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Time for another NATS special?

10-23-2006, 02:49 PM

Could it be?

Who wants (or needs) one?

Any ideas for something different?

Maybe a deal on a suite of our products (NATS, CARMA, and SPARTA)?

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10-23-2006, 02:57 PM

I'm not sure if we will go with NATS yet... but I think a special might influence my decision.

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10-23-2006, 02:58 PM

hey what kinda deal can you make for nats+carma ?

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10-23-2006, 03:09 PM

*waves arms around*

I'd reeeeally like to use NATS but the up front cost is just too much for me right now. A good deal would definitely sway me!
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10-23-2006, 03:12 PM

you could just install it for me to play with

i have nothing to really use it for, I just wanna play around with it...haha
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10-23-2006, 03:41 PM

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10-23-2006, 03:41 PM

John when the time comes (hopefully in the next 4-5 months) I hope you help me out
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10-23-2006, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by stephthegeek

*waves arms around*

I'd reeeeally like to use NATS but the up front cost is just too much for me right now. A good deal would definitely sway me!

Oh I think John will help you out, he gave me a great deal ;)

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10-23-2006, 04:29 PM

Yea for us just starting out with a few sites and 4 billing companies and after paying the visa b/s and model fee's server fee's there is really nothing left to give so I could suggest um..... FREE INSTALL I know for sure I would go for that

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10-23-2006, 04:38 PM

I'm considering switching to nats, but 1000$ for training is just too much

The way i see it, big upfront free, and then not-small every month fee

if it was only one of them i'll go for it

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10-23-2006, 04:41 PM

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10-23-2006, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by BucksMania

I'm considering switching to nats, but 1000$ for training is just too much

The way i see it, big upfront free, and then not-small every month fee

if it was only one of them i'll go for it

icq 43344647 if you have offer for me

I don't see how some people think we are oh so expensive (some people think we're way too cheap). Don't get me wrong. I don't mind doing discounts and specials from time to time as everyone should know However, this is your business. This is the software that will run your business. You don't want to spend $1000 on some little script that some kid writes in his basement. We have an office to maintain, support and development staff salaries to pay, etc. $150 to $650 for software as in depth and complex as NATS is is not a bad deal.

Add up your processing fees for a month on a decent sized program. I'm not knocking processors or their fees in any way but $150 to $650 is a drop in the bucket.

As far as install & training. Installation can sometimes take hours depending on the situation on a clients server. They all have different setups and there are very often isssues and lots of Q&A in the install processs.

Unlike our competitors we train you on our software. This process takes 6-10 hours and also includes free ongoing support. (We haven't charged for ANY support instances for months and are most likely going to include free support on leases all together very shortly). Even when we did occasionally charge for a support instance it was very rare and in the most extreme circumstances.

So, you get a very complex software product installed, full training, and full support from a staff of very talented people for $1500 up front and $150 to $650 per month ($350 and $650 only once your program has grown to easily support the amount). I don't really think thats too bad of a deal. If you can't afford to spend $150 to $650 to run your business how are you ever going to pay your affiliates?

This post is NOT specific to you. Please don't feel I'm offended by your post or "yelling" at you or "attacking" you as people always seem to love to assume. Just venting a bit over the numerous calls and icqs we get saying how our software is ridiculously priced and should cost $100-500 or some other insane amount.

Also, as said, I have no problem running specials and I'm sure we'll have a very nice one coming up soon.

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10-23-2006, 05:17 PM

I don't think that you can explain something like that to alot of people
But good on you for trying
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10-23-2006, 05:18 PM

I don't think that you can explain something like that to alot of people
But good on you for trying
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10-23-2006, 06:51 PM

Thanks John. I'd just like to add that I am in no way saying that NATS is overpriced. I think it's a great value from what I've seen. Just tough to justify the cost when you're a small operation. And hey, who doesn't love to get a deal when they can?
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10-23-2006, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by PBucksJohn

Could it be?

Who wants (or needs) one?

Any ideas for something different?

Maybe a deal on a suite of our products (NATS, CARMA, and SPARTA)?

hey John, i would like to talk to you about this too.... im already installing nats on one of my programs and im interesting on installing it on another 4 programs that i won... would like to discuss with you what kind of deal can be done here!
Thanks and please contact me on icq 86670976 or just let me know other way.
cheers.
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10-23-2006, 07:41 PM

How about also a special for users who already have nats. Maybe a high discount for adding carma and/or Sparta. ;)

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10-23-2006, 07:59 PM

Can I vote no?

It's kinda sad all of the upcoming programs that think $1000 is too much to invest in their business.

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10-23-2006, 08:20 PM

I don't know if you can answer this or if there really is an answer but I'll give it a shot anyway...

When designing/structuring a site that plans on using Nats, what should that person consider, be aware of, avoid that will simplify the installation/integration/compatibility with Nats?
other than using Carma and Sparta...lol
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10-23-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Hotrocket

I don't know if you can answer this or if there really is an answer but I'll give it a shot anyway...

When designing/structuring a site that plans on using Nats, what should that person consider, be aware of, avoid that will simplify the installation/integration/compatibility with Nats?
other than using Carma and Sparta...lol

Use CARMA and SPARTA of course! j/k

Our products use the smarty template engine. It can have a bit of a learning curve but once you do learn it you can really do a lot. It would be best to either learn this system or find someone to for/with you who knows it. Other than that all you need is some HTML skills, a bit of apache knowledge (which your host or us can help with) and some time. Reading the knowledge base at http://kb.toomuchmedia.com and the visual knowledge base at http://roxy.toomuchmedia.com/product..._frameset.html will aslo help.

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10-23-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by The Ghost

Can I vote no?

It's kinda sad all of the upcoming programs that think $1000 is too much to invest in their business.

I can understand it from some. This biz can be tough to start out in these days. Its the established guys that scare me.

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10-23-2006, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by BluMedia

How about also a special for users who already have nats. Maybe a high discount for adding carma and/or Sparta. ;)

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10-23-2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by THY

hey John, i would like to talk to you about this too.... im already installing nats on one of my programs and im interesting on installing it on another 4 programs that i won... would like to discuss with you what kind of deal can be done here!
Thanks and please contact me on icq 86670976 or just let me know other way.
cheers.
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10-23-2006, 08:33 PM

Thanks for the info and the quick response John!
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10-23-2006, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by PBucksJohn

I can understand it from some. This biz can be tough to start out in these days. Its the established guys that scare me.

Another point....

You are not only selling software, you are selling a brand with a strong reputation. Many webmaster trust an affiliate won't be able to shave if they are using NATS, hence more affiliates to a program based on brand.

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10-23-2006, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by stephthegeek

Thanks John. I'd just like to add that I am in no way saying that NATS is overpriced. I think it's a great value from what I've seen. Just tough to justify the cost when you're a small operation. And hey, who doesn't love to get a deal when they can?

No problem. Didn't think you were, just hear it all the time. I even get people from time to time who insist it should be free!

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10-23-2006, 10:13 PM

I am hardly waiting to start using NATS&CARMA
best posible choice for me
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10-23-2006, 10:52 PM

Interested in picking up Sparta. Will hit you up soon.

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10-23-2006, 11:16 PM

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10-24-2006, 12:00 AM

free setup/install would be sweet.
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10-24-2006, 12:26 AM

I was set up with NATS not too long ago. I will admit there is a small learning curve but it is SOOOOOO FUCKING WORTH IT!!!!!

Pay the money, learn how to work it, learn about smarties and have at it. It really is a powerful tool.

If you can't invest $1000 into what may be one of the most important additions to your business, you may want to rethink what you are doing. You will make the $1000 back in cascaded sales alone.
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10-24-2006, 01:15 AM

The world can always use another NATS promo!
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10-24-2006, 01:21 AM

thanks for the info dude....

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10-24-2006, 01:40 AM

bump 4 NATS
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10-24-2006, 04:10 AM

If you are serious about your business then NATS,is the best deal you can make to maximize your profits...
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10-24-2006, 04:31 AM

Very nice deal John
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10-24-2006, 04:33 AM

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10-24-2006, 04:42 AM

I can not believe people saying NATS is too cheap. it should at least triple in price, if you cant pay the price to play, you cant play, simple. nats has made the bar to enter this biz entirely too low.
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10-24-2006, 04:50 AM

Well, we have been looking at NATS too. But $1000 is a lot of money. Our present affiliatesystem works fine, but NATS have more options. We are trying to figure out if the extra options will make it worth switching to NATS og not.

We are not sure if NATS will increase our income enough to justify $1000 startup fee and then the monthly fee.

But NATS is great - no doubt about that. So a really good offer might just make us switch to NATS.
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