Dodge meons can be fast, lots of after market stuff available :Oh crap

Those neons are quick little suckers...

LOL @ this pic

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The srt-4's are fast cars with little money put into them. Stock with a good driver they run 13.5's but you will see alot of drivers in the 14's. However for a little over 3k they can get the s3 package which can put the car in the 12's.

I'll race you!

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...Urban_Soul.jpg

talk about manboobs!

Every person has said They are fast with a little money..


Ok, I have news. My car with no money is fast..with a little money its even faster.

Hell all I have to do is drop 15k in my car Twinturbo it and rebuild the engine to handle the boost. and I will be running low 10's

Only race i ever lost in my m3 was to a SRT -4 or 6, i dont know the models, but it was a dodge neon, i talked to the guy at the third light, he had a bunch of mods, those fucking things are quick man. I needed new tires before i raced, but even with new tires, I think he would of just beat me.

if that car is in fact an srt-4 (which i am almost positive it, but you never know sometimes neon owners buy the srt body kits) it can be a dangerous little car.

they're very pretty damn fast stock. and they really don't take much money to be faster. they do lose alot in the traction department though. since they are fwd, and the 03 and 04 models did not come with a good limited slip. the 05 model does come from the factory with a nice lsd in it though.

i would want a good long look under his hood though before i bet any money on you beating him. since they are extremely light, and have very buildable engines, even a few minor and relatively cheap performance parts can get them into 12's easily.

that being said, most srt-4 drivers cannot drive to save their fucking lives. :winkwink:

but, you're never gonna know for sure unless you try.

good luck, let me know how it goes.

I am seriously thinking about dumpin some money into my ride. I really like the Twin Turbo's they put on the vette. If I turboed my SS... I would be crazy fast

haha. crazy fast doesn't even being to describe your car with a twin turbo setup. :1orglaugh

what turbo setup are you looking into?

that mustang is not a 'real' saleen. its a GT mustang with a body kit...

If this guy could not identify the car like the rest of us, then looking under the hood is going to do him absolutely no good! "nice catalitic converter!!" haha.

nice lift kit, is it a good 4WD?

it would be alot more then 15k to turbo your ride.

the turbos alone would be more then that.

then the work involved. you are talking about rerouting your entire exhaust.

you understand how a turbo works right?

the amount of scratch youll drop into turboin your car would defently not be worth it.

now.. a couple shots of the juice.. that would put you up there with that -4... but thats hell on that engine. pretty sure thats an aluminum bottom end right?

youd need to totaly rebuild the top end to handle it.. well not totaly.. but alot of the shit would need some bulletproof action

rings, pistons, rods.. all that to start.

just come to terms with the fact that dudes got you and thats that.. i mean if youve got a fast car (and what you got in hp? like 300 or so? honestly.. im my book that is not fast.. but we dont see eye to eye on alot of things) then be happy with the people you are faster then and thats that.

gotta understand.. lots of people are faster then you.. TONS of people are faster then you..

wanna play halo or what fucker

Best thing to do is let it go lmao. Sometimes, even muscle car owners have to just let it go. I got passed in my Mustang by a Neon on the way to Miami this year on I-95. As he passed, he blew off his turbo and smiled at me...


...I just waved. I didn't have a goddamn thing for that little rocket. :)

Not to mention, that about a year ago, I got RAPED RAPED RAPED by a Vtech civic that looked stock as shit. No big coffee can exhaust. No loud motor. No fancy rims and tires. No neon undercarriage lights. Fucking thing looked like a grandma car.

He fucking owned my ass...three times. I went home and waxed my car then cried myself to sleep. :1orglaugh

friend of mine has this http://www.ajovalo.net/Historia/images/79Aspen1.jpg
(not that one, but same car.. 79 4 door dodge aspen)

hes got a viper engine in it.

all the gauges are under the wheel.. you cant see them..

0 tint hes got 3 inch exhaust that goes all the way to the back, and stop under the bumper where you cant see them.. he has a reg exhaust pipe sticking out..

its stripped down to pretty much nothing.. its that engine and your ass pretty much.

and ofcourse would eat all the gear heads in this thread with out hittin 4th gear.

youd never see him commin and would put your pinkslip up at a redlight in a heart beat.

you know you would.

and you would get beat.

so.. in a nutshell.. listen to nick.. listen to me.. accept the fact that tons of people will smoke your car.. as honestly 300 hp isnt that fast.

i drove a 800 hp supra in fl not 2 years ago, and that guys dumped another 10k in that since last i rode with him.

and his supra looks stock like a champ..

you'll probably get owned by a dodge neon LOL

what are you talking about? 15k for a turbo system? :1orglaugh

how the hell did you come up with that?

i know plenty of people who have turbo charged their cars. it didn't cost near that much.

for 15k i could get a stage 3 built short block, a turbo kit, turbo back exhaust, racing seats, labor, and a couple cases of beer.

https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...ges/2SMALL.JPG

that is a gt37r tubo kit for an evo. includes your turbo manifold and o2 housing. it costs $3,695. and that is a large turbo. you can smaller kits for even less. granted that particular kit doesn't include the intercooler, but those are only 300 - 700 dollars depending on which type you buy.

actually, i failed to read the description for that turbo. it actually DOES come with the intercooler.

you are turboin 4 bangers. diff world when you step into 8.

heres the 1st 1 google gives us, its a single 8 turbo for 6500
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583780..

now thats before you order another one.. (your at 13k) and thats before you consider starting all the fab work that it would take to turbo that thing.

google image the inside of that hood.. its fuckin packed..

gonna take a crazy fuckin gearhead days to pack 2 turbos into that thing.

lol, neonnnnn

I will blast that stupid shit out of the road.

sell that one and get one already done :P

http://www.lingenfelter.com/02CamaroStP.htm

http://www.lingenfelter.com/Pfarrer.htm

If he wants to race, he must do it.

He will own you so hardcore, I can own you and he would own me :) Try to race one sometime.

Atleast we have the "atleast i drive off in the beamer and he drives away in the neon" excuse, but he will embarras your 325.

actually when he mentioned turboing it i went and started checking out ls1 kits. good single turbo kits for his car cost about as much as the kit for my car.

it doesn't make any bit of difference wether you are turbo charging and 8cyl, 4cyl, or any other number of cylinders. the only difference in the kit is the actual plumbing for it. turbo manifold, exhaust housing, and intercooler pipes. you can use the exact same turbo charger and housing for any car, and that is the exspensive part of a turbo kit. it's all just a matter of getting the right pipes to fit it.

for example, here is a twin turbo kit for a vette.

http://www.corvettegarage.com/produc...5-and-z06.html

costs a bit under 8 grand.

as for instalation it's not really that complex. i helped my buddy turbo his lancer not too long ago, and know lots of people that have done it themselves. it is time consuming, and tedious, but not really that hard.

the shittiest part was tapping his oil pan for the oil send/return lines. everything else more or less bolted right up.

Dont sleep on those SRT Neons. I've seen alot of ownages.
Check Youtube. I'm sure there's some videos of it.

He can own you straight off the dealer's lot. :1orglaugh

Watch out for those modded Cobalts too.
I use to laugh at them, till I seen what it can do. :helpme

the new neon is nice

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY...QQcmdZViewItem

This one seems to be really cheap..lol what do you think?

dont do it

heh, i dunno. i am always wary of anything on ebay ;)


by the way, brand0n and krm, what are your xbox live uids? i play halo2 alot.

mine is 'oligarchy'. toss me a friend request, i have been trying to find some decent people to play with.

my god what pussy cars .. my car would blow both of you away & leave you behind me in a trail of dust.. i'd be at the 1/4 mile before both of you even reached half way.. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Take that stupid wigger ricer fully modded & I'd still leave that bitch in dust :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You'd lose in a straight line and you'd lose in a real race. (corners!)

I love people in V8's that dismiss any 4cyl instantly, and I love all car people with basic mods that think their ride is fast.

If you want to go fast, buy a motorbike!

The point of my CAR is it's a daily driver that can roast 90% on the road


As is I can dust 100% of the honda civics with a Exhaust and a wing. The point is those that acutally tuned the cars. Bigger turbos/engine rebuilds.


I understand no matter what I do to my car there will always be someone faster.

sorry to burst your bubble, im a chevy fan, but the camaro isn't what it used to be, the srt 4 will own you like hell

You must be dumb as fuck.

Z06 beat out almost any CAR at the track.

Want to put money on it?

Stock Vs Stock?

I'd rather own the Camaro, but you can get alot out of the little 4 bangers these days....So I wouldn't go Pink Slips

Even my car is faster than that - without mods.

Tell the guy he can use my daughters old training bra.

drag racing is fun an all, but if that's all your car can do it's not very impressive.

0-60 is really almost a useless benchmark. it is more dependant on gearing than anything else.

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I had a 2000 WS6 T/A six speed stock on a 70 degree day pull a 12.9 they really make around 380 390 hp thennnn 300 320 at the wheels!! i did the heads an cam only with headers and complete flowmaster exaust an got 12.00 while spinning the wheels at half track...your SS believe it or not is lighter than its pontiac counter part! now i know a rich lil bastard with a srt-4 has almost 10gs in it an running in the 12s so its not unlikely hes full of shit but when you actually see the car and hear it you will never know alot of assholes put a k/n filter on an think its a whole lot faster than what it is or they beat a SS or WS6 cause the guy just dont know how to drive an think oh man i beat one so i can beat em all:1orglaugh

heh nice.. you shaved off .8tenths of a second in 1/4 just with the heads? and exhaust.....not bad I guess.. wait 12 even?

Until you race them, I think you are both blowing smoke up each others asses.

Given the HP/weight, variable driver skills, and just pure chance I don't think either car is the hands-down favorite, especially if you don't know if the SRT4 is bone stock or not.

Just take them to the track, video the results and post back here!!

U could get owned there, beware

not sure what it is but i guarntee it has at least 100 horsepower:thumbsup