Sagi : i met him on some tradeshows recently. I was talking to some client and he just came in the conversation, start to talk with my client, saying whatever to get noticed from him, etc...

So i do not know if he threatens you of anything, but as far as i am concerned, here is a little message to Sagi :
1 - Learn how to behave before going to tradeshows.
2 - Learn that business is all about education and respect.
3 - and apparently according to what other people say, learn how to talk to your clients or partners

No joke man, you seriously pissed me off doing that...
Fortunately i did not loose my client but still, that's all about education.
You have it or you don't.
When you don't, you normally don't last long

:pimp .....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh !!

i hope AFF sues the shit out of you for slander


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this i would like to see please.


this zango shit sucks. its almost as bad as those SE people that were paying yahoo to redirect your TLD type ins on yahoo searches.

bump for more drama on gfy

This is a very good point :thumbsup

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

This is not slander he is asking a question and it does not seem like he is getting a reply if aff had nothing to hide or cover up they would have joined in on this disscution:2 cents:

why not block access to aff through zango! This is just a guess but are aff sites not trademarks therefore you could disalow zango to use keywords like cams.com or aff

"You are well advised to drop it"

Reads like a threat to me.

I wonder what the consequences will be if you don't? :D

I provide goods and services to adult and mainstream webmasters. I have my own program. The only time I have sent sales to others is when I dabbled with my blogs. It was for fun and experimentation. I may have made 5 blog entries about AFF, and one or two about SexSearch. Neither of them are programs that my bank account would notice if they disappeared today.

For the most part, I push tangible products, and my own stuff, not other people's programs.

and so on.

Baddog resells 2nd rate hosting. Pretty simple.

you don't think it effects you? maybe not directly but it effects your clients which could have an effect on you eventually when this biz becomes less and less profitable.

You're a fucking idiot.

i honeslty never knew how much drama there would be when i joined AFF lol

Dating Gold FTW!#%

that would be something. They sue me for saying the truth but they don't sue zango for infringing on their trademark. :upsidedow

this is a traffic and sales hijacking by AFF/cams.com/sexsearch.com

I mentioned this to Lars weeks ago. He said that it would be too expensive and be a waste of time to sue them but that he would pass it along to his legal staff. If this is the same guys who wrote their statement about zango then I don't have much faith in them. I would fire the person who wrote that letter. crap.

AFF knows they can sue 180solutions, i sent him Gator cases from a couple years ago where Gator was sued for the exact same thing and settled. It is an open shut case.

So the 100million dollar company does not want to spend a few dollars to protect their trademark. This tells me this is just another excuse, so if they keep giving all these excuses why they wont stop, apparently they don't want to stop.

/in walks baddog

apparently they have already started :1orglaugh

As more and more spyware infects computers, more and more sales will be lost to your customers. At some point, their profit will be eaten away to the point they go out of business. We are not close to that point yet as zango only takes about 1 - 2% of people's traffic but that is just them. They are gaining groud everyday. If this keeps up spyware could be taking 30 - 50% of your sales in the future. If you don't think this affects you, then you are a fool.

I don't understand how you have no biased opinions or affiliations here but yet you are 100% on the opposite side of the issue with this?
SO you think it doesn't affect you now, so you want to see the rest us of us get fucked then. I am sure your customers, present and future, are glad to hear that.

Ok we call it stealling you guys call it " adware collisions" and "unintended side effects of adware advertising".

And according to Zango AFF screws their affiliates :




Zango calls it "potential conflict" we call it stealing.

Did that clear it up for you Young Jedi.

"if you dont care Zango, the terrorists win"
- George Bush 2006

hush.....

i will quietly place my sig here

There's 1999 dotcom VC fluff if I've ever heard it... :1orglaugh

I would like to apologize to everyone , I am nothing but a ass that spends too much time worrying about other peoples business.

I cant make sales so I look to find a excuse for it. There have been many install companies and I could easily have blamed them , but I am a twit so please forgive me. I must go now I have to start my shift at Burger King

Have fun explaining this in court room

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:1orglaugh :1orglaugh So basically you do......... nothing? Sounds like a bunch of steam and bullshit to me. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Too expensive ? I don't think so...I'm quite sure they have more money than we do and we can handle doing it just fine. :2 cents:

More likely, others who hold trademarks might just be waiting until someone does it first...to see what the result fo that is. I just hope everyone remembers when its all said and done who the FIRST was and don't all bandwagon hop :upsidedow

There are plenty of professional ways Lars could deal with this and other unethical areas of this industry. But every time such an issue arises, he chooses not to. Draw your own conclusions as to what this says about him.

I just wish that if this topic isn't going to be allowed to die, it would finally take on some focus and direction. The finger-pointing is getting a little old and achieved all it is going to achieve a while back.

Jayeff, the answer given, way down deep, all decoded, all the froo-froo removed is:

"everyone else is doing it, so we are doing it too!".

It is a piss poor excuse.

Just because you are too dumb to see that what I am saying has already been said by AFF and Zango themselves, doesn;t mean they are dumb to this fact. I am sure their attorney can see that what I am saying is not only fact but was admitted by both parties. They may not like the word I use "Stealing" and they may prefer to stick with "unavoidable collisions" .

When something is unavoidable that means they had no choice. AFF could have not participated in the adware buying then there would have been no collisions to avoid.

Let me explain it in terms that you can understand.

Someone says " I have to borrow something from you and I wont give it back". I say you are stealing. it's the same thing, they just like the way it sounds with their PR spin on it.

Awesome to hear. When a company that makes 100+ MILLION a year tells you it is too expensive to protect their trademark you know they are full of shit. That is what they have a team of attornies for. So it cost you a day's worth of profit to clear your name, do the right thing, and stop a company from infringing on your trademark..... too expensive. I guess when you are greedy you would rather be dirty and make a few dollars more and certainly wouldn't want to spend money unless you absolutly had too.

Keep us posted Various.

At the end of the day I think things will shake out right. The good companies will be seperated from the bad. :2 cents:

Who gives a shit what will76 looks like? Why attack the messenger? Attack the assholes who are stealing from their affiliates.

SaggyFace and Legendary Liar are scum in this biz, and are just helping to cause more bad exposure to the biz as a whole. They should both be put in jail and ALL assets ever earned siezed.:2 cents:

Really? Has anyone tested gotwebhost or your other sites to see if any Zango ads are popping up? Only a matter of time.