaction or results from the phone call, then write them a letter, tell them what happened. Demand the return of the labtop and compensation for the TV, or compensation for both. Make sure to specify the amounts, and ask for the figures as if each were brand new. Tell them that if this issue is not resolved within 7 days that you will "pursue all legal remedies available at law, including, but not limited to, the possible filing of criminal claims against the company and their employees" for the theft of your personal property. 4. If you do not receive a satisactory result, sue. Either sue in small claims, depending where you are and whether you satisfy the money threshold for small claims, or sue them in district court (which just means the level above small claims court)(again, depending where you are). I recommend that if you sue them for money that you use a lawyer. It will save you a big headache, and may freak them out and make them pay up quick. Do it on a contingency basis because it is basically a collection matter and there are many lawyers who will do simple collection work for 1/3 of the amount collected, plus costs. Make sure to tell the lawyer that you will only pay 1/4 of the collection if he collects without going to trial. Most lawyers, if they are decent, will understand and work with you on this point. Also, you can do some digging on your own to help your lawyer work fast to represent you. Get backround information on the company. Find out their corporate records. They are generally public info and available online. Contact the Better Business Bureau in your state and find out if they have had any complaints against them. Try to get a copy or any information you can if there are any complaints. Give all of this info, plus a copy of your contract to your lawyer, and it will help him to get a running start to get you quick results. Hope this helps and that you get your stuff back. That sucks big time. Movers are notorious. They have bad reputations because generally they are crooks. Good Luck Last edited by lawpal; 07-11-2002 at 11:03 AM..

07-11-2002, 09:58 AM	#2
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	sue? LOL

07-11-2002, 09:58 AM	#3
edmo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SanHo Posts: 359	That fucking sucks bad. I would contact their management. I'm sure they have some sort of insurance policy that they can pay you out of.

07-11-2002, 10:01 AM	#6
jreaka Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,096	Stomp a mud hole in them..............then call there boss!

07-11-2002, 10:03 AM	#8
wsjb78 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyberspace Posts: 594	why did you actually let them touch your notebook? it's like role-playing: No one touches my dice! No one touches my notebook!

07-11-2002, 10:34 AM	#10
Jamdin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,560	No one has touched my dice since I started role-playing for almost twenty years but my collection is small... I wouldn't let anybody touch anything valuable or breakable including compters... Good luck trying to get it resolved...

07-11-2002, 10:41 AM	#13
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	tadow, if you lined your business deal up right yes. i am a firm believer in doing everything with a contract, hell, i even ask them to scan their id next to the contract so that i can match signatures and confirm identity. i have yet to be fucked.

07-11-2002, 10:47 AM	#15
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	louisville slugger they do the trick

07-11-2002, 11:01 AM	#18
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	no go to small claims court you don't need a lawyer to handle this shit, just sue yourself lawyer will cost you more money then your shit is worth LOL

07-11-2002, 11:06 AM	#20
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	well the data can always be recovered from the laptops drive so...

07-11-2002, 11:09 AM	#23
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	tadow, i was reffering to the laptop / tv situation

07-11-2002, 11:10 AM	#24
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Would this possibly fall under home insurance if the movers did not end up paying? Something to think about. DH

07-11-2002, 12:35 PM	#28
RockDaddy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 750	dropped = civil stolen = criminal Call the police. You need to do that regardless because eventually it might turn up in a pawn shop. As long as you have your serial numbers on file.

07-11-2002, 12:56 PM	#29
damac Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 81	I have no idea the laws on this stuff but I knew somebody who did their own freelance moving. Rented ryder trucks and took jobs, etc. They specifically asked customers if they wanted to pay for optional insurance and a few of the local moving companies worked the same way. I guess this means they didn't cover freak accidents or whatever and they didn't guarantee their work. Also I noticed lots of the workers were paid under the table and weren't really employees. Just guys who would show up and actually work. So I don't know if a company that says they aren't responsible for accidents and damage, can get away with it legally even if the terms or know up front. It does seem kind of odd to have to pay for a workers mistake but it happens. And of course the theft is a completely different story.

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