Which Affiliate managers have stayed on board at 1 company the longest?

[shermo]

This isn't aimed at any 1 person in particular, but the trend of fly by night affiliate managers is starting to become a bit comical. Which affiliate managers have stood the test of time?

I can think of Laura Lee, Rochard, Dwreck, Mark at Naughty America and a few others.

What makes a manager stick to 1 company? Do you think it's overall loyalty, the lack of other offers, a solid agreement between the quality affiliate managers or other factors.

Also, what do you think is making the turnover ratio so high with these managers? Companies going through their contact lists quickly, lack of skills outside of board marketing, lack of pay, etc?

Furthermore, do you even pay attention to announcements from new affiliate managers after the've been at more than 3 or 4 companies in a 6 month period?

[Ice]

add Loryn to that list

[shermo]

add Loryn to that list

I forgot Cory as well. He's one of the best.

[High Plains Drifter]

I would guess that pay is a significant problem. People who are comfortable are rarely looking for new work.

[Ice]

Greg from SicCash

[Ice]

Brent with Python

Marina with Orgasm

[The Ghost]

This isn't aimed at anyone, but i'm sure many programs hire affiliate managers under the assumption they will produce more business and revenue for the program, not just maintain the current level.

Fact is that very few affiliate managers are able to do this effectively.

[mailman]

I have been with Medium Pimpin for 3+ years now!

[mailman]

I have been with Medium Pimpin for 3+ years now!

I work for the money but stay for the boobs!

[seeric]

money talks. if you aren't taking offers and opportunities to grow and make more loot then you are doing yourself an injustice.

thats my philosophy. loyalty doesn't buy you nice things in this business, but kicing ass and learning how to do most anything inside the company does. as well, learning everything you can makes you more attractive to other companies.

i've quadrupled my income in the last 3+ years taking better offers. although i am not an affiliate manager, i would think that you'd want to move higher and make alot more money. sometimes staying in that one place will stop you from advancing yourself.

now im running an entire internet division for a major video company in chatsworth. don't think i'd be doing this well had i not bailed on a few previous employers.

2cents

[pr0]

BT was at TCG for a lonnnng ass time

that crazy shaven head fucker ; )

[Doctor Dre]

Weg seems to kepe their rep long ... bradshaw have had greg for a while too... justsexxx was with dieselaction for years...

Thing is, if you are any good in this business it's very very easy to make a better salary then a rep with 2-3 hours of work daily...

[mailman]

loyalty doesn't buy you nice things in this business,

But its so important at the same time.

I always have felt for anyone I work for or with that if loyality is there and you like where you are at its a perfect situation. I always work under the assumption that when my employer does well as do I. and that is where the loyality is key so that I can trust them enough to give me a raise when its affordable etc...

I like where Im at and Im not going anywhere unless I get fired!

[american pervert]

laurel and the twins at webquest

[mailman]

BT was at TCG for a lonnnng ass time

that crazy shaven head fucker ; )

He was teh first guy that poped in my mind.. he was my TCG rep back in 99

[shermo]

Weg seems to kepe their rep long ... bradshaw have had greg for a while too... justsexxx was with dieselaction for years...

Thing is, if you are any good in this business it's very very easy to make a better salary then a rep with 2-3 hours of work daily...

...But who's to say that the rep doesn't have his/her own projects on the side outside of "work" hours? I'd be willing to bet that a lot of reliable affiliate managers have their own things going...If they didn't, to what use would they be to a company if they don't know how to successfully manage sites on their own?

Could this be why the long term reps stay for so long, while others bounce from job to job?

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

I have been the Affiliate Manager for Click Me Media for over 2 years now

[Rochard]

This isn't aimed at any 1 person in particular, but the trend of fly by night affiliate managers is starting to become a bit comical. Which affiliate managers have stood the test of time?

I can think of Laura Lee, Rochard, Dwreck, Mark at Naughty America and a few others.

What makes a manager stick to 1 company? Do you think it's overall loyalty, the lack of other offers, a solid agreement between the quality affiliate managers or other factors.

Also, what do you think is making the turnover ratio so high with these managers? Companies going through their contact lists quickly, lack of skills outside of board marketing, lack of pay, etc?

Furthermore, do you even pay attention to announcements from new affiliate managers after the've been at more than 3 or 4 companies in a 6 month period?

I wasn't an affilaite manager at Lightspeed Cash or even Martketing, although of course I helped out where needed. At the same time, Sweetums has been with LSC for what - nearly three years now?

I did five years at LSC as the Cheif Operations Officer, and I hope to do another five years here working for Lensman and Playboy.

But I understand your point - I hate it when people move around so often.

[Cory W]

I will donate a long one to this thread:

I think it begins at the corporate level and ends at the employee level. Companies tend to confuse bottom-feeder marketing ideals with ?branding? while employees tend to confuse GFY thread views with ?being sought after.?

The two are a very fatal mix, and I can almost always predict it when I see new threads featuring new hires.

While I was at the Gay Phoenix Forum, this exact same conversation came up one evening. One of the items I found interesting was the accepted synopsis that employees can leave companies on bad terms, continue to degrade the bad relations by exhibiting nasty public behavior against the former employer, and then find a job at one of the lower level affiliate programs.

Now, please do not assume I am talking about a specific person, I am just adding to the debate. Continuing, employees at other companies see this behavior and at times, they tend to model it because on the outside there really appears to be no repercussions; in fact, there only appears to be positives. What they don?t know is that not every company in this industry can pay you very much and often times you would be better off moving on and working retail or waiting tables.

I see resumes all the time. And it is funny to see how many people think that they can degrade a former employer at a show or on message boards and still be considered for employment by Weg.

We no longer hire people to ?brand? our product; we only hire people capable of assisting our program on a multitude of levels. If your idea of ?branding? is calling other females (including models) in this industry ?whores,? or ?calling people out,? you are best to look elsewhere for employment. I don?t particularly have time to clean up messes.

The model company, in my humble opinion, is CBill. That company is run with a great sense of pride and professionalism. Of course, they are a processor, which, like Paycom, must exhibit behavior that shows your finances are in good hands; Programs that are on the front lines of adult content have a little more leeway in that department. I would also add that Paycom and Webquest to the list of model companies. (CCBill plays host to the forum, giving us insight into their entire company more than others).

You are seeing a decline in job transitions; in fact, you are seeing more and more people jump ship only to find themselves out of the industry. Companies are now coming to terms with market shares and using their funds wiser. Most new reps come in and leverage your consoles for other traffic deals (this is actually complicated financially and doesn?t really require a rep). Most programs would prefer you bring in brand new, independent webmasters. But that is complicated if you understand how adult market shares work.

I only look for people that want to grow, and I can speak for CCBill and tell you that a company like that only hires people that want to move up. Two days ago, we were trying to find a solution for writing some text on some tours we have, etc. Time was running out, I met with our designer and told him I would write it up. Another guy in our company overheard and went to his manager and told her he would be willing to do it.

That guy will probably be here a long time and make good money in the future. He is currently a temp.

Thanks for the compliment Sherm, the feeling is mutual.

[Cory W]

I wasn't an affilaite manager at Lightspeed Cash or even Martketing, although of course I helped out where needed. At the same time, Sweetums has been with LSC for what - nearly three years now?

I did five years at LSC as the Cheif Operations Officer, and I hope to do another five years here working for Lensman and Playboy.

But I understand your point - I hate it when people move around so often.

I am not an affiliate rep either per se, also, I feel that role is drying up and transcending itself anyways.

It is all relative. If you ever post on a board, attend a show, or help a webmaster on ICQ, then you are a rep.

The owner of our company once told me he was just another sales guy. : )

Look at Drinkinghard, he owns a lot, but never hesitates to sell his product and be a rep.

[Chris]

im coming up on two years

[shermo]

I wasn't an affilaite manager at Lightspeed Cash or even Martketing, although of course I helped out where needed. At the same time, Sweetums has been with LSC for what - nearly three years now?

I did five years at LSC as the Cheif Operations Officer, and I hope to do another five years here working for Lensman and Playboy.

But I understand your point - I hate it when people move around so often.

I didn't mean to offend you Rochard...I was actually paying you a compliment and I hope you don't feel as if I was lessening your roll. I think I meant to phrase this as a "rep", because as I knew it, aside from Steve, you were the face of Lightspeed.

I'm not the traditional affiliate manager as most are referred to either, but I wear it as my title. Like many others that i respect, I play a lot more roles than just board whoring and chatting on ICQ. From what I'm gathering, it seems that the long term "reps" all have that in common. Is that what makes companies hold on to some individuals longer than others?

[Sarah_Jayne]

In December I will have been with Wishing.com (and Webinc) for four years. Part of the reason I have been happy to say is the support I feel from my boss and the rest of the company. I am a really loyal person to people that give me support like that.

[Varius]

IwantU_Rosalia_Lara (Affiliate Manager) is starting her 8th year at IwantU, and though I'm not really dealing with the affiliate side of things much, I'm starting my 7th year there

Of course, we didn't start at the same positions we occupy now....I know for myself, I've been through a ton of different ones and now I just give myself whatever titles I like

[Loryn]

My first thread on GFY Labret said I was only going to be around for 3 months and it's been over 3 years. haha I have only known about this part of the industry when I started here, working for Lensman. I am very very loyal to the company and to all affiliates. I love talking to people and solving their problems. I also love going to shows and meeting people and then later making the deals come through. I have met so many amazing people some of which I will know for life I am sure. It's a lot of work but it is so fun at the same time. 3 years later and I am working for Playboy. What more could a girl want? hehe I am going to school and who knows what the future holds, but I can say that I am very happy and I love my job so much that I work all the time at the office and when I get home and enjoy it. The income is great and the opportunities ahead are very good. I can't leave out the benefits, they are AMAZING. Playboy rocks in everyway and working for Lensman is amazing. I definitely can say that it has been one of the best experiences of my life and there is still a lot more to come.

[Persius]

my favorite rep, Marina

[Rochard]

I didn't mean to offend you Rochard...I was actually paying you a compliment and I hope you don't feel as if I was lessening your roll. I think I meant to phrase this as a "rep", because as I knew it, aside from Steve, you were the face of Lightspeed.

I'm not the traditional affiliate manager as most are referred to either, but I wear it as my title. Like many others that i respect, I play a lot more roles than just board whoring and chatting on ICQ. From what I'm gathering, it seems that the long term "reps" all have that in common. Is that what makes companies hold on to some individuals longer than others?

Dude, I'm not offended at all!

I wasn't really even the face of the company. Steve and Tanker were in the early days; I rarely went to shows. I was the behind the scenes man.

[selena]

One year isn't that long at all, but that's how long I've been with JayMan Cash. I love the company I work for and will not be going anywhere, any time soon.

That said, as others in the thread have mentioned, that is not the only thing I do in the biz. Having the mix works well for me.

[corvette]

The model company, in my humble opinion, is CBill. That company is run with a great sense of pride and professionalism. Of course, they are a processor, which, like Paycom, must exhibit behavior that shows your finances are in good hands; Programs that are on the front lines of adult content have a little more leeway in that department. I would also add that Paycom and Webquest to the list of model companies. (CCBill plays host to the forum, giving us insight into their entire company more than others).

You are seeing a decline in job transitions; in fact, you are seeing more and more people jump ship only to find themselves out of the industry. Companies are now coming to terms with market shares and using their funds wiser. Most new reps come in and leverage your consoles for other traffic deals (this is actually complicated financially and doesn’t really require a rep). Most programs would prefer you bring in brand new, independent webmasters. But that is complicated if you understand how adult market shares work.

I only look for people that want to grow, and I can speak for CCBill and tell you that a company like that only hires people that want to move up

thanks for the props cory, not to butter you back up, but WEG is a class act company, i remember jason and gabe visiting the offices 6 years ago (how many ads/banners has gabe been in???) + the valuable asset you are smart companies know who they cannot afford to lose

in my personal opinion, around 20-30% of the population, give or take, are exceptional people that have a rare and valuable combination of talents, people that have an inherent desire to help and improve, not just go through the motions, when we find one of those people, we try not to let go ))))

[Sly]

I've found that the best affiliate reps aren't really affiliate reps at all, they just get mistaken for affiliate reps easily because they're willing to do anything for the company and affiliate rep work is what affiliates notice the most. They don't "pass the buck" when somebody needs help and they don't "feel like" doing it. Many of the names mentioned in this thread are sheer proof of that.

I'm not an affiliate rep but I have been doing sales for Phat Servers for over 3 years now, coming up on 4.

[shermo]

I've found that the best affiliate reps aren't really affiliate reps at all, they just get mistaken for affiliate reps easily because they're willing to do anything for the company and affiliate rep work is what affiliates notice the most. They don't "pass the buck" when somebody needs help and they don't "feel like" doing it. Many of the names mentioned in this thread are sheer proof of that.

I'm not an affiliate rep but I have been doing sales for Phat Servers for over 3 years now, coming up on 4.

You hit the nail on the head. I personally strive for that and I think anybody serious about their company should as well.

Sly... You are definitely one of my fav people to work with.

[american pervert]

and there are some companies that get greedy and force out good peole so they don't have to pay large commissions

[tony286]

I think its a few things, I see it as a hard thing to increase sales.If your not with a new company all the big players already know who your company is and most of the medium and little ones do to. Everyone is so anonymous ,its not like you can break out the phone book and start making cold calls.When I was with a main stream dot com I was able to sign up bigger affiliates simply because I was able to call them and most has never been called every one emalied. I think they are paid poorly and given high expectations. Also working for a small business owner most times your working for a megalomaniac and that can be rough to deal with if your not making the big bucks.

[tony286]

My first thread on GFY Labret said I was only going to be around for 3 months and it's been over 3 years. haha I have only known about this part of the industry when I started here, working for Lensman. I am very very loyal to the company and to all affiliates. I love talking to people and solving their problems. I also love going to shows and meeting people and then later making the deals come through. I have met so many amazing people some of which I will know for life I am sure. It's a lot of work but it is so fun at the same time. 3 years later and I am working for Playboy. What more could a girl want? hehe I am going to school and who knows what the future holds, but I can say that I am very happy and I love my job so much that I work all the time at the office and when I get home and enjoy it. The income is great and the opportunities ahead are very good. I can't leave out the benefits, they are AMAZING. Playboy rocks in everyway and working for Lensman is amazing. I definitely can say that it has been one of the best experiences of my life and there is still a lot more to come.

Practicing your acceptance speech for something lol

[shermo]

I think its a few things, I see it as a hard thing to increase sales.If your not with a new company all the big players already know who your company is and most of the medium and little ones do to. Everyone is so anonymous ,its not like you can break out the phone book and start making cold calls.When I was with a main stream dot com I was able to sign up bigger affiliates simply because I was able to call them and most has never been called every one emalied. I think they are paid poorly and given high expectations. Also working for a small business owner most times your working for a megalomaniac and that can be rough to deal with if your not making the big bucks.

Very good points. And I think that has to do with the longetivity of some of the more reputable reps. They are with a company that is meadium to large and there is more to focus on than just bringing fresh blood in. If a company can keep a person who knows a little about a lot, than he/she will be a long term asset to the company.

[Big Red Machine]

Any "Title" seems to pigeon hole people. All I can say is Sherm with or without a title we appreciate Everything you do.

[shermo]

Any "Title" seems to pigeon hole people. All I can say is Sherm with or without a title we appreciate Everything you do.

Appreciate it! However, if you didn't feel this way, I'd have to tell you to Pogue Mahone!

[Dwreck]

Sherm,

Thanks so much for the mention. I know we talked about this before Im sure, I can?t recall 100%

Myself personally I model Brent from Python. He?s been with then ever since I can remember. Some 6 years that I?m aware of.

I have a really strong beliefs when it comes to this and I must admit I have had offers elsewhere but Im not motivated by money as much as I should be I guess. I?m a very loyal person. You keep petting me and I will come back. Webcamcash treats employees very well just the other day I showed up at my desk meanwhile Barry just retuned from a *trade show* hehe in the islands and brought me a bottle of Rum.



It?s the little things like that make working here a simple choice.

I truly believe in our product, I know it inside and fell very confident about it. Our office environment is focused yet light at the same time. Being a medium sized company office (7 in house employees) my position within the company allows me to have a stronger voice and I find it very satisfying to go to the boss pitch an idea, have it up by the end of the day making money something I don?t think I could do at a bigger company for more money.

Im finally at stage where people know what I do, where I work and how long its been so I believe they have more confidence working with me.

I understand things can go wrong and you have to move on however all the general webmaster community sees is REP a is switching companies again. Especially when the last time you talked to him he was going on how these program his with now is the BEST EVER etc etc and you find him saying the same thing when he? she is with the new company it comes with the territory I guess .I must say thou it took me two moves before I found what I call home.

Am I lucky? Nah

I planned this from day one.

[MikeB]

I had 7+ years at CE, was a nice run. Internet years are like dog years....

[Lykos]

I am still in same company
But true is thats just 2 months nowheh