Should Bush, Blair and Olmert be labeled ?terrorists??

[Naja-ram]

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11880#

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[psili]

Google: "define terrorist"
Answer: One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives, while disguised as a civilian non-combatant. The use of a civilian disguise while on operations exempts the perpetrator from protection under the Geneva Conventions, and consequently if captured they are liable for prosecution as common criminals.

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Bush, the dipshit that he is, is definitely NOT using a disguise or trying to disguise himself, thus I can not agree with him being labeled a terrorist.

[edgeprod]

Your profile, your sig, your post ... I don't even know where to begin.

But it's all pretty funny! Thanks for the early morning laugh!

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[Naja-ram]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Your profile, your sig, your post ... I don't even know where to begin.

But it's all pretty funny! Thanks for the early morning laugh!

start with the post, you can't say the point is not valid

[KRL]

Better be careful what you post. Under the new law the President just signed yesterday, the government can now legally pickup anyone in the US, declare you a national security threat for any unstated reason they choose, interrogate you with harsh physical coercion techniques, take you out of the country and even deny you legal council and the right to defend yourself in court of law.

It's amazing very few people realize the extent to which the US Constitution was just abridged and the core legal principles upon which this country has operated for over 200 years were tossed out the window.

Hopefully the US Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional and revoke it.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by KRL

Better be careful what you post. Under the new law the President just signed yesterday, the government can now legally pickup anyone in the US, declare you a national security threat for any unstated reason they choose, interrogate you with harsh physical coercion techniques, take you out of the country and even deny you legal council and the right to defend yourself in court of law.

It's amazing very few people realize the extent to which the US Constitution was just abridged and the core legal principles upon which this country has operated for over 200 years were tossed out the window.

Hopefully the US Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional and revoke it.

True... and sad. Your first paragraph reduces the status of a democracy to a police state. The actions of a police state are usually associated with those who pursue a policy of torture (as defined under various treaties, including the Geneva Convention), lack of due legal process and a scenario where leadership make laws to suit each occasion and where these are often oppressive and/or coercive.

Deviating treaties and the constitution of a nation is leading to serious consequences, both domestically and on an international basis.

Only my - this has little to do with any elected "war on terror" and more to do with a democratic nation being challenged by a minority. Some may define that minority as extremists.

[psili]

Originally Posted by KRL

Better be careful what you post. Under the new law the President just signed yesterday, the government can now legally pickup anyone in the US, declare you a national security threat for any unstated reason they choose, interrogate you with harsh physical coercion techniques, take you out of the country and even deny you legal council and the right to defend yourself in court of law.

It's amazing very few people realize the extent to which the US Constitution was just abridged and the core legal principles upon which this country has operated for over 200 years were tossed out the window.

Hopefully the US Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional and revoke it.

I can't believe more people don't realize this. And if anyone thinks KRL's wearing a tinfoil hat regarding this new law, just read about Maher Arar

[Webby]

Originally Posted by psili

I can't believe more people don't realize this. And if anyone thinks KRL's wearing a tinfoil hat regarding this new law, just read about Maher Arar

Sure.. Arar is one of a few who have given statements to the effect that they have been flown to another country and where a number claim torture and an occasional murder took place. (Doubt we have even seen a fraction of the evidence collected by international orgs yet).

Obviously any nation transporting people to other countries are behaving as "terrorists" - along with the host nations who are known to pursue policies of torture. Bottom line - none of them can be trusted with shit.

[chshkt]

Resume - George W. Bush


Resume

GEORGE W. BUSH 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington , DC 20520

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE

LAW ENFORCEMENT

I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine , in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

MILITARY

I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam

COLLEGE

I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland , Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas . The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry, including Enron CEO Ken Lay, I was elected governor of Texas .

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union .

During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida , and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.

In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, had a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President. I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.

My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution.

More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip- offs in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.

I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.

I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S . "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families-in-wartime.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD. I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden [sic] to justice.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.

All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. I am a member of the Republican Party.


PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN THE 2006 MIDTERM ELECTIONS. PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW.

[Dollarmansteve]

Originally Posted by Naja-ram

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11880#

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ooooooh... you're so controversial..

oooooohhhhh

[juz]

While Im no Bush fan alot of that stuff on that resume is bullshit, its easy enough to pick on the guy why lie about it?

and to answer the orginal posters question, until the day that our F-16's, F117's
B-1's and B-2's start indiscrimantly targeting civilians like your people do, No they shouldnt.

[notabook]

[reynold]

Bush saves the world

[edgeprod]

[Naja-ram]

Originally Posted by notabook

[Pimpin_J]

Hell no, not again

[HDV KING]

I wish I had that much free time, shouldn't have clicked...