Why I Publically Support .xxx

[scottybuzz]

Why I publically support .XXX

Here is my manifesto, if you dont like it please reply and show your point of view, if you like it please reply and show your support, if your just a loner who just wants to rip on someone, go fuck yourself

I have changed my name, because some people I do not want to fall out with because of this.

So why do I support xxx?

Ask me a couple of months ago, whatever go fuckyourself xxx I want money money money.

But why should the internet be any different from other sources of media and communication. For example mainstream television has a time limit on what it shows, when obviously kids have gone to bed. Ok it does not stop them, but nor will .xxx completly. With sky tv (cable) there are speical limits, such as channels 900 - 999 being reserved for adult channels and there are codes and passwords in place to get them.
For telephones there are speical numbers that you have to call
For newspapers and magazines with porn in they are on the top shelf.

So why not the internet? Isnt it time people started realising that the internet is not a seperate place, that it is not another world and that things that happen on the internet are becoming more to real life and people and more and more facing actions as a result of their internet actions, positive of negative. Just because the internet is a different, new media that allows everyone to use it, why should the rules be different?

There is no point arguing that .xxx will stop kids getting to porn, because to method in practise would ever stop kids getting porn, none at all. However what it will do is stop the vast majority and bulk of young internet users aged ...-12. Those are the children that need to be protected from pornography and that is what the .xxx will stop.

There is no point arguing that parents should look after their children more, sure you can argue it, but it will make no difference, parents worldwide are not going to listen, its in the culture that some parents wont look after their kids. Would you want to be with your kids 24/7, I get sick of mine after a while, I do love them, but you know what I mean. If parents were to look after their kids we would still be in the 17th century where kids worked on the farm all day. Times have changed. This is why laws are in place.

The only reason I can see your all against this is because it will affect your sales. But look at other industries in the world, none is quite like the internet porn business where anyone with a computer, internet connection and $20 can start up. Welcome to the real business world, things will heat up in the next couple of years and those who do not have the credentials can kiss their asses goodbye the big dogs, just like in any other industry will take over


Thankyou for reading.

[After Shock Media]

1. Ghettos are bad, mmkay.
2. Not enforceable world wide thus giving the US a trade disadvantage.
3. To easy for special interest groups to lobby against assorted ISPs to make .XXX access available by request only.
4. Unfair to those that registered .coms .nets and such early on in the business.
5. Who gets the .xxx the .com owner, the .net owner, the .org owner, or whomever grabs it first?
6. Engines could and may be forced to cap listing results so that .xxx only appears in pornographic keywords only. Possibly no listings at all if the default filters are left in place.
7. Possible premium yearly rate on domain registrations and renewals.
8. Possible US taxes on .xxx registrations and renewals. Think a sin tax.
9. It accomplishes nothing that a kids safe tld could or would. A kids safe tld could be made safe from day one with no back peddling or downsides, and just as easily be set for safe browsing.
10. There is no real definition on what pornography really is and therefore without a definition who is to say what belongs there and what other types of content would be slowly pushed in that direction.

[mattz]

too long to read

[JD]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

I have changed my name, because some people I do not want to fall out with because of this.

Then you're a real spineless pussy. Please go die in a gutter somewhere.

[scottybuzz]

please read start of post again. morons like you should not be allowed out during the day

[madawgz]

Originally Posted by mattz

too long to read

yeah, i got lost in it

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

Then you're a real spineless pussy. Please go die in a gutter somewhere.

What he said ...


.

[mattz]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

1. Ghettos are bad, mmkay.
2. Not enforceable world wide thus giving the US a trade disadvantage.
3. To easy for special interest groups to lobby against assorted ISPs to make .XXX access available by request only.
4. Unfair to those that registered .coms .nets and such early on in the business.
5. Who gets the .xxx the .com owner, the .net owner, the .org owner, or whomever grabs it first?
6. Engines could and may be forced to cap listing results so that .xxx only appears in pornographic keywords only. Possibly no listings at all if the default filters are left in place.
7. Possible premium yearly rate on domain registrations and renewals.
8. Possible US taxes on .xxx registrations and renewals. Think a sin tax.
9. It accomplishes nothing that a kids safe tld could or would. A kids safe tld could be made safe from day one with no back peddling or downsides, and just as easily be set for safe browsing.
10. There is no real definition on what pornography really is and therefore without a definition who is to say what belongs there and what other types of content would be slowly pushed in that direction.

thats right!

[mattz]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

1. Ghettos are bad, mmkay.
5. Who gets the .xxx the .com owner, the .net owner, the .org owner, or whomever grabs it first?

also interested in that

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by madawgz

yeah, i got lost in it

you spend your life on here, your reading all the time, cant you give 5 mins?

[mattz]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

you spend your life on here, your reading all the time, cant you give 5 mins?

no im busy

[chris01282]

the internet does not belong to the US government

and you are full of shit, so GFY...

[ronaldo]

You mention some valid points, as does After Shock Media.

[scottybuzz]

why I bother I dont know, whats the point with gfy, like my post said anyone with a pc can become a webmaster, and this is the result.


cya fags

hope all you shit talkers get fucked with .xxx

[Tom_PM]

All any child will have to do is type any word and add ".xxx" to it. Tell me how that stops them from seeing porn again?

The way it WILL stop people of all ages from seeing porn is when people realise what a huge mistake it was, then pass laws banning adult materials to only .xxx domains. Then ISP's filtering all .xxx out of their caches. That'll work alright! But why is good again?

Your'e right, for children we build playgrounds that are kid-safe. We make childrens books with kid friendly themes. We dont wall off everything else FROM children, and we dont burn every book that could POTENTIALLY be considered offensive for a child..

And US TV ratings etc. are a poor argument because they do nothing. They are a good argument for labelling your HTML pages though.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by chris01282

the internet does not belong to the US government

and you are full of shit, so GFY...

the internet is under american rules.

edit- what I mean by that is that all the main countries who are allowed to surf porn abide my usa laws

those faggots who dont and who hate america, have no real source of income flowing into the internet


there are some bad sites out there, but no americans can surf them

please are you even a webmaster?

[ronaldo]

But I must say, if you're posting anonymously, you're not publically supporting .xxx.

[Socks]

Scotty, if you stand up for something, you shouldn't be scared to lose business because of your opinion. Are you scared of losing sales, too?

[FetishWeb]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

The only reason I can see your all against this is because it will affect your sales. But look at other industries in the world, none is quite like the internet porn business where anyone with a computer, internet connection and $20 can start up. Welcome to the real business world, things will heat up in the next couple of years and those who do not have the credentials can kiss their asses goodbye the big dogs, just like in any other industry will take over

Anyone an ISP and PC can setup any website, porn or not. Arguing in favour of .XXX so the "big dogs" can take over is about the stupidest thing I've read here.

Agree or not, approval or not, a real-world implementation of .XXX will result in nearly every usable .XXX domain name in the hands of the big time speculators. The .EU landrush should have made that obvious to any casual idiot who doesn't know anything about the domain industry.

[Socks]

I heard someone say that it would "open the playing field" for the small guys. How exactly? Small guys don't have thousands of dollars to spend on 10's of domain names? :P Besides, my site makes bank and my domain name sucks, and it cost me $10.

[RogerV7]

let it end on .xxx and childeren will have unlimted access to free online porn. they know it will always endup getting porn on your screen. that one thing that isn't smart. and it is not up to the parents to protect their childeren from what to watch and what not to watch. that is what they when childeren are watching tv. Let them do that when they are surfing. Then we still have the 16 till just before 18. Let them see what it is about if they wont do it at this age they sure will when they turn 18. I think that united states is thinking that they control net and can tell the world what to do. And yes i know in europe you don't have to follow their rules but then again we do.

They should pend their money on getting out of dept as they are almost the poorest country on the freaking globe. But instead they are going to spend thousands on making up stupid internet laws. Some put some up their with brains.

damn

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

Then you're a real spineless pussy. Please go die in a gutter somewhere.

I agree

If you feel strongly enough about this then you would not be hiding behind a 2 cent fake nick. I guess you are worried about people in the industry wanting nothing to do with you once they find out your true feelings about this bullshit .XXX.

[chris01282]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

the internet is under american rules.

edit- what I mean by that is that all the main countries who are allowed to surf porn abide my usa laws

those faggots who dont and who hate america, have no real source of income flowing into the internet


there are some bad sites out there, but no americans can surf them

please are you even a webmaster?

yes, and I am also a full time IT engineer who has forgotten more about DNS resolution than you will ever know

do you really think that if US run domain names stop, the entire internet will die?
what about ip addresses?
do you even know what an ip address is?

[scottybuzz]

well tell me chris if your such an expert, why the childporn industry isnt booming in america, like it is in the eastern world where there are no rules, yet there are rules in america or europe where the laws are upheld.


I quite frankly couldnt give a fuck about your qualifications when you hold no common sense whatsoever

[Xplicit]

It really is a horrible argument when you think GLOBALLY, which you are not.

The internet is world wide, every modern countries population is online, from America to Europe, to Asia.

.xxx will lead to U.S. laws, and maye some in the EU and Canada. The problem is, it still leaves hundreds of countries webmasters will host their sites from, and incorperate their business in.

This means this MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR *TAXED* AMERICAN INDUSTRY WILL NO LONGER BE PAYING TAXES IN THE USA!!!

I wish someone would crunch the exact numbers on how much America will lose in taxes, and how much forign countries stand to make, I gurantee the ammount would be shocking.

Your opinion shows immaturity, and very little understanding of what the internet really is (a global network), and obviously no clue on economics.

I'm actually shocked anyone would go public with opinions so stupid that you compared regulating porn LOCAL stores with a fucking WORLD-WIDE network.

::sigh::

[SongRider]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

But I must say, if you're posting anonymously, you're not publically supporting .xxx.

I have to publically agree with this.....

[chris01282]

location has nothing to do with it, and changing .com to .xxx will not stop CP

most of it is spread via p2p and email beween networks of pedo's

how many websites do you know off that are called CP.com or similar, whereby a pedo can use a credit card to get a membership for that kind of thing?

it's all underground stuff, and will stay that way regardless of 2257, .xxx or whatever the governments try to do about

they have been fighting a grugs war for years, but drugs are still available all over the world

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

If you were truly "Publicly Supporting" .XXX then ya would not have a fake nic to do it. Public Support means a real person and real name.

So...

You are a troll.

Have some balls like I did and then you can truly say ya came out and publicly supported it

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

well tell me chris if your such an expert, why the childporn industry isnt booming in america, like it is in the eastern world where there are no rules, yet there are rules in america or europe where the laws are upheld.


I quite frankly couldnt give a fuck about your qualifications when you hold no common sense whatsoever

you just won the first prize ...




and this is my real nick ( i don't have any other anyway... )

[scottybuzz]

im not talking about .xxx to do with cp,

im using cp as an example of how a u.s. rule managed to stop it all


please pay attention

[Barefootsies]

Grow a pair, then hang them out there.

Otherwise it's little more than a Klansman's dunce cap.

[chris01282]

well what do you think .xxx and 2257 were thought up for in the first place?

anyway, enough of this shit, time to fess up

who the fuck are you really?

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by chris01282

well what do you think .xxx and 2257 were thought up for in the first place?

anyway, enough of this shit, time to fess up

who the fuck are you really?

So politicians could claim a "victory" and use it in their reelection campaigns?

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by chris01282

location has nothing to do with it, and changing .com to .xxx will not stop CP

This is just pissing me off now.

There is absolutely no law, now, in the past or in the future that will stop CP production and distribution and anyone claiming to have the answer is simply full of shit and using it to further their own agenda, or line their own pockets. The .xxx tld falls into the exact same category.

LAW ABIDING webmasters get in a tizzy over the slightest possible changes because it DOES or CAN affect their income. But we're already abiding by the current laws. Any potential changes will be detrimental to our income or force us to spend into our LEGAL profits to comply with NEW laws.

Meanwhile, those producing or distributing CP don't give two shits about any NEW laws or tld's, because they're already breaking the CURRENT laws.

Law abiding webmasters will, if forced by law, buy their .xxx domains. CP producers and distributers will ONLY buy those domains to hide amongst the legal porn. If .xxx doesn't somehow help them or like I said, HIDE them, what do they care about .xxx domains?

It in NO way will STOP or curb any illegal production and anyone believing that is blind, stupid or have ulterior motives. End of story.

P.S. I have no problem with people trying to make money, but don't do it under the guise of protecting our children. That's just weak. Stand up and say it's for profit, because that's all it is.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

im not talking about .xxx to do with cp,

im using cp as an example of how a u.s. rule managed to stop it all


please pay attention

I thought you were a spineless pussy in the beginning post, now I think you are a spineless, ignorant pussy.

I find it amusing that you were dumb enough to include your Mayor's Money referral ID in your sig (http://nats.mayorsmoney.com/track/NDA3ODo3Ojg/) . . . you really think people will sign up under you, or that someone won't go thru all the Mayors Money sigs and find out which is yours?

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

But why should the internet be any different from other sources of media and communication. For example mainstream television has a time limit on what it shows, when obviously kids have gone to bed. Ok it does not stop them, but nor will .xxx completly. With sky tv (cable) there are speical limits, such as channels 900 - 999 being reserved for adult channels and there are codes and passwords in place to get them.

You are conveniently overlooking the fact that usable filtering methods are already available and parents will have to use those same methods to exclude the new TLD from what their children can access. What reason is there to imagine that the creation of an adult-specific TLD will encourage more parents to play an active role in deciding what their children can see online?

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

The only reason I can see your all against this is because it will affect your sales. But look at other industries in the world, none is quite like the internet porn business where anyone with a computer, internet connection and $20 can start up. Welcome to the real business world, things will heat up in the next couple of years and those who do not have the credentials can kiss their asses goodbye the big dogs, just like in any other industry will take over.

That is nonsense. The only minors who can buy porn are those with access to someone's credit card or bank details. Against that tiny minority are millions more who simply soak up bandwidth.

You are right about the ridiculously low entry level for this business, but what does that have to do with the issue at hand? The only immediate financial impact of this TLD is that anyone who wants to protect mirrors of his .com domains will have to pay $60+ a year each to do so. That does not give the "big dogs" any advantage: they will be paying just like the rest of us.

All you appear to be suggesting is that we go along with a transparently dishonest ploy to transfer money we have earned to a very small group of people who have done nothing to earn it except make sordid backroom deals with others similarly lacking in ethics.

[Sparks]

Lol, wow Scotty... I think most of us can tell from your post that you are not a real experienced webmaster... especially in adult. I'm newer than some around here, but most of your points sound very unresearched and uneducated.

First, you post on a fake nick.... no balls. No one on this board with any reputation or who has worked in this industry for any extended period of time would be for .xxx for the reasons that you are. One of the great things about this industry is you don't have to be a "big timer" to make some cash. There are people here who make a couple hundred bucks a month, so several thousand, to hundreds of thousands. Why should the "big dogs" take over? Ever heard of a monopoly or an oligopoly...neither would do the porn industry any good... and don't do most industries any good. The porn industry would not survive with either, and quite honestly a lot of sponsors would have a hard time without us affiliates.

So what's the real problem with minors accessing porn? THEY are looking for it. I was 12 once and I wanted free porn. I went to my favorite search engine (AltaVista at the time) and searched for it. I simply clicked the "Enter" button and BAM I had free porn. So what would have stopped me? At the time I knew WAY more about computers than my parents and there wasn't even such a thing as a filter then. So, here is what RESPONSIBLE parents should do;

1. Setup a username for their children on their computer
2. Setup filters to block porn
3. SUPERVISE their children while they are using the internet

Children are accessing porn because they want to. It is not accident when some 12 year old goes to realsmutty.com... If they type in that domain they know what they are doing, or found it through a search engine with some terms that they shouldn't be using.

Don't want to look after your children all day long? Tough shit. Until they are 18 you are legally responsible for their actions (In the good ol' USA, anyways). I agree you can't spend every waking moment of the day with them, but be proactive and setup filters, their own usernames, ect. so they can't access it.

Your arguments are weaker than your spelling and grammer. You attack the webmaster profession because entry into the market is so easy, but just by seeing how you write tells me it would be difficult for you to enter just about any indusrty. If you are going to come here to attack our profession, do it in an educated, supported, and professional manner.

[nofx]

you're a fucking retard, i'm glad you changed yer nick because yer a coward.

[2HousePlague]

2hp

[nofx]

.xxx is a ploy developed by icann using the guise of 'protecting children' and 'the adult community wants it' to make TONS and TONS of money for them.

fuck icann and fuck you

[sfera]

they fight goes on

[JumpStreet21]

GFY is full of class a morons all they can come up with is a bunch of what if's .xxx is just like .com .biz .info etc etc

[polle54]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

the internet is under american rules.

edit- what I mean by that is that all the main countries who are allowed to surf porn abide my usa laws

those faggots who dont and who hate america, have no real source of income flowing into the internet


there are some bad sites out there, but no americans can surf them

please are you even a webmaster?

scotty I read your thread with open eyes but you just showed a great deal of ignorence here.

You clearly do not have a clue whats going on.

[pornpf69]

if you want kids to be safe make a TLD called .KIDS
which will only be used to tods....so screw the XXX tld!!!

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Sparks

Lol, wow Scotty... I think most of us can tell from your post that you are not a real experienced webmaster... especially in adult. I'm newer than some around here, but most of your points sound very unresearched and uneducated.

First, you post on a fake nick.... no balls. No one on this board with any reputation or who has worked in this industry for any extended period of time would be for .xxx for the reasons that you are. One of the great things about this industry is you don't have to be a "big timer" to make some cash. There are people here who make a couple hundred bucks a month, so several thousand, to hundreds of thousands. Why should the "big dogs" take over? Ever heard of a monopoly or an oligopoly...neither would do the porn industry any good... and don't do most industries any good. The porn industry would not survive with either, and quite honestly a lot of sponsors would have a hard time without us affiliates.

So what's the real problem with minors accessing porn? THEY are looking for it. I was 12 once and I wanted free porn. I went to my favorite search engine (AltaVista at the time) and searched for it. I simply clicked the "Enter" button and BAM I had free porn. So what would have stopped me? At the time I knew WAY more about computers than my parents and there wasn't even such a thing as a filter then. So, here is what RESPONSIBLE parents should do;

1. Setup a username for their children on their computer
2. Setup filters to block porn
3. SUPERVISE their children while they are using the internet

Children are accessing porn because they want to. It is not accident when some 12 year old goes to realsmutty.com... If they type in that domain they know what they are doing, or found it through a search engine with some terms that they shouldn't be using.

Don't want to look after your children all day long? Tough shit. Until they are 18 you are legally responsible for their actions (In the good ol' USA, anyways). I agree you can't spend every waking moment of the day with them, but be proactive and setup filters, their own usernames, ect. so they can't access it.

Your arguments are weaker than your spelling and grammer. You attack the webmaster profession because entry into the market is so easy, but just by seeing how you write tells me it would be difficult for you to enter just about any indusrty. If you are going to come here to attack our profession, do it in an educated, supported, and professional manner.

First, you post on a fake nick.... no balls.

To be ohnest I dont think noone needs to know who I am, because I am simply putting points through agreeing with xxx, nothing about me needs to be put forward.

Your arguments are weaker than your spelling and grammer. You attack the webmaster profession because entry into the market is so easy, but just by seeing how you write tells me it would be difficult for you to enter just about any indusrty. If you are going to come here to attack our profession, do it in an educated, supported, and professional manner

I didnt know this industry needed perfect grammar, I have been to shows where some peoples i.q. are lower than their shoesize.

Don't want to look after your children all day long? Tough shit. Until they are 18 you are legally responsible for their actions (In the good ol' USA, anyways). I agree you can't spend every waking moment of the day with them, but be proactive and setup filters, their own usernames, ect. so they can't access it.

If you can tell me about parents who are with their kids 24 hours a day who are not hicks please tell me.

Children are accessing porn because they want to. It is not accident when some 12 year old goes to realsmutty.com... If they type in that domain they know what they are doing, or found it through a search engine with some terms that they shouldn't be using.

I do not disagree, of course they want porn, but for any other media way, it is blocked of. I wanted top shelf mags. But I can tell you now, in some cases porn is throw into the net when people dont want it. Porn is not found just through domains and search eginnes.


I also disagree with anybody entering an industry, because it yes anybody, as long as you have $20 you could let in some layabout shitface who will screw you over given any chance


but thanks for your arguments, I am glad you took the time to write something constructive, unlucky the other people who just write 1 sentence answers.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by baddog

I thought you were a spineless pussy in the beginning post, now I think you are a spineless, ignorant pussy.

I find it amusing that you were dumb enough to include your Mayor's Money referral ID in your sig . . . you really think people will sign up under you, or that someone won't go thru all the Mayors Money sigs and find out which is yours?

I dont understand you? I infact come up with some valid points, which I allow people to disagree with yet you use language like that? sure I am using a referal id. i did realise, but why the slander?

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Xplicit

It really is a horrible argument when you think GLOBALLY, which you are not.

The internet is world wide, every modern countries population is online, from America to Europe, to Asia.

.xxx will lead to U.S. laws, and maye some in the EU and Canada. The problem is, it still leaves hundreds of countries webmasters will host their sites from, and incorperate their business in.

This means this MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR *TAXED* AMERICAN INDUSTRY WILL NO LONGER BE PAYING TAXES IN THE USA!!!

yet other medias abide by the laws....

why does the internet have to be different?

[StuartD]

stupid stupid stupid.

[BlackCrayon]

i can watch anal porn on 'mainstream' movie channels after 9...what kids are to bed by 9? 10 year olds? what about the rest? you're telling me a 15 yr old goes to bed at 9? give me a break.

also in montreal i can walk down the street with a 2 year old and see nude pictures of women in the windows at strip clubs downtown any time of the day. in europe mainstream commercials contain nudity. america is so hung up on sex but thats another story.

the only thing .xxx will do is give parents a way to filter it out but guess what. the parents that don't supervise what their kids are doing now, won't do it then either. another senario...dad wants to look at porn so even if they have one computer for the kids, and one for the adults, guess what happens when mom and dad aren't around?

then before you know it sites with explicit language will be filtered out and used as a tool to keep information from the public...kinda like china does. its a slippery slope. the internet was built on freedom of information and i think changing that takes away what the internet is all about, freedom.

more than anything .xxx will just make porn sites more like warez sites, hosted on foreign boxes where nobody cares about copyright violation, torrent sites will be more popular than ever and in the end if our rights aren't slowly taken away further, the kids will still get access to porn if they want it regardless.

[NBDesign]

1st off, if you believe that they are doing this to protect children... think again. It's a power trip and a way to get more money in their pockets... Kids are used as paws when politicians want to get mroe money out of you... what a .xxx is $59? $69? For what... is there special processing that .xxx does that .com does not?

Remember the whole tobacco bullshit? We will make it more expensive so kids cannot afford to smoke? Yeah... 40 million of that lawsuit money was put back into the tobacco farms, some of the money went to buy golf carts for some country club, and a lot went into lawyers pockets... and guess what... even at 4.50 a pack (here in AZ).... Kids still smoke.

Trust me... this is all political bullshit and will do nothing but HARM THIS BUSINESS!

My 2 Cents!

PS - Over the weekend, Daylight hours... prime afternoon... TNT or TNN played Leathal Weapon... the 1st one and shown Mels full nude backside.... I was like WTF? Hell, at 41, I didn't want to see that. ;)