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Trixxxia 10-29-2006 04:06 PM

I don't understand why you're not getting a link so give me a few while I install your 'setup' on another server and test to see what your issue is.

Jace 10-29-2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia (Post 11185001)
I don't understand why you're not getting a link so give me a few while I install your 'setup' on another server and test to see what your issue is.

don't do that, give me a sec...I will push the link through and show you

just a punk 10-29-2006 04:14 PM

Real Bucks (see sig) has the outstanding RSS feeds with hosted content (pictures and movies) for every niche!

Jace 10-29-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia (Post 11185001)
I don't understand why you're not getting a link so give me a few while I install your 'setup' on another server and test to see what your issue is.

here you go:
http://babes.adailyfix.com/

Jace 10-29-2006 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 11184993)
Actually Jace, that feed is a non valid RSS feed, (they broke the scope using <category>

they can use <category> but should be in it's own namespace..
i.e <TGP:category>blah</TGP:category>
this is so the defination of category is understood by all and not misconstrued

I created a TGP namespace to be used (and we can work on perfecting it, anyone who wants to contribute)
http://adlt.net/TGPChannelModule/

if there are other feeds that need extended namespace structure, we can work on creating something for the adult as used by most... gotta get all on the same page

yeah, I keep getting on Baxter about that, he really needs to validate those feeds more often...they push through fine though, so it really isn't that big of a deal for me

BTW...you are a busy fucking man! you seem to come out with fresh new ideas all the time, kudos man!

Jace 10-29-2006 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 11185042)
Real Bucks (see sig) has the outstanding RSS feeds with hosted content (pictures and movies) for every niche!

i got this when clicking the real bucks link in your sig

Not Found
The requested document was not found on this server.


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Web Server at fhgstore.com

teksonline 10-29-2006 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11185061)
yeah, I keep getting on Baxter about that, he really needs to validate those feeds more often...they push through fine though, so it really isn't that big of a deal for me

BTW...you are a busy fucking man! you seem to come out with fresh new ideas all the time, kudos man!

haha, gotta get the rent paid :)

teksonline 10-29-2006 04:24 PM

oh, BTW do you have any experience with clips in rss feeds?, I never played with one, but was figuring on adding it to the CMS... not too familiar with all the linking methods for that.. oh yeah and FLASH too.... or does those things have too much <object> crap needed and can't feed because of security problems?

Splum 10-29-2006 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 11185100)
oh, BTW do you have any experience with clips in rss feeds?, I never played with one, but was figuring on adding it to the CMS... not too familiar with all the linking methods for that.. oh yeah and FLASH too.... or does those things have too much <object> crap needed and can't feed because of security problems?

Google does this for their Google video feeds check out how they do it.

Jace 10-29-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 11185100)
oh, BTW do you have any experience with clips in rss feeds?, I never played with one, but was figuring on adding it to the CMS... not too familiar with all the linking methods for that.. oh yeah and FLASH too.... or does those things have too much <object> crap needed and can't feed because of security problems?

I have no clue about rss and embedded video, I have always done all the video embedding by hand

Jace 10-29-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11185112)
Google does this for their Google video feeds check out how they do it.

damn good idea :)

TheDoc 10-29-2006 04:28 PM

This may clear things up...

RSS feeds, like Topbucks and 90% of the programs have ARE CORRECT feeds. The real problem is, webmasters don't know how to use the feeds correctly.

Feedwordpress, is how to NOT use a feed correctly. Most BLOG readers use a description field for the posts, not the feed. So, lets say the sponsor has a hosted gallery feed. The ONLY way the feed will work in wordpress is if the sponsor wrote the entire post, with the photo, and parsed link, for the webmaster. Even if I have description tags, a thumbnail tag, links, ect.. wordpress will ignore all the fields, other than that description tag.

Webmasters have no room to complain. First, you yell at us for the feeds, then yell at us fully populate every field in the feed, yet you never take the time to learn how to properly use the feeds yourself.


Learn how to properly use the technology, then you can complain.

teksonline 10-29-2006 04:34 PM

ok thanks...

I'll explain that namespace thing as I read the guys on feedvalidator.org explained it to me (us) whoever reads their page hehe

why you should not make up things like <category> etc in RSS feeds
and why they should be in their own namespace

Take for instance a RSS feed some guy is supplying news info with for example. now in his RSS feed he decided to add
<banking>First National Bank</banking>

as you can see this is fine to most, but what about the airport guys that read in rss feeds and have a different definition of banking
and theirs is
<banking>45 degree angle 30% Speed</banking>

As you can see it can get out of scope really fast, and if everyone starts using their own defination of made up tags, RSS is useless.. hence why
they create the namespace thing that goes in the RSS header...
then the feed passes validation and everyone understands what they mean by those extended elements.

teksonline 10-29-2006 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11185130)
This may clear things up...

RSS feeds, like Topbucks and 90% of the programs have ARE CORRECT feeds. The real problem is, webmasters don't know how to use the feeds correctly.

Feedwordpress, is how to NOT use a feed correctly. Most BLOG readers use a description field for the posts, not the feed. So, lets say the sponsor has a hosted gallery feed. The ONLY way the feed will work in wordpress is if the sponsor wrote the entire post, with the photo, and parsed link, for the webmaster. Even if I have description tags, a thumbnail tag, links, ect.. wordpress will ignore all the fields, other than that description tag.

Webmasters have no room to complain. First, you yell at us for the feeds, then yell at us fully populate every field in the feed, yet you never take the time to learn how to properly use the feeds yourself.


Learn how to properly use the technology, then you can complain.


Wordpress is doing exactly what it should be doing, ignoring those
tags that are invalid in the RSS specification... wordpress will read description, or content:encoded, choosing the prior first... It will not
read in automatically the other parts, however if you edit it, they will be
there, but perhaps borken if not in a correct Namespace.

Jace 10-29-2006 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11185130)
This may clear things up...

RSS feeds, like Topbucks and 90% of the programs have ARE CORRECT feeds. The real problem is, webmasters don't know how to use the feeds correctly.

Feedwordpress, is how to NOT use a feed correctly. Most BLOG readers use a description field for the posts, not the feed. So, lets say the sponsor has a hosted gallery feed. The ONLY way the feed will work in wordpress is if the sponsor wrote the entire post, with the photo, and parsed link, for the webmaster. Even if I have description tags, a thumbnail tag, links, ect.. wordpress will ignore all the fields, other than that description tag.

Webmasters have no room to complain. First, you yell at us for the feeds, then yell at us fully populate every field in the feed, yet you never take the time to learn how to properly use the feeds yourself.

Learn how to properly use the technology, then you can complain.

well, it isn't just feedwordpress, it is most of the rss software out there, it will take the title and turn it into the permalink...that is STANDARD for rss software, ALL of them....as long as the permalink feature is turned on wordpress, it will take the title of the rss post and turn it into the permalink

I have been working with blogs and rss for a long fucking time now and to say I don't know how to use them is rediculous...

it is funny though, the sponsors that have great blog rss feeds that contain great content and proper keywords are getting tons of action, but the sponsors that give us total shit keep coming and asking why webmasters aren't using them

if everyone is using feedwordpress, would it make more sense to go along with them instead of bitching about everyone using that?

btw, I can complain whever I fucking want, it is a beef that I, and others, constantly have....

teksonline 10-29-2006 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11185230)
well, it isn't just feedwordpress, it is most of the rss software out there, it will take the title and turn it into the permalink...that is STANDARD for rss software, ALL of them....as long as the permalink feature is turned on wordpress, it will take the title of the rss post and turn it into the permalink

I have been working with blogs and rss for a long fucking time now and to say I don't know how to use them is rediculous...

it is funny though, the sponsors that have great blog rss feeds that contain great content and proper keywords are getting tons of action, but the sponsors that give us total shit keep coming and asking why webmasters aren't using them

if everyone is using feedwordpress, would it make more sense to go along with them instead of bitching about everyone using that?

btw, I can complain whever I fucking want, it is a beef that I, and others, constantly have....


ughm that could be based on the fact that 99% of all the feeds use <guid> incorrectly?
<guid IsPermaLink="False">http://www.link</guid>
how many do you see like this?
mostly you see <guid></guid> or even worse no guid at all hehe

Jace 10-29-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 11185276)
ughm that could be based on the fact that 99% of all the feeds use <guid> incorrectly?
<guid IsPermaLink="False">http://www.link</guid>
how many do you see like this?
mostly you see <guid></guid> or even worse no guid at all hehe

yeah, people do have their feeds pretty jacked up

i think there needs to be some sort of software out there that sponsors can use that would produce quality feeds that are 100% validated...i wonder if anyone makes such a piece of software? hehe

Jace 10-29-2006 04:55 PM

all right, back to work

great thread though you all, I am going to bump it from time to time....with more input from users and programs we could eventually have some really solid rss feeds in the adult internet world

one thing I did learn is that there are two types of rss users, the tgper and the blogger.....and I think if sponsors really wanna do it up right, they need to create tgp and blog rss feeds, and make sure and not sell their tgp as blog and vice versa

topbucks has tgp rss feeds, while I am constantly looking for blog rss feeds

teksonline 10-29-2006 04:56 PM

well it's pretty simple, first you have to understand it, you can learn by enter any feed url into http://www.feedvalidator.org
and when it comes back failed, read why :)

The fact is they are just hiring these overseas 5 dollar coders who never looked at RSS feed before in their life, and/or looked at other borken feeds and think they can just make up anything and expect it to conform itself into everyones (societies everyday) use... if you think about it.. its like trying to buy pc software and go home to install it on a mac.. the shit just aint gonna work hehe

Jace 10-29-2006 04:56 PM

hey teksonline, i meant to ask you, how hard do you think it would be to create a blog submitter application? I know all blog directories tend use different software, so I guess it would have to be some sort of windows app

Jace 10-29-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 11185357)
well it's pretty simple, first you have to understand it, you can learn by enter any feed url into http://www.feedvalidator.org
and when it comes back failed, read why :)

I love that site, I use it all the time when I grab a new rss feed from a sponsor...the results are sad 90% of the time though

maalox 10-29-2006 05:02 PM

Going to try topbucks feed
 
I grabbed a feed from topbucks for my feedwordpress,it didn't work good before but i'll try it again.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11184959)
it isn't my software, it is most commonly distributed rss software for wordpress, feedwordpress

also, when I open the feed in IE7, I get this



have your programmers downloaded wordpress and installed feedwordpress and tried the feeds, or are you all just using the rss for tgp owners?


teksonline 10-29-2006 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11185360)
hey teksonline, i meant to ask you, how hard do you think it would be to create a blog submitter application? I know all blog directories tend use different software, so I guess it would have to be some sort of windows app

Very simple but very tedious


So ok back to your statement, there are 2 types of adult bloggers, TGP and
blog feeders.. So what we have to do is create 2 namespaces

I already started one, the TGP one, and now we must work together on improving that one, as well as creating the other one... lets think of a name.. how about something like

<adultfeeder></adultfeeder>

then we can define within that all the elements, from thumbnails, thumbnail sizes, and other items

maalox 10-29-2006 05:09 PM

doesn't work well for me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maalox (Post 11185400)
I grabbed a feed from topbucks for my feedwordpress,it didn't work good before but i'll try it again.....

OK i tried it and this was the answer i got when i tried to update feeds
Error: I don't syndicate http://rss.topbucks.com/?nostyle=1&r...ed=stat icvid
bummer..

just a punk 10-29-2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11185081)
i got this when clicking the real bucks link in your sig

Not Found
The requested document was not found on this server.
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Web Server at fhgstore.com

Oops! Here is a working link: Real-Bucks.com

And thank you for telling me about a mistake in my signature - it's fixed now!

teksonline 10-29-2006 05:18 PM

Maalox, is feedwordpress somethign different then wordpress? I just loaded that feed into my wordpress syndication spot, updated content and it imported fine.. It also is a valid feed

Jace 10-29-2006 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 11185475)
Oops! Here is a working link: Real-Bucks.com

And thank you for telling me about a mistake in my signature - it's fixed now!

haha, np man :)

Jace 10-29-2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 11185477)
Maalox, is feedwordpress somethign different then wordpress? I just loaded that feed into my wordpress syndication spot, updated content and it imported fine.. It also is a valid feed

http://projects.radgeek.com/feedwordpress

Trixxxia 10-29-2006 05:35 PM

Jace - Ok I see what it's doing on yours - **still having your setup done on one of my servers as I type though** just so I can find and test and go bug some RSS people to figure out how to make it work with 'yours'.

As for the RSS feed working in Blogs - it works in mine. Keep in mind that Topbucks was giving AutoBloggerPro to affiliates, hence, making it work in ABP. Anyhow - if you add me to ICQ I'll keep you updated with what I find.

Thanks for the feedback - we don't want to cater to only 'one' type - we want to cater to 98% of the webmasters - & if it's not exactly what you want, we want to make sure we find you a workaround.

Anyhow - back to work for me!

Jace 10-29-2006 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia (Post 11185578)
Jace - Ok I see what it's doing on yours - **still having your setup done on one of my servers as I type though** just so I can find and test and go bug some RSS people to figure out how to make it work with 'yours'.

As for the RSS feed working in Blogs - it works in mine. Keep in mind that Topbucks was giving AutoBloggerPro to affiliates, hence, making it work in ABP. Anyhow - if you add me to ICQ I'll keep you updated with what I find.

Thanks for the feedback - we don't want to cater to only 'one' type - we want to cater to 98% of the webmasters - & if it's not exactly what you want, we want to make sure we find you a workaround.

Anyhow - back to work for me!

just FYI, there are hundreds of webmasters out there that use feedwordpress, just because others aren't speaking up on a sunday night doesn't mean they aren't there....so far though, on a sunday night, there are 2 people in this thread alone that have issues with your feeds

and let me add further, your feed was just one example of tons of feeds out there that don't have any links in the feeds....when you create something like an rss feed, you not only have your end to worry about, you should also link se text and have images so that the feed it rich with content and helps you along with the affiliates

I would never use any feed that was a single sentence, your feed just caught my eye when I was in another thread

wanna see how a rss feed should be for blog users? check out spunkbucks feeds....I get loads of search engine traffic because I use their feeds

Jace 10-29-2006 05:42 PM

trixxxia, just because I am the only one speaking up does not mean it is just an issue with mine only, it just means that others have looked and passed on using your feeds and they don't even think about it now...and it wouldn't even have been yours that I singled out if you hadn't posted about topbucks feeds 2 minutes before I made this thread ;)

just a punk 10-29-2006 05:46 PM

Here is a snapshot of Real-Bucks hosted blog and their RSS feeds you may use on your own blogs with your own ref codes:
http://www.rbblog.com/wp-content/upl.../rbblog_sm.jpg

BTW, the feeds are separated by categories (e.g. Straight, Gay, Teen, Mature, Tranny, Toons, Lesbian, Fetish) :thumbsup

maalox 10-29-2006 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 11185477)
Maalox, is feedwordpress somethign different then wordpress? I just loaded that feed into my wordpress syndication spot, updated content and it imported fine.. It also is a valid feed

Yea it's a plug-in for feeds for the wordpress blog,usually it works real good but it won't give me a good feedburner feed when i use nubiles or mpbabes but works well with for example Adult Movie Club Big Tits Rss Feeds

TheDoc 10-29-2006 06:34 PM

Hey Jace.. First, I do agree with you. Programs should build feeds that work with TGP’s and Blogs. But understand when a program releases feeds they will almost always work for TGP’s and not blogs, since we built hosted galleries for TGPs. Since that is the case a very small % of programs had full write-ups for galleries, most only had short descriptions. So now some programs have to build 1000’s of blog posts for galleries, it’s a huge project that gets put in line with other projects.

100’s of programs will be coming out with feeds in the next year. As the standard starts to get set in the industry it will catch on to others. The entire feed world is still very new to almost everyone. 10% of the programs have feeds, and pretty much all them are starting to improve on what they have.

Once a standard starts to get set and people get educated on how to really build and properly use feeds you will find that software like feedwordpress and most other 3rd party readers won’t be needed. It isn’t a standard for programs to follow, it’s a standard that will happen once everyone realizes what feeds can really be used for.

SkeetSkeet 10-29-2006 06:35 PM

our RSS feeds pull the girls diary entries and every time a new set is added to the tour. So you get almost daily entries and great text too. Every time any link is posted, there is a "Visit My Site - Click Here" link below the post !

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Trixxxia 10-29-2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11185616)
trixxxia, just because I am the only one speaking up does not mean it is just an issue with mine only, it just means that others have looked and passed on using your feeds and they don't even think about it now...and it wouldn't even have been yours that I singled out if you hadn't posted about topbucks feeds 2 minutes before I made this thread ;)

Oh Jace, don't think that I think you're the only one LMAO I'm just used to people hitting me up rightaway when they don't like something that I was baffled as to 'what' it was - whether it was something that was put online as a 'test' or what...

It's all good though - I'll find out how to make it work right for feedwordpress and simplify it for you.

**kids gotta go to sleep - will check later if it's setup on my server yet and will play around with it**

Jace 10-29-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia (Post 11185932)
Oh Jace, don't think that I think you're the only one LMAO I'm just used to people hitting me up rightaway when they don't like something that I was baffled as to 'what' it was - whether it was something that was put online as a 'test' or what...

It's all good though - I'll find out how to make it work right for feedwordpress and simplify it for you.

**kids gotta go to sleep - will check later if it's setup on my server yet and will play around with it**

killer, I look forward...I will add you to ICQ too so we can chat more

I would LOVE to see you all take those reality paysite updates and create blog feeds out of them ;)

Jace 10-29-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 11185883)
Hey Jace.. First, I do agree with you. Programs should build feeds that work with TGP?s and Blogs. But understand when a program releases feeds they will almost always work for TGP?s and not blogs, since we built hosted galleries for TGPs. Since that is the case a very small % of programs had full write-ups for galleries, most only had short descriptions. So now some programs have to build 1000?s of blog posts for galleries, it?s a huge project that gets put in line with other projects.

100?s of programs will be coming out with feeds in the next year. As the standard starts to get set in the industry it will catch on to others. The entire feed world is still very new to almost everyone. 10% of the programs have feeds, and pretty much all them are starting to improve on what they have.

Once a standard starts to get set and people get educated on how to really build and properly use feeds you will find that software like feedwordpress and most other 3rd party readers won?t be needed. It isn?t a standard for programs to follow, it?s a standard that will happen once everyone realizes what feeds can really be used for.

you are totally correct, the future is only going to get better for rss ;)

I guess I am just really vocal and harsh at times because I see all these paysites with kickass update text and pics that could easily just be thrown into a rss script at the same time the paysite updates, and all programs do is pay someone hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars, to put out a line of text and sometimes a thumb

take this for example:
http://www.herfirstanalsex.com/s1/index.html

that is KILLER content for an rss feed, and I imagine that is run from a cms of some sort, and almost every cms now has rss capabilites...so why not just take those 4 thumbs, and that big description, and create a killer feed? it seems like such the logical thing to do...but instead sponsors (and not just top bucks) will create a whole new feed and never touch those paysite updates...LOL

Trixxxia 10-29-2006 07:21 PM

**back**
No, the original idea from all our suggestions and polls and feedback on our forum was to offer feeds with the descriptions + different thumbs so it would show up with all that data. Now - Why it doesn't work with a standard blog (meaning, why the thumb doesn't show on the blog - I don't know) but I will find out.

TheDoc 10-29-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11186043)
you are totally correct, the future is only going to get better for rss ;)

Very few paysite CMS systems have feeds. With that, only a very small amount of paysites have descriptions for movies or photo sets within the member areas.

I have already seen the problem programs will have with rss feeds. We built the xml/rss system for NATS. Building it into NATS, so you can get rss linking codes, and it go into the feed, was one hell of a task.. let alone make sure we did the feed correctly. It's an on going learning project. I know how much trouble we have had, I can only imagine what other programs are going through.

An example of our feed built into NATS. We don't have big desc tags, yet.

http://in.bustyamateurboobs.com/rss/...show=10&type=1


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