You obviously didnt see the video of Limbaugh imitating MJ when he was running his mouth about it. Guess they made sure not to show that on FOX News last night.

It's hard to see something like that when you are "listening." You need to stop pretending that he was making fun of parkinson's disease, and laughing at the symptoms. I guess they played a loop of it on CNN and put in their own dialog, then showed how well the snipers in Iraq were able to kill our soldiers. But, you are right, I didn't see him laughing at MJ Fox for having Parkinsons.

Signed YES!
Society puts too much stock in some douchebag with a pretty face who thinks they can/cant act.
While I fully support everyones right to voice their opinion, what the hell does a celebraties most of whom are drop outs and live a lifestyle the majority of Americans will never understand know about politics?

Actually that is what is RIGHT with the law today.

He isnt above the law and it is his freedom of speech that allows him to say it.

There is a video clip of it. He was making fun of him. Search for the video clip and you'll see what he's talking about.

Why don't you post the link if you have seen it, so we can all see him making fun of MJ Fox for having Parkinsons, and also saying that he is faking the disease, like this thread says?

Look at your politicians of today. They are predominately losers who couldn't cut it in the private sector. Most politicians have a lifestyle that don't understand what the majority of Americans go through.

What is this your shit Mr. Chicago?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=14pGY1P97L8

This is what I found. I listen to it again, and it doesn't appear he is poking fun of MJ Fox. Doesn't seem as harsh when you hear it now does it?

This is the only place I could find it on short notice.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/KO-LimbaughMJFox.wmv

That doesn't show him moving and shaking. It's just the sound. :disgust

If Michael J Fox doesn't move like that all the time, why would they tape him while he was. They can edit the tape, shoot on a different day or time, etc. It's because he wanted to look sick to help a democrat get elected, right?

Yes it does, download and open in Windows Media Player.

It shows MJ Fox shaking, not Rush.

It's from Countdown with Keith Olbermann. It shows Fox, Limbaugh, and an interview with some guy.

Democrat elected? He wants to get a guy who supports his cause to get elected. The guy did an ad for Arlen Specter, why didn't you complain then?

As for his shaking, I don't know what you expect from someone with Parkinson's. Have you seen Muhammad Ali? Is he faking to pass his "liberal agenda" too?

Michael J Fox *IS* exaggerating in that ad no doubt about it, Ive watched hundreds of various clips over the last few days of Mr Fox and I cant find another one that shows him tweaking out like he was in that video. Can you find another video that shows Mr Fox spazzing out?

I'm not complaining now. Rush Limbaugh is. He is a republican, so can you understand why? I don't like Arlen Specter, so if he went off of his meds so it would make people feel sorry for him to get Specter elected, I may not dig it, but it is his right to do it.

No, Muhammed Ali is not. MJ Fox admitted that he goes off his meds so he will shake when in front of Subcommittees. MJ Fox does not always shake like this according to guess who? Michael J Fox!

I finally saw the right clip. Rush mimic'd the movements but it didn't seem like he was having a laugh at the expense of his disease. It seems he was wondering why we have never seen MJ Fox moving like this, but now we do.
MJ Fox can not take his meds if he wants, or he can not edit the tape where he is not shaking as much, and Rush can call him on it. That is the freedom of being an American.

Define spazzing out? Here's an interview he did the other day that shows him shaking uncontrollably. He sure is a great actor.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2128188.shtml

The "spazzing" that you are referring to is the rocking back and forth I'm guessing? That is actually from the medication, not Parkinson's. My great uncle had it and the medication he had to take would really fuck him up somedays, sometimes worse than the Parkinson's itself. He didn't have as serious a form of Parkinson's as Michael J. Fox has.

I don't know what you expect from the man. He has an incredibly debilitating condition that essentially destroys his way of life. Did you want him to wait until he was in his best possible state to do the ad? Or did you want him to show what he has to go through on a daily basis? I don't give a shit if he looks like he did in the ad or that interview with Katie Couric, I feel sorry for anyone suffering from it.

The funniest part of this whole thing is that Michael J. Fox has supported Republican candidates just as much if they support stem cell research.

The key question is, have you seen him move like this BEFORE these comercials aired and Rush commented?

I don't think I've seen Michael J. Fox on TV since Spin City. So no. But I have seen someone with Parkinson's, and if you think that is bad, you have no idea how bad it gets.

You are failing to acknowledge that MJ Fox wrote in his book that he stays off his meds from time to time so he will shake more for effect when in front of subcommittees on Parkinson's. Yet, you say how dare Rush say he is acting or staying off of his meds for effect to further his cause?

Rush said he was ACTING. His words "He's moving all around and shaking, and it's purely an act.".

I don't doubt that MJF stayed off his meds during the subcommittee. But I wouldn't call that shaking an "act". I also know that the swaying you see in the ad is not from not taking your meds, it's a side effect of the medication. The swaying is the medication, not Parkinson's. But that's just the opinion of every neuroscientist they've had on the news in the past couple days.

Like I said, he looks like shit in both the ad and the TV interview. The guy has a horrible condition and we have people calling it acting.

Wrong. The purpose of this thread was to shine a light on just how fucked up people such as Rush and those that suck his dick such as yourself are. Can you say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?

I agree it wasn't acting. But do you agree that if he didn't want to appear sick, they could have edited it, shot it on a day when he was not so shakey (by his own admission he has those days)? He wrote that he intentionally stayed off his meds during hearings. So now you don't believe what he wrote in his own book?

In the TV interview he says he was shaking because he DIDNT HAVE ENOUGH medication, and in the commercial he says the shaking was caused by TOO MUCH medication.

Also you have not shown me a video of Mr Fox BEFORE the actual commercial that shows him "spazzing out"(for lack of better words). Please find me a video of this and I will concede that maybe he isnt acting until then I can say I am not alone in thinking that he might have been overacting.

No, I said I believe what he wrote in the book. I don't know what that has to do with his commercial. The swaying and the shaking are different. The swaying comes from the medication while the shaking comes from the Parkinson's. He has said that he overdoes his medication before interviews so that he can speak clearly. Without his medication, he has a very difficult time speaking coherently.

I guess they can edit the commercials to make him look healthy, but why? The man has Parkinson's, shouldn't we see what his life is like? Reality is sometimes harsh.

Rush is a comentator. He commented on the commercial, and that he thought Fox did it (swaying) for effect by either staying off his meds, like he said he sometimes did or was acting(which I disagree with him on). Do I feel sorry for him? Yes, I hate that he has the disease. I don't hate Fox or Limbaugh. I think Fox is well aware that he wanted to make people feel sorry for him so they would vote his way. Limbaugh pointed out that he believed this was the case either correctly or incorrectly so.

It's great to have freedom of speech, and not have it squelched because the guy/girl who is making the argument has a disease, lost an arm, or a son or daughter in a war.

Sure we can see how he lives. But we didn't see him arrive in his Limo with his entourage. We saw a sick man say vote for my guy so I can get cured. If I thought the guy he wanted me to vote for would actually make a cure possible, I would certainly vote his way. I'm all for stem cell research and cloning.

He isnt a commentator he is a lying douche bag.

I can't speak for him, but I know that my great Uncle would sway a lot when he would take his medication. Not taking the medication would cause tremors, but he would become very lethargic and have a very difficult time moving. The medication in such high doses causes dyskinesia which is what you see when he moves around involuntarily.

As for videos of him before the actual commercial, I don't have any. I don't follow Michael J. Fox too closely and have his video library on hand.

I don't know what you are trying to get at. Are you trying to say Parkinson's isn't that bad? That most guys like Muhammed Ali who show similar symptoms are overreacting and faking it? Every neuroscientist they've had on has said that he looked just like a Parkinson's patient in his commercial. But perhaps Rush Limbaugh and yourself are privy to more scientific information than them.

Rush knows he has Parkinson's. Do you think Rush said he didn't have the disease? Listen to it again. Rush said he believed he made it look worse by not taking his medication (Like again, he said he had done in the past), or was acting. If Fox is guilty of not taking his medication to look more sick in the past, then why is it so outrageous that someone would accuse him of it this time?

The medication causes the swaying. The argument should be that he took too much.

And how do you make a disease look worse? Whether he swayed or not, it's a fucking horrible condition.

This is exactly what Rush said:

"In this commercial he is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He is moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act."

While he said this outrageous statement he imitated Fox by moving around and shaking around.

THEN he goes on to call FOX shameless! Sheesh, was a fat fucking hypocrite.

I don't think it was an act. Rush knows he has Parkinson's. Listen to the entire clip, and don't just cherry pick the "purely an act" part.

The shaking was not an act, but was left in the video for effect. Otherwise, he would have shot the video on a day when he wasn't shakey, as he has said some days he's not, or edited so it didn't appear that he was trying to pull heart strings so his candidate can get elected. He had not taken his medicine in the past so he would look sicker, by his own admission. He has the right to do it, just the way the one legged guy standing at exits with a bucket and a sign does. It's just a little creepy that he uses his illness to get a guy and girl that he likes elected IMO.

Everyone agrees that it is a horrible condition. Even Rush, listen to the clip.

You would normally think a person would medicate or not medicate so he would look less sick on video. Not in this case, the sicker he looks, the more likely people are going to feel sorry for him and vote his way.

Actually, the shaking isn't a bad thing for Parkinson's sufferers. It means that the medication is working. If the medication wasn't working, he wouldn't be moving much at all and probably unable to speak clearly. I don't know how you tell a Parkinson's patient to hold off till they can look less sick.

I can't believe I'm arguing the character of Rush Limbaugh vs Michael J. Fox.

You have one guy who has raised over 72 million dollars for Parkinson's research. He opened the Muhammed Ali Center. He has brought worldwide attention to a dehibilitating condition.

Then you have a hate mongerer who attacks kids on the air, abuses prescription drugs, and goes on sex tours with his buddies in the Dominican Republic.

I'm sorry that I don't consider MJF the "shameless" one of the bunch.

He had no problem in the Arlen Specter video promo not shaking didnt he?
Mr Fox is simply a pawn in a big fucking game just like Rush so dont get your panties in a bunch that someone would dare criticize a fucking cripple.

I think ya might be right there Tony :thumbsup

If the only thing to find that's worth a "discussion" is whether or not Mr Fox did or did not take medication - some folks have too much time on their hands.

The fact is Fox has Parkinson's and is attempting to do something about it - he already has in the form of a foundation and raised millions for other sufferer's. Trying to rip him apart is pathetic.

The opinions of a sicko commentator (or lying douche bag) are totally irrelevant - Limbaugh does not have Parkinsons disease tho he obviously has another. Has he ever taken any constructive action to help others? Doubt it - he's too busy trying to be a sensation and earn a dime.