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RRRED · 07-02-2002, 12:10 PM

JOIN4FREE NEWS:

WEGCASH Re-Launches the Join4Free Program as WEG4FREE! 20 NEW Niche 4FREE sites are now live and ready to go.
This is a great opportunity for webmasters to start cashing in on the fresh new niches!

New 4FREE Sites:
Amateurporn4free.com
Analporn4free.com
Asiansex4free.com
Blackteens4free.com
Blackwomen4free.com
Blowjobs4free.com
Brunettes4free.com
Centerfolds4free.com
Cumwhores4free.com
Fuckcams4free.com
Gangbangs4free.com
GirlGirl4free.com
Hooters4free.com
Naughtywives4free.com
Orgasms4free.com
Penis4free.com***
Petite4free.com
Teensluts4free.com
Virgins4free.com
Virginteens4free.com

You can get banners and miscellaneous ads in the WEGCASH webmasters area.

***Penis4free.com will not be operational till July 3, 2002.

Payout Increase: EARN UP TO $16.30 per WEG4FREE Email Join*

*Earn up to $1.30 on your initial WEG4FREE Email join plus up to $15.00 on all bonus buck up-sells. Go to http://www.wegcash.com and get complete details.

JOIN4FREEGOLD NEWS:

As of July 1, 2002 our Gold sites will now be paying up to $25.00 per FREE Trial.
This will apply towards all Join4FreeGold and Males4FreeGold signups, plus any other 4FREE Gold sites in the future!!!!! (Hint Hint!)

COMING SOON!

Within the first week of August 2002 WEGCASH will be enhancing the 4FREEGOLD (FREE TRIAL) program up to 30 Gold sites. Webmasters will enjoy a fresh new alternative to FREE Trial $25 Payouts. Plus with the New WEG4FREE (Join4Free Sites) additions and the upcoming additional gold sites, webmasters will dramatically see an improvement on their WEG4FREE Bonus Buck up-sells from their initial WEG4FREE email joins.

We would also like to take this opportunity to introduce Tonda as the newest addition to the Wegcash team. We are excited and proud to have her as head of our content department. All questions regarding content or any other aspect of your business dealings with Wegcash can be directed to [email protected]

chAos-mAtrix · 07-02-2002, 12:42 PM

Welcome Tonda... I will be talking to you soon ....

RRRED · 07-02-2002, 01:13 PM

Don't start cheating on me chaos ;)

chAos-mAtrix · 07-02-2002, 01:19 PM

I would never cheat on you baby

TondaB · 07-02-2002, 01:50 PM

Chaos -

You can cheat on RRRed...She gets all the love anyways! HE HE HE

Look forward to talking with you.

Pipecrew · 07-02-2002, 01:58 PM

they must be feeling the Rath of FreeEnzinebucks

nocostporn · 07-02-2002, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
they must be feeling the Rath of FreeEnzinebucks

glad you said it before me

RRRED · 07-02-2002, 02:08 PM

Join4free has been around a very long time and we have been working on these sites since before free ezine bucks was launched. We have no problem with them. They have no problem with us. As a matter of fact, we send them traffic.

We are here to stay. You can send us traffic or you can choose not to. No skin off my ass

**Hawg icq me sometime. Would love to chat with you

meRx · 07-02-2002, 02:46 PM

I wonder if thier webmaster stats area still has popups...
Thats why i stopped using wegcash . What webmaster wants to check his stats and have to deal with pop up spam.. i mean we're webamasters not surfers. They most likely changed it by now though. I'll check you guys out again later this week.

RRRED · 07-02-2002, 03:00 PM

We never did have that. If you went to Join4free.com to click "webmasters" at the bottom everytime you logged in, that might be the problem.

Try http://wegcash.com/ and you will not have problems with pop ups.

PissOff · 07-02-2002, 04:32 PM

Quick Question:

Do you pay more then once per email. ie: If [email protected] signs up for the Amateur Site and then signs up for the hooters site, will your affiliate recieve $1.30 or will he/she receive $2.60.

Thanks

RRRED · 07-02-2002, 07:52 PM

We are not seperating the lists as of yet...we have it on the table to discuss for future consideration, but right now if they signup for one site they are in to all the sites. That's a good point you should get across to your surfers. It will give them more reason to sign up and less reason to unsubscribe. Conversions up and deductions down.

If your surfer DOES opt out they can always opt in again and the webmaster would get paid. We do not cancel the ability to signup again.

.:Frog:. · 07-03-2002, 02:39 AM

RRRED - Please open more gold sites.
I've heard they convert like mad and $25 per signup sounds great.

Wish you had 8 to 12 of them, instead of just 2.

sexmanic · 07-03-2002, 03:09 AM

spam-a-lama-ding-dong you fucking cock sucker kiss asses.

sexmanic · 07-03-2002, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by .:Frog:.
RRRED - Please open more gold sites.
I've heard they convert like mad and $25 per signup sounds great.

Wish you had 8 to 12 of them, instead of just 2.

RRRED, please let me suckle your nuts. haha

hyper · 07-03-2002, 03:39 AM

Why is there a deduction column in my Join4free stats?
If the surfer cancels their membership within 15 days, we will deduct the amount paid to you

ahh i remember this..

.:Frog:. · 07-03-2002, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexmanic
spam-a-lama-ding-dong you fucking cock sucker kiss asses.

Buddy I've never used wegcash in my life so I'm not trying to kiss their ass.
I only said "please" to be polite.
If they had a more sites I would make a full page ad and promote them all.
With just 2 sites is a waste of time for me.

Besides I was asking RRRED something, not you.

RRRED · 07-03-2002, 08:29 AM

In August we will have up to 30 new Gold sites. Each niche will have a matching Gold for upsell. PLUS... there will be some surprise sites non related to membership porn coming up here within the next week or so.

And you guys, he can suckle my left nut if he wants to.

Mazer Rackus · 07-03-2002, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexmanic
spam-a-lama-ding-dong you fucking cock sucker kiss asses.

aaahahahahah, so true

WegCash is a joke

Free Ezine Bucke blew you out of the fucking water so now you haveta copy them and make more of your crappy sites

as for you asskissers...... , aaa fuck it

Mazer Rackus · 07-03-2002, 08:50 AM

and RRRED - ALLl your posts are lame spam......you got a GFY account only for that reason

Wizzo · 07-03-2002, 08:52 AM

RRRED, good to see you around! Hope to see you in Fl.

Mazer Rackus · 07-03-2002, 08:55 AM

Can you tell me why when new people come on the board and spam - they get bashed and when supposedly "big" people spam they get welcomes ?

wannabeapornstar · 07-03-2002, 08:58 AM

do you pay via paypal?

nocostporn · 07-03-2002, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mazer Rackus
Can you tell me why when new people come on the board and spam - they get bashed and when supposedly "big" people spam they get welcomes ?

they pay $2500 for advertising ya fuck up

Tex Willer · 07-03-2002, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mazer Rackus
Can you tell me why when new people come on the board and spam - they get bashed and when supposedly "big" people spam they get welcomes ?

it's not that

i've heard she's hot =)

FATPad · 07-03-2002, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mazer Rackus
Can you tell me why when new people come on the board and spam - they get bashed and when supposedly "big" people spam they get welcomes ?

You didn't read the owner's manual for life did you?

nocostporn · 07-03-2002, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tex Willer

it's not that

i've heard she's hot =)

and no lol

Mazer Rackus · 07-03-2002, 09:06 AM

more asskissers are crawling out - great

pr0 · 07-03-2002, 09:07 AM

awsome... the new site's look really good

hyper · 07-03-2002, 09:33 AM

like i said..

surfer signs up
they get so called advertising specials in their email 10 times a day.

surfer gets pissed off and unsubscribes within 15 days

you get $0

Pipecrew · 07-03-2002, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
like i said..

surfer signs up
they get so called advertising specials in their email 10 times a day.

surfer gets pissed off and unsubscribes within 15 days

you get $0

It gets better! we dont get the money, join4free sells the surfers email address to 1000 other companies, surfer still gets an extra 200 emails a day

Snake Doctor · 07-03-2002, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRRED

And you guys, he can suckle my left nut if he wants to.

Can I have the right one? And afterwards we'll be pounding you.........with traffic

Great news RRRed, I think the 4free upsell niche sites are going to click ass!

hyper · 07-03-2002, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew

It gets better! we dont get the money, join4free sells the surfers email address to 1000 other companies, surfer still gets an extra 200 emails a day

really? let me sign right up

RRRED · 07-03-2002, 10:09 AM

Mazer Rackus I've been a poster here from the very beginning. I believe it was even before I worked with Join4free or around that time anyway. Very rarely do I post except to answer a question related to our company, announce something new that our webmasters might be interested in, or for mere amusement. If it affects your life so much, skim past everything I say. It's not going to keep me from making my car payment this month ;)

pro and Lenny2 thanks

hyper, more like the surfer signs up and gets 2 emails, with free picture galleries and jokes every day. The webmasters who know how to promote free sites also know how to get them to trust us and stay. If you're promising them 150,000 full length videos they are going to unsubscribe. Our deduction percentages across the board have lowered in the past couple months from about 15% to 10%. Now if you consider a payout of $1.10 - $1.30 do the math. There's nothing to complain about.

Pipecrew I hope you have proof to back up your claims ;) Never ever have we sold our email addresses to ANYONE. Why the hell would we do that? Our list would be worthless. Do you think the folks who created Join4free don't realize this? Give me a break.

Mazer Rackus · 07-03-2002, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Very rarely do I post except to....blah blah..., announce something new that our webmasters might be interested in

why not send an e-mail announcement newsletter to your webmasters like all decent companys do ? Oh, i know ! Posting it on GFY will spam thousands more webmasters

P.S.

fyi, your signature violates GFY terms

RRRED · 07-03-2002, 10:50 AM

I'm sure if I've done something wrong here, lens would get ahold of me and let me know.... Thanks for you deeply intense concern though.

TondaB · 07-03-2002, 11:04 AM

OMG RRRed...you are going to get in trouble for violating the terms!!!

OOOOH you are such a bad girl

Aly-Python · 07-03-2002, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TondaB
OMG RRRed...

...OOOOH you are such a bad girl

That's why we LOVE her, isn't it?

woodyxxx · 07-03-2002, 12:03 PM

Hey Rrred, don't mind Pipecrew....the only thing he does on this board is beeing negative about everything.

Tex Willer · 07-03-2002, 12:14 PM

why there's no balloons4free site?

Ace-Ace · 07-03-2002, 12:20 PM

Hey,

I liked WEG's programs, payouts, and banner selection. The only problems I had was actual conversion. Using Emailbucks / Freezinebucks (FEB being non-remote boxes), I'm receiving a much higher conversion.

Maybe it's just me, anybody else seeing this? Other than that...great program.

Kevin

LoveAsianChicks · 07-03-2002, 12:43 PM

Join4free conversion rates are worse then FEB (for me) and the deductions were often times 30% and I didn't bullshit the surfer.
I linked to the wegcash site using a screen shot and told the surfer he can join for free & didn't need a CC. (that was all)
Bad conversions & brutal deductions really turned me off the J4F aspect on the program. Not to mention I rarely ever saw an upsell.

However I sent some traffic to the gold site and was making more money per click then sending traffic to the free sites.

My run down:
Join4Free - Not great (sorry but true)
GoldSites - Kick ASS!!!

Once you open more gold sites & the payout is $25 I will promote them pretty hard. I'm afraid though that FEB & emailbucks do a better job on the e-mail signup sites (my personal results).

RRRED · 07-03-2002, 01:21 PM

Woody, yeah there always has to be someone to try and pop the smoothely floating balloon ;) speaking of which, Tex I'm sorry we don't have a site like that but if we were to be able to find enough content, it's a possibility for sure.

Ace and Asianchicks, I'm not sure how you guys were promoting or when, but PLEASE if you find that your conversions are dropping, let me know. We want nothing more than to help you get the most out of your traffic. We recently changed the front end of our general Join4free tour. We do this regularly when things start to get saturated.

Anyhow, with all these new niche sites, there's just more ways to make money with it. I just can't wait for the new Gold sites to be completed. This will improve things even more.

And for you guys who want or need frequent updated content, I urge you to try out our pic of the hour program too. There are no consoles, it's free content for your site, and you get paid full price of $25.00 per Gold signup and $30 for EP signups. There are plenty of niches to choose from so give it a shot and see what happens.

Lastly, I was made aware that our remote boxes which pay 85 cents per email will work with all the new niche sites. Just change the url within the code and get those puppies up. Thanks again for all the valid comments and questions.

***OH and Aly you're keeping me in suspense. I can't wait for our visit

))

07-02-2002, 12:10 PM	#1
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Wegcash recent News - New sites and a pay raise! JOIN4FREE NEWS: WEGCASH Re-Launches the Join4Free Program as WEG4FREE! 20 NEW Niche 4FREE sites are now live and ready to go. This is a great opportunity for webmasters to start cashing in on the fresh new niches! New 4FREE Sites: Amateurporn4free.com Analporn4free.com Asiansex4free.com Blackteens4free.com Blackwomen4free.com Blowjobs4free.com Brunettes4free.com Centerfolds4free.com Cumwhores4free.com Fuckcams4free.com Gangbangs4free.com GirlGirl4free.com Hooters4free.com Naughtywives4free.com Orgasms4free.com Penis4free.com* Petite4free.com Teensluts4free.com Virgins4free.com Virginteens4free.com You can get banners and miscellaneous ads in the WEGCASH webmasters area. Penis4free.com will not be operational till July 3, 2002. Payout Increase: EARN UP TO $16.30 per WEG4FREE Email Join *Earn up to $1.30 on your initial WEG4FREE Email join plus up to $15.00 on all bonus buck up-sells. Go to http://www.wegcash.com and get complete details. JOIN4FREEGOLD NEWS: As of July 1, 2002 our Gold sites will now be paying up to $25.00 per FREE Trial. This will apply towards all Join4FreeGold and Males4FreeGold signups, plus any other 4FREE Gold sites in the future!!!!! (Hint Hint!) COMING SOON! Within the first week of August 2002 WEGCASH will be enhancing the 4FREEGOLD (FREE TRIAL) program up to 30 Gold sites. Webmasters will enjoy a fresh new alternative to FREE Trial $25 Payouts. Plus with the New WEG4FREE (Join4Free Sites) additions and the upcoming additional gold sites, webmasters will dramatically see an improvement on their WEG4FREE Bonus Buck up-sells from their initial WEG4FREE email joins. We would also like to take this opportunity to introduce Tonda as the newest addition to the Wegcash team. We are excited and proud to have her as head of our content department. All questions regarding content or any other aspect of your business dealings with Wegcash can be directed to [email protected]

07-02-2002, 02:46 PM	#9
meRx Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oahu , Hawaii Posts: 362	I wonder if thier webmaster stats area still has popups... Thats why i stopped using wegcash . What webmaster wants to check his stats and have to deal with pop up spam.. i mean we're webamasters not surfers. They most likely changed it by now though. I'll check you guys out again later this week. __________________ <a href="http://www.freeezinebucks.com/ps.php?s=feb&u=merxxx"><font size="2">FreeZineBucks</font></a> <font size="2"> EASY MONEY! Earn $1.00/email address! NO DEDUCTIONS!</font> <a href="http://www.contentlotto.com/index.php?account=merx"><font size="2">ContentLotto</font></a> <font size="2"> Win Free Content , Hosting , Traffic , Site Designs & more! Why pay?</font>

07-03-2002, 03:39 AM	#16
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	Why is there a deduction column in my Join4free stats? If the surfer cancels their membership within 15 days, we will deduct the amount paid to you ahh i remember this.. __________________

07-03-2002, 08:52 AM	#21
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	RRRED, good to see you around! Hope to see you in Fl. __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

07-03-2002, 08:58 AM	#23
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07-02-2002, 12:42 PM	#2
chAos-mAtrix Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: FUCKING Los Angeles Posts: 111	Welcome Tonda... I will be talking to you soon ....

07-02-2002, 01:13 PM	#3
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Don't start cheating on me chaos ;)

07-02-2002, 01:19 PM	#4
chAos-mAtrix Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: FUCKING Los Angeles Posts: 111	I would never cheat on you baby

07-02-2002, 01:50 PM	#5
TondaB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,162	Chaos - You can cheat on RRRed...She gets all the love anyways! HE HE HE Look forward to talking with you.

07-02-2002, 01:58 PM	#6
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	they must be feeling the Rath of FreeEnzinebucks

07-02-2002, 02:08 PM	#8
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Join4free has been around a very long time and we have been working on these sites since before free ezine bucks was launched. We have no problem with them. They have no problem with us. As a matter of fact, we send them traffic. We are here to stay. You can send us traffic or you can choose not to. No skin off my ass **Hawg icq me sometime. Would love to chat with you

07-02-2002, 03:00 PM	#10
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	We never did have that. If you went to Join4free.com to click "webmasters" at the bottom everytime you logged in, that might be the problem. Try http://wegcash.com/ and you will not have problems with pop ups.

07-02-2002, 04:32 PM	#11
PissOff Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 28	Quick Question: Do you pay more then once per email. ie: If [email protected] signs up for the Amateur Site and then signs up for the hooters site, will your affiliate recieve $1.30 or will he/she receive $2.60. Thanks

07-02-2002, 07:52 PM	#12
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	We are not seperating the lists as of yet...we have it on the table to discuss for future consideration, but right now if they signup for one site they are in to all the sites. That's a good point you should get across to your surfers. It will give them more reason to sign up and less reason to unsubscribe. Conversions up and deductions down. If your surfer DOES opt out they can always opt in again and the webmaster would get paid. We do not cancel the ability to signup again.

07-03-2002, 02:39 AM	#13
.:Frog:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ~ C A N A D A ~ Posts: 2,123	RRRED - Please open more gold sites. I've heard they convert like mad and $25 per signup sounds great. Wish you had 8 to 12 of them, instead of just 2.

07-03-2002, 03:09 AM	#14
sexmanic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: smega bowls Posts: 196	spam-a-lama-ding-dong you fucking cock sucker kiss asses.

07-03-2002, 08:29 AM	#18
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	In August we will have up to 30 new Gold sites. Each niche will have a matching Gold for upsell. PLUS... there will be some surprise sites non related to membership porn coming up here within the next week or so. And you guys, he can suckle my left nut if he wants to.

07-03-2002, 08:50 AM	#20
Mazer Rackus So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 333	and RRRED - ALLl your posts are lame spam......you got a GFY account only for that reason

07-03-2002, 08:55 AM	#22
Mazer Rackus So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 333	Can you tell me why when new people come on the board and spam - they get bashed and when supposedly "big" people spam they get welcomes ?

07-03-2002, 09:06 AM	#28
Mazer Rackus So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 333	more asskissers are crawling out - great

07-03-2002, 09:07 AM	#29
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	awsome... the new site's look really good

07-03-2002, 09:33 AM	#30
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	like i said.. surfer signs up they get so called advertising specials in their email 10 times a day. surfer gets pissed off and unsubscribes within 15 days you get $0 __________________

07-03-2002, 10:09 AM	#34
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Mazer Rackus I've been a poster here from the very beginning. I believe it was even before I worked with Join4free or around that time anyway. Very rarely do I post except to answer a question related to our company, announce something new that our webmasters might be interested in, or for mere amusement. If it affects your life so much, skim past everything I say. It's not going to keep me from making my car payment this month ;) pro and Lenny2 thanks hyper, more like the surfer signs up and gets 2 emails, with free picture galleries and jokes every day. The webmasters who know how to promote free sites also know how to get them to trust us and stay. If you're promising them 150,000 full length videos they are going to unsubscribe. Our deduction percentages across the board have lowered in the past couple months from about 15% to 10%. Now if you consider a payout of $1.10 - $1.30 do the math. There's nothing to complain about. Pipecrew I hope you have proof to back up your claims ;) Never ever have we sold our email addresses to ANYONE. Why the hell would we do that? Our list would be worthless. Do you think the folks who created Join4free don't realize this? Give me a break.

07-03-2002, 10:50 AM	#36
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	I'm sure if I've done something wrong here, lens would get ahold of me and let me know.... Thanks for you deeply intense concern though.

07-03-2002, 11:04 AM	#37
TondaB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,162	OMG RRRed...you are going to get in trouble for violating the terms!!! OOOOH you are such a bad girl

07-03-2002, 12:03 PM	#39
woodyxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 139	Hey Rrred, don't mind Pipecrew....the only thing he does on this board is beeing negative about everything. __________________ 35$ Per Signup.Feel a little Xtreme?

07-03-2002, 12:14 PM	#40
Tex Willer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,105	why there's no balloons4free site?

07-03-2002, 12:20 PM	#41
Ace-Ace Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dayton, OH, USA Posts: 1,863	Hey, I liked WEG's programs, payouts, and banner selection. The only problems I had was actual conversion. Using Emailbucks / Freezinebucks (FEB being non-remote boxes), I'm receiving a much higher conversion. Maybe it's just me, anybody else seeing this? Other than that...great program. Kevin

07-03-2002, 12:43 PM	#42
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Join4free conversion rates are worse then FEB (for me) and the deductions were often times 30% and I didn't bullshit the surfer. I linked to the wegcash site using a screen shot and told the surfer he can join for free & didn't need a CC. (that was all) Bad conversions & brutal deductions really turned me off the J4F aspect on the program. Not to mention I rarely ever saw an upsell. However I sent some traffic to the gold site and was making more money per click then sending traffic to the free sites. My run down: Join4Free - Not great (sorry but true) GoldSites - Kick ASS!!! Once you open more gold sites & the payout is $25 I will promote them pretty hard. I'm afraid though that FEB & emailbucks do a better job on the e-mail signup sites (my personal results). Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 07-03-2002 at 12:45 PM..

07-03-2002, 01:21 PM	#43
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Woody, yeah there always has to be someone to try and pop the smoothely floating balloon ;) speaking of which, Tex I'm sorry we don't have a site like that but if we were to be able to find enough content, it's a possibility for sure. Ace and Asianchicks, I'm not sure how you guys were promoting or when, but PLEASE if you find that your conversions are dropping, let me know. We want nothing more than to help you get the most out of your traffic. We recently changed the front end of our general Join4free tour. We do this regularly when things start to get saturated. Anyhow, with all these new niche sites, there's just more ways to make money with it. I just can't wait for the new Gold sites to be completed. This will improve things even more. And for you guys who want or need frequent updated content, I urge you to try out our pic of the hour program too. There are no consoles, it's free content for your site, and you get paid full price of $25.00 per Gold signup and $30 for EP signups. There are plenty of niches to choose from so give it a shot and see what happens. Lastly, I was made aware that our remote boxes which pay 85 cents per email will work with all the new niche sites. Just change the url within the code and get those puppies up. Thanks again for all the valid comments and questions. ***OH and Aly you're keeping me in suspense. I can't wait for our visit ))