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|  10-18-2006, 03:34 PM | #101 | 
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|  10-19-2006, 03:14 AM | #102 | |
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 For me it looks like they care shit about it and support torrent sites!!!!! As you can still see, rapidshare.de is still their main spot on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d 
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|  10-19-2006, 04:24 AM | #103 | 
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|  10-19-2006, 04:35 AM | #104 | |
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 The torrent thing has been going on for ages, shut one site down and ten more will pop up.  | |
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|  10-19-2006, 04:47 AM | #105 | 
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				 | you didn't read the full thread and realize that etology and netpondads are operated by the same people, did you? 
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|  10-19-2006, 04:59 AM | #106 | 
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				 | Damn, some serious pwnage in this thread. | 
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|  10-19-2006, 05:57 AM | #107 | 
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				 | Of course, as long as there are people prepared to buy ads on the sites and brokers ready to sell them. 
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|  10-19-2006, 06:14 AM | #108 | 
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				 | gee that is a lot of free stuff!   
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|  10-19-2006, 09:10 AM | #109 | 
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				 | maybe, but supporting them hurts our business even more! 
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|  10-19-2006, 10:13 AM | #110 | 
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				 | While you guys were arguing about stupid shit I called my computer geek in Europe, who called his attorney, in order to evaluate the Rapidshare situation. Result: If the owner is located in Germany they are in for both, distribution of porn without a backdoor protection (violation of the German federal criminal code) and copyright infringement (personal liability). If we all stick together we could kick some serious ass without it costing anything. Anyone in the mood to do something about it? 
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|  10-19-2006, 10:50 AM | #111 | |
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 Domain-Ace: rapidshare.de Nserver: rsdb.rapidshare.de 130.117.156.250 Nserver: rs1.rapidshare.de 80.237.244.50 Status: connect Changed: 2006-01-20T12:32:17+01:00 [Holder][Admin-C][Tech-C][Zone-C] Type: PERSON Name: Christian Schmid Organisation: RapidTec Address: Belchenstr. 23 Pcode: 79336 City: Herbolzheim Country: DE Phone: +49-7643-933199 Fax: +49-7643-933796 Email: Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com Changed: 2005-05-27T06:51:48+02:00 
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|  10-20-2006, 04:40 AM | #112 | |
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|  10-21-2006, 03:00 AM | #113 | 
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				 | uhmmm, what to say, the rapidshare.de spots are still available on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fc4b0cdf87c0e4 so i doubt Mr. Aga was seriously when he said he won't tolerate advertising on torrent sites! 
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|  10-21-2006, 10:16 AM | #114 | |
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|  10-21-2006, 01:53 PM | #115 | 
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				 | hahahaha, yes, seems so. Somehow it's very silent at ones in this thread!   
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|  10-21-2006, 03:03 PM | #116 | 
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				 | It's the weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't pull out of the etology thing if they won't cooperate with the removal of rapidshare. 
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|  10-22-2006, 02:34 AM | #117 | 
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				 | yes, seems to be more easy to moan about other companies but doing absolutly the same. I'am also sure that netpondads won't remove their top US$ 4000 Ads for Rapidshare. This shows again how some big players which have some influence give a shit about webmasters and affilates! 
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|  10-22-2006, 03:55 AM | #118 | |
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 So what do you do? You pick the 1 guy who runs a forum "Good business, not Greedy business" who you'll see IS against this kind of destructive bullshit, and choose to troll him repeatedly INSTEAD of the others. You're not against Rapidshare or scumware, etc.. you're just here to bash Aga.  
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|  10-22-2006, 07:00 AM | #119 | |
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 First of all i didn't see anyone else using torrent sites for advertise complaining about it and crying loud, but that's exactly what Mr. Aga did. He sells US$ 4.000 Spots for rapidshare.de but complains that AFF adds are shown on such sites, that is what makes this thread interesting, at least for me. Additinally he is threating to sue the one who brought it up that he is just one more of these torrent supporters and nothing else at this moment. If he was THAT MUCH against such business behaviour, so much against torrent sites, so why are the Adds still there for sell and brokering? I would have awaited at least some kind of "Excuse me, i wasn't aware of this, be sure it's gone in less than 24 hours". If this would be happen, which i guess everybody awaited who readed the full thread it's ok, mistakes happen, just human. But after it doesn't happen for nearly a full week now, so what else can be the conclusion other than he is exactly the same type of group people you descibed with "who tell you they don't care and they're here to make money.. not caring about anything else.", not? It's one thing just to begin such thread, make accuses and than just disapear because you are in the same boat with the other torrent supporters. Hey, i would nothing like to see more than nobody supporting all that scumbags running or promoting torrents, zango, vidoscash and all that shit that hurts us all, but seems there are not many professional webmasters around thinking for the long run. And yes, i guess i will bump this thread many many many times more, that's my right on a forum. I'am not a sig poster, i seldom post on gfy as there are not many topics of interest for me and i don't have any personal issues with aga or whomever on this board, i don't know him, never talked to him and never was in anyway affilated to him, at least not knowingly, so i have no reason to "bash" him. The only thing i would like to see is an honest answer from him combined with a clear statement that he is not supporting any torrent sites. Doesn't this make any sense to you???? 
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|  10-22-2006, 07:03 AM | #120 | |
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|  10-22-2006, 07:26 AM | #121 | 
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				 | I hope Brujah is right. I guess whether you believe Aga's sudden departure from this thread indicates something positive or negative (since it could be seen either way) depends on whether you had made assumptions about him from the off. I must admit that this thread has been niggling me. Not because in its own right it isn't valid: simply because of the wider context. And it's not the only one. Within many of the threads about scumware, we have gone rambling off at various tangents to the point where inevitably interest faded and business carries on for the thieves just as before. Somewhere in the drama, most people seem to lose sight of the reality that some sponsors and some fellow affiliates are helping themselves to money from everyone else's wallets. How many more years will it be before more people grow up enough that this kind of issue finally moves past being an excuse to sig whore or build post counts (or simply ignore), to become something we automatically act upon? In the meantime, the only way those who are serious now have any hope of achieving anything is if they focus on one issue or even one sponsor at a time, and keep trying to drive the message home. And however much it goes against the grain for individual "entrepreneurs" to work in concert, doing so is the only way they can possibly achieve anything more than empty gestures. This year alone I have dropped sponsors for supporting content theft, providing discounts to review sites and now for being involved with scumware. That makes me feel better, but I'm not naive enough to believe it has made the slightest difference to the sponsors themselves. Someone needs to start bringing direction to all of this if these dramas are ever going to become something more effective. | 
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|  10-22-2006, 07:38 AM | #122 | 
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				 | I reported rapidshare to adsense several times back when they had it, I suppose I wasn't the only one because it eventually stopped using them, I tried reporting them to paypal due to the porn but I don't want to do it within my account and the only paypal addy I have is the phishing report box. If anyone knows a good email to report porn use in paypal that would be a good idea too.  I'm sorry Aga but rapidshare allows anyone to upload files, it's pretty logical that it's mainly used to pirate porn. They don't even have a takedown form for copyright holders. Reporting to the german authorities probably is a good idea too, especially with some really obscene files that get uploaded there sometimes | 
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|  10-22-2006, 09:18 AM | #123 | 
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				 | Porn and various other kinds of copyrighted material. 
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|  10-22-2006, 01:44 PM | #124 | 
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				 | Bump as many times as you like bro.. coz i meant every thing i said. The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely. I`ll bet you that Adult Friend Finder will not do the same though ;) | 
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|  10-22-2006, 01:48 PM | #125 | |
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    now that i trust 
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|  10-22-2006, 02:20 PM | #126 | |
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|  10-22-2006, 03:01 PM | #127 | 
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				 | Well done Aga 
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|  10-22-2006, 03:56 PM | #128 | 
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				 | what? That he is still sellling the adds on maybe the biggest torrent site? You are a joke! 
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|  10-22-2006, 04:14 PM | #129 | 
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				 | damn, sorry man, i have overseen the posts before you. again i'am really sorry and didn't see what your post was referred to!!! 
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|  10-22-2006, 04:17 PM | #130 | |
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 I agree on the AFF thing, and that's the reason i will remove each banner i have from each of my sites. Not that it doesn't matter at all but i don't want to be affilated with such sponsors too, not to talking about their affilation with zango. I'am with you on this, but as long as you have that spot there you have done not much than promises so far. 
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|  10-22-2006, 05:03 PM | #131 | 
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				 | aga is a good guy that has been around since the beginning. anyone who doesn't know that, is either a n00b or a troll... end of story. | 
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|  10-22-2006, 06:49 PM | #132 | |
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|  10-22-2006, 07:00 PM | #133 | 
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				 | i doubt a lawsuit from the biggest copyright infrigment website would have any chance of success. It's more than understandable to cut whatever contract is made until it's clear they are just and only illegal, but than again, i'am not a lawyer. 
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|  10-22-2006, 07:59 PM | #134 | 
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				 | this really sux big time... 
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|  10-22-2006, 08:06 PM | #135 | 
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				 | I was referring to NetpondAds having a reseller contract with etology and getting sued by them for breach of contract. Either way, it does appear that he's looking into getting this matter taken care of. 
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|  10-22-2006, 08:15 PM | #136 | |
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|  10-23-2006, 01:53 AM | #137 | 
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				 | Doesn't make sense because netpondads and etology are the same people!!!! 
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|  10-26-2006, 03:14 AM | #138 | 
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				 | uhmmm, rapidshare is still the #1 spot ot netpondads.com   
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|  10-28-2006, 06:08 AM | #139 | 
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				 | and still nothing done on netpondads.com, they are still advertising one of the biggest torrentsites (rapidshare.de)   
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|  10-28-2006, 07:47 AM | #140 | |
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|  10-29-2006, 02:32 AM | #141 | 
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				 | yes, would be good if he does what he promises, but he HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING so far against it, have this in mind please, so far it's only 3 weeks promises, nothing else! Will see how long it takes until they stop supporting rapidshare.de ......... 
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|  11-05-2006, 07:48 AM | #142 | 
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				 | 3 weeks left and still NO action from netpondads. Still selling ads for that pirate torrent site. Somehow i have a feeling that nothing will be handled as Aga loudly promised! Maybe netpondads wants to wait until this site gets shoot down by the authorities and meanwhile making some bucks with the US$ 4000 Spots they broker there???? 
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|  11-08-2006, 08:42 AM | #143 | 
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				 | wednesday bump,  going forward the 4th week without any action from Aga and netpondads/etology 
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|  11-08-2006, 08:48 AM | #144 | 
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				 | I thought he had stopped doing ads for them. Its a sad day when you have to lie aboutshit you have no intention of doing  AGA SUCKS DONKEY DICK pornonada it is not a torrent site it is filehosting site for illegal content but well done for staying on the case I forgot about this thread 
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				 | He didn't so far, it's still their top-spot there. Quote: 
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 no problem and don't worry, i won't forget to bump that thread several times per week even if it takes to christmas 2009 
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|  11-08-2006, 01:52 PM | #146 | 
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				 | why don't you go to Aga's board and ask him there, in case he hasn't been back here? 
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|  11-10-2006, 04:16 AM | #147 | 
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				 | because: - i'am not a member there, neither i see any need to join there - as i have said it earlier already, it's nothing personal against him, making me post on his board the same issue would bring in some personal-hate-touch in my opinion and that's not what i want to happen. - my answer and bumps are related to his responses and promises he made in this post and that is why i replied and bump it. As you can see it's not me who has begun this thread. But is there such a thread on his board too??? I doubt. is there any need he must come back to read this thread??? He promised and assured serveral times that he will not support Filesharing Sites but still is supporting them. It's not needed to read this thread everyday to take/make the actions needed and to show he is not supporting them, but he doesn't, so it seems it doesn't make much difference if he reads this thread or not as it just seems he doesn't really care about it. And as there are nearly 4 weeks left i just guess he hopes everything will just forget, just looks like that for me. 
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|  11-10-2006, 05:54 AM | #148 | 
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				 | has there been any legal action taken in the past against torrent sites, and p2p by the adult industry? | 
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|  11-11-2006, 03:11 AM | #149 | 
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				 | Saturday morning Bump 
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|  11-11-2006, 04:47 AM | #150 | 
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				 | I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product. That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet. If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them. As its so important to you, give me your email address and I`ll forward you my correspondance with them. | 
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