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AaronM · 10-07-2006, 07:22 PM

I've been researching this a bit and there are a shitload of programs that do it. Anybody here have any experience and can either recommend a specific product?

I'd prefer it to be a Photoshop plug-in but stand alone is OK if it's a better option.

I want to use it to remove noise like what you see in this pic.

Thank you.

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 07:22 PM

To clarify..The streaking stars are not the noise I am referring to.

chupachups · 10-07-2006, 07:24 PM

Awesome shot really... Reg plugins - dont know.

MaddCaz · 10-07-2006, 07:26 PM

I havent a clue...

webgurl · 10-07-2006, 07:30 PM

I think what u are looking for is neat image that reduces
noise i use that for all my models photos http://www.neatimage.com
its a plugin u can use for photoshop

DeanCapture · 10-07-2006, 07:49 PM

I've used Noise Ninja - it's a wonderful plugin for PS!

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl

I think what u are looking for is neat image that reduces
noise i use that for all my models photos http://www.neatimage.com
its a plugin u can use for photoshop

I was reading this guys software comparisons and NeatImage is the first program he listed. The problem is he had way too many programs and nothing that showed good side by side comparisons and such.

The Pro+ version comes with a PS plug-in but I'm not so sure I want to drop any money until I know it will do exactly what I want.

Thanks for your input and I will strongly consider it.

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

I've used Noise Ninja - it's a wonderful plugin for PS!

I'll check it out right now.

Thanks, Dean.

Juilan · 10-07-2006, 07:53 PM

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DeanCapture · 10-07-2006, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I'll check it out right now.

Thanks, Dean.

Sure! Beautiful picture by the way Aaron

Tell us about it.......

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

I've used Noise Ninja - it's a wonderful plugin for PS!

Holy shit!

I loaded the profile for the camera and ISO setting used and it gave me exactly what I wanted.

Thanks again, Dean.

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Sure! Beautiful picture by the way Aaron

Tell us about it.......

Canon EOS 20D
Canon 24-70mm f2.8
35mm Focal Length
ISO: 800
f22
15 Minute Exposure
Hoya UV Haze Filter
Manfratto 458B Tripod
Manfrattto 488RC0 Ball Head
Canon RS-80N3 Cable Release
Shot at midnight

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 08:13 PM

The rock is actually lit up by the lights from the town. It was pitch black outside when I took the pic and you couldn't even see the rock through the viewfinder.

Shot in Seaside, Oregon.

jonesy · 10-07-2006, 08:19 PM

hey Aaron post the pic with the noise reduced.

like to see what that looks like.

DeanCapture · 10-07-2006, 08:20 PM

Beautiful stuff man - very nice!

Hey Aaron, email me a larger copy of that and let me run it thru my copy of Noise Ninja and see what it looks like. I'll email it back to you - see if you like it!

deancapture [at] yahoo.com

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

hey Aaron post the pic with the noise reduced.

like to see what that looks like.

I'm looking for the original file so I can use it instead of that compressed one. I'll either post it or send it to you once I get it.

Not sure which HD it's on....

AaronM · 10-07-2006, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Beautiful stuff man - very nice!

Hey Aaron, email me a larger copy of that and let me run it thru my copy of Noise Ninja and see what it looks like. I'll email it back to you - see if you like it!

deancapture [at] yahoo.com

I'll do that when I find it.

woj · 10-07-2006, 08:46 PM

so how did it turn out after you applied the noise reduction?

Chrome · 10-07-2006, 09:32 PM

hey... you should structure your copyright notice as follows

? Date, your name
? 2006 "your name"

It isn't really any safer but it adheres to the copyright dogma and might make an idiot less likely to steal your images. Been meaning to tell you this but you're always being an ass to me so it kinda gets put aside.

Nice shot... try to include the north star in them so you can see the sky spinning around it.

AaronM · 10-08-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrome

hey... you should structure your copyright notice as follows

? Date, your name
? 2006 "your name"

It isn't really any safer but it adheres to the copyright dogma and might make an idiot less likely to steal your images. Been meaning to tell you this but you're always being an ass to me so it kinda gets put aside.

Nice shot... try to include the north star in them so you can see the sky spinning around it.

A copyright notice doesn't mean shit. The watermark is for branding. I pay an I.P. Attorney for his services and advice, not you.

As far as the North Star goes...Lets see here...This is the Oregon coast and the water is on the right side of the frame. Plus, as I mentioned, the lights from Seaside are what lit up the rock. That means that the camera is pointed South. So uh.....With all your wisdom, kindly tell me your technique for including the North Star in said image.

RawAlex · 10-08-2006, 10:29 AM

Aaron, let's just say that for a digital camera, you are shooting way past it's ability. There are still certain things you can do with say, iso 6400 film that you cannot do with a digital camera because of the noise levels of the CCDs.

You make the issue a little worse because you want to retain the stars, which are similar in nature, size, and shape to much of the noise present from the shooting.

My feeling is that you would have make a number of steps with different products, and would likely have to accept some losses in the starfield to make the rest of the image work out. You may want to try first to extract just the starfield from the image (by selecting the sky area, and then running differentials or selecting by color / intensity to isolate the stars) and then processing the rest of the image through any number of despeckling products, finally re-introducing the starfield as a new layer and blending it in as you see fit.

The compressed jpeg version you posted is unworkable, but perhaps the original raw image has more hope... it is certainly an interesting push on the limits of the camera.

Alex

Deej · 10-08-2006, 11:41 AM

Hey Aaron, when you find that large image and adjust it, send it to me, if you dont mind, amazing that is here in Oregon, i know we have the best coast line, but damn.....

AaronM · 10-08-2006, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Aaron, let's just say that for a digital camera, you are shooting way past it's ability. There are still certain things you can do with say, iso 6400 film that you cannot do with a digital camera because of the noise levels of the CCDs.

You make the issue a little worse because you want to retain the stars, which are similar in nature, size, and shape to much of the noise present from the shooting.

My feeling is that you would have make a number of steps with different products, and would likely have to accept some losses in the starfield to make the rest of the image work out. You may want to try first to extract just the starfield from the image (by selecting the sky area, and then running differentials or selecting by color / intensity to isolate the stars) and then processing the rest of the image through any number of despeckling products, finally re-introducing the starfield as a new layer and blending it in as you see fit.

The compressed jpeg version you posted is unworkable, but perhaps the original raw image has more hope... it is certainly an interesting push on the limits of the camera.

Alex

I don't recall stating that I wanted to keep the stars. I really don't give 2 shits about them. I was simply stating to look past the stars for the noise I was referring to.

With the software that Dean suggested, I am getting exactly what I want.

Thanks for your suggestion but I'm a photographer, not a photoshop expert. A tweak or two is one thing but rebuilding the entire photo is not my cup of tea.

Yes, I am pushing the limits of the camera but that's exactly what I was trying to do.

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10-07-2006, 07:22 PM	#1
AaronM GFY Royality ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,922	Visual Noise Reduction Software? I've been researching this a bit and there are a shitload of programs that do it. Anybody here have any experience and can either recommend a specific product? I'd prefer it to be a Photoshop plug-in but stand alone is OK if it's a better option. I want to use it to remove noise like what you see in this pic. Thank you.

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AaronM GFY Royality ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,922	The rock is actually lit up by the lights from the town. It was pitch black outside when I took the pic and you couldn't even see the rock through the viewfinder. Shot in Seaside, Oregon.

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DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Beautiful stuff man - very nice! Hey Aaron, email me a larger copy of that and let me run it thru my copy of Noise Ninja and see what it looks like. I'll email it back to you - see if you like it! deancapture [at] yahoo.com __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

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Chrome Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 639	hey... you should structure your copyright notice as follows ? Date, your name ? 2006 "your name" It isn't really any safer but it adheres to the copyright dogma and might make an idiot less likely to steal your images. Been meaning to tell you this but you're always being an ass to me so it kinda gets put aside. Nice shot... try to include the north star in them so you can see the sky spinning around it.

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Aaron, let's just say that for a digital camera, you are shooting way past it's ability. There are still certain things you can do with say, iso 6400 film that you cannot do with a digital camera because of the noise levels of the CCDs. You make the issue a little worse because you want to retain the stars, which are similar in nature, size, and shape to much of the noise present from the shooting. My feeling is that you would have make a number of steps with different products, and would likely have to accept some losses in the starfield to make the rest of the image work out. You may want to try first to extract just the starfield from the image (by selecting the sky area, and then running differentials or selecting by color / intensity to isolate the stars) and then processing the rest of the image through any number of despeckling products, finally re-introducing the starfield as a new layer and blending it in as you see fit. The compressed jpeg version you posted is unworkable, but perhaps the original raw image has more hope... it is certainly an interesting push on the limits of the camera. Alex

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