I decided to try my luck with this industry early 2002 so I started reading the industry sites like xbiz.com or pornresource.com and in the same time I had someone designing a simple site for me ( didn't have much tech skills then, in fact I still dont have them lol )


then I started in this industry June 2002 and actually in same month I registered on GFY, because I saw it linked on another forum ( somone linked a thread with thehun cars )

So I registered here and decided to post while I was still making next to none money in the first 3-4 months.

But my attitude was completely different than people like madawgz or squishypimp nowadays, I wasnt an attention whore and I wasnt seling my sig ( well, if someone told me I could sell it I'd probably have done it though, Im doing it today but the money from it isnt significant to me obviously )

The problem is that its a total anarchy nowadays,. all the newbies who arent even in this industry start making lots of threads about themselves and voicing their opinions on other matters pretending that others should care about it. And they dont have respect to anyone...

kill the surfers and the sigwhores!

I think what people are saying is that they don't want people who are being paid to post. It should be people posting because they want to post and it has some bearing on their business.

okay so you mean nobody should be able to sell their sigs?

I don't care about sigs, so I'd personally say no. I think you should be able to put your site in your sig or the program/company you work for. Otherwise, I'd say no.

What it all comes down to is paying your dues.

If you paid your dues by being on the road as an affiliate manager, shooting content for mortgage money, grinding code for 8 bucks an hour, spending long nights in a server room, etc.. most established people here (successful or not) have paid their dues for this industry in some fashion.

You can't lump everyone together though. I don't have a web site but I shoot and edit video and have been trying to gain some business contacts and hopefully get some work. But being that I don't have a site that makes me a surfer by your guidelines.

However, I'm not here making 50+ posts a day either because I would rather just make posts in threads that I can actually relate to or maybe add some input. Not all people who have no sites are surfers or sig whores...

I'm going to have to disagree here. What about the webmaster just getting into the industry? Banning people from this board and creating a a model where you must be accepted into the community smacks of elitist bullshit. Sure, ban the idiots, but don't close the doors.

You did not read my post above

what about me? some say im a surfer, well, i really am, only because i recently got OUT of adult, but i have been in the webmastering biz for 6 years and adult for 4+... but now that i decided to take internetting as a hobby again, im a surfer, thus i would be banned... which isn't cool, because i like the atomosphere here and i also like to keep up on whats going on in the biz...

50 banned surfers

a newbies board would be good...

but wait, if I ban surfers won't I start losing conversions on the free porn in my sig?! ;)

Don't wanna lose them sales...

exactly..a bigger membership base is better for making money...thought most people would know that

I have an easier solution.

Ban all the webmasters and turn this into a surfer forum ;)

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but many of the "industry" persons here don't contribute jack shit. :2 cents:

Problem is there really isnt any incentive to contribute - all decent posts disappear in the sigwhore noise.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

yeesh, if people aren't making that much we'd be doing them a favor and giving them a push out of something they obviously aren't very good at. no one needs >$500 clowns around here filling the board with 'would you hit it' threads.

This board, as any other board or site, charges their advertising rates based upon IMPRESSIONS...not clicks to banners.

You may want to try your own advice in this case.:2 cents:

wow, you are horribly stupid. you think this board is the only way to learn things? come the fuck on man. you're ignorance is painful. adult webmasters did exist before this board was made. i was making over 100k/year for years before i even knew gfy existed.

I think that everyone should buy traffic before getting unbaned. That would solve the problem :)

I like the idea of a newbie board.... where the mods can sort the surfers from the webmasters.

I think it is a very, very dumb idea. The reason I am in adult is because surfer porn forums used to offer free porn. then they all started getting shut down for various reasons. I thought fuck, i need to find more before the whole think goes, So I typed in porn forum in google, got to another board, posted there for a bit. Saw a link for a program, signed up and made them some signups. Ok I must be like 0.1% of surfers that actully convert. But this is a unique reason why you should not ban people just because they surf.

Scotty, this is why there are places like xbiz, porn resource, and theadultwebmaster.com

for people to start learning, become an industry person, and then come here and talk about it..

I am well aware that most of us were surfers at one time, but we did not all come to gfy to learn how to do stuff.. hell, I did not even get on a chat board for almost a year after I got in the biz because I wanted to just soak up info and then be able to contribute.

a 'stupid shit' and a 'biz only' board would be good too. and maybe a board for the tranny pics coz fuck i hate clicking on those threads that lead to trannies.

Thats funny, seems more pics and vids get pasted on gfy to waste time viewing, rather than getting something actually done...

watch 20 videos, thats like one hour of time you could have done something else more productive with..

yeah they will. you should start thinking madawgz :)

what do a good majority of people start doing once they learn the ropes? they signup for sponsors and find ways to send traffic. thats how everyone does it. dont you think that programs want those virgin webmasters?

Couldn't they just validate that the join email address at least belongs to a domain that's adult related?

The only people who really need to be banned are Madawgz and Squishypimp. They act nice and dont flame people, so that's cool, but these surfers have taken post whoring to an extreme. If they were real webmasters, I wouldnt even care, but when a surfer/newbie who doesnt know shit about shit posts 100 - 150 times per day every day for months and months consecutively, it really does bring down the overall quality of the board.

i'm all for it

Sounds as stupid as the recent proposed .xxx registration process.

Considering many surfers end up here from SE and so on, it would be more effective to close the board and viewing for registered members only. That would cut off 95% of the tempted trolls. The last 5% you can't do anything about anyway, because they would just lie about what they are doing.

they can go to ynot then

And honestly, you would lose a lot of people that are worth having. I wont waste 500 a year to chat on a board.

okay, we are talking about real surfers right?

the only thing they might do is signup to a program to download free photo sets...

i cant believe im still being called a fucking surfer, ive had it with this shit

ive made fucking over $10,000+ with platinumbucks, $3000+ with wildcash, $10,000+ with AdultActionCash, $12,000+ with sexmoney and a bunch of other programs, few grand here and there, so...:321GFY

i agree with this. $500/yr to post isn't much. if a surfer wants to pay $500/yr to post BS, then let them. it will definitely weed out 90% of the crap.

if it was 500$/year, i think the board would only be full of the rich guys...

wow!!!:warning

fucking hell congratz madawgz!!!!! :thumbsup

Yeh your right. My story is a very small exception. Like I say im 0.1% of Surfers, but still you gotta bear those things in mind, if you were to choose to ban obvious surfers :upsidedow

Squishydick

you are making an awful lot of noice lately

may I remind people that suishyfag is nothing but a surfer, and to correct a few common mistakes here, it's might worth mention that
Madawgz on the other hand owns and run a handful of succesful websites, adult and mainstream.

Just my two cents.