and ICANN is regulated by US Dept of commerce.

and commercial email (even so-called "unsolicited" email) is LEGAL in the USA if it follows certain guidelines.

and when something is legal, (even if folks don't like it) you can expect the US Dept of Commerce to force the issue.

The US never "invented" the internet (nor did Mr Gore :) )

That is exactly the objection by the majority of TLD countries - they are not interested in having the US Dept of Commerce manage their TLD's - and something that is likely to change in the foreseeable future.

It may go away and blow in the wind, but the Spamhaus incident may end up as more "food" for the majority of nations who wish to manage their own TLD's.

interesting read wounder how this one will play out.

i hope spamhaus goes down, i doubt it'll happen, but i hope they'll be at least fined for few mills ... that would make my day :winkwink:

I agree. I've dealt with Spamhaus and they feel as if they are always right and everyone else is wrong - with no legal recourse. They fail to understand their actions might harm legit companies and these companies have no rights.

While Spamhaus might have good intentions, they need to understand that their actions can hurt others.

Looks like they said GFY to the court and the court came back with a bigger GFY to them.

Then spamhaus said fuck you again by registering

http://www.spamhaus.org.uk

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

what goes around comes around. Steve Linford is going to get his ass beat either way.

Oh yes, that much power is much better placed in the hands of a faceless multi national corporation or a government, now isnt it?

Sure. At least then you'll have the added benefit of having checks and balances and a system setup to ensure accountability for its actions.

Mmm... na. Screw Spamhaus and all government messing. If governments want to create antispam laws - fine. The last thing the net needs is a govt body deciding whether to block IP's - they can hardly run a government, nevermind the net.

Totally agree, Spamhaus act as judge, jury and executioner with no appeal system and then say they only list IPs they think are spamming. When a court finds against them they ignore the court.

Seems they could not or did not bother to defend in court and now face the prospect of losing their business or at least damaging it. Nice when the executioner gets the chop. :thumbsup

Fuck those immature scammers. I hope they rot and cry about it.

On the other hand, I don't want it to happen to ME, ha.

Actually ICANN will be totally independant by 2011, with the US gradually giving it more freedom starting in 2008. Of course then the Euros will get their way and get that .XXX thing passed. So careful what you wish for.

:winkwink: I'm not wishing for much Gator - whoever is in control will eventually screw it up - that's as sure as death and taxes.

Sure the US govt has said they wish to release ICANN as a private entity - but that is not what other countries want. They are already planning to have their own country TLD's managed by an international org with all countries represented within this organization - not by ICANN or a private entity.

There are moves to make this happen - after the breaking of an agreement which was due to pass ICANN over on 30th Sept this year and doubt they care about timescales quoted by the US govt.

You may remember.. last year there were threats to pull cable from data centres unless this was not resolved quickly. It was stalled on 11th hour and could possibly be on the table again.

PS.. Na.. Europe has expressed zero interest in having .xxx TLD's, but there is the usual tendency to want to control everything much the same as US does at the moment. The bigger a govt/org gets - the more they come up with total crap to screw stuff up - the EU will be no different.