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Old 10-07-2006, 12:07 AM   #1
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Why cant you be a Christian and still do porn?

I think its a relative question in regards to the goings on this week.

where is this written?

who made the proclamation?

why leave the porn indusrty when finding christ?

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Old 10-07-2006, 12:11 AM   #2
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sex is evil unless you're married and doing it to have a kid
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I don't know...I'm catholic (not strict) but I have no problem with being involved in the industry. I think there are worse things like murder or something that God will send you to hell for, not over porn, sex is a perfectly normal human thing.
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I think I read something like this here:

God made the head, arms, legs, torso, and then the devil slapped on the good stuff.
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Old 10-07-2006, 12:13 AM   #5
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Somewhere in The Bible it says something about not having sex before marriage I think. There is probably something in there about having sex where other people can see it too.

There are some pretty good arguments to the contrary though.
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"Depending on the circumstances, the act of intercourse can be either a defilement of the body and soul through lust and indulgence of the senses, or it can be a celebration of God-given sexuality that uplifts the bodies and spirits of both partners. Likewise, pornography could be either degrading and sinful (as it almost always is), or it could depict acts that, when viewed appropriately, could enhance the sexual and sensual relationships of believers... @





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God creates as to have sex not to avoid it.I am good christian and also a good pornographer.
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The 7th commandment was "Thou shall not commit adultery."

And then Christ said in his sermon the mount, "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matt 5:27-8)

I guess homemade porn is the best kind.
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Old 10-07-2006, 12:32 AM   #9
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But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matt 5:27-8)
This is what I never understood. You can't really control your thoughts like that. Unless you are a pederast it is pretty much impossible to look at certain women and not think about sexual things. It is human nature and I don't think it can really be controlled.
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because to Christians sex is only suitable for one reason (making babies). oral, anal, and every other type of sexy is also not allowed. techincally masterbation is not allowed either.

so naturally porn is on the outs with Christians.
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Old 10-07-2006, 12:57 AM   #11
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because to Christians sex is only suitable for one reason (making babies).
oral, anal, and every other type of sexy is also not allowed. .

where does it say this in the bible?
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:01 AM   #12
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The 7th commandment was "Thou shall not commit adultery."

And then Christ said in his sermon the mount, "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matt 5:27-8)
in this context it was meant you do not covet another mans wife.

meaning you dont look at anothers mans wife and want,try, think or actually fuck her.

it mentions nothing in the bible about persons not married.
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:03 AM   #13
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These fucking 'born again' types are all the same. Doesn't matter if it's porn or whatever they use to do. They get in a rut and look for a way out, find god. Then blame everyone but themselves for their past problems.
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:58 AM   #14
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Oh for fuck's sake! The Christians' biblical rationale for nudity and sexuality (most especially women's sexuality) being "sinful" and therefore in need of repression and control by men - begins in Genesis; or perhaps even earlier - see Lilith.

God forbid women should capitalize on the one thing they have that men can't live without, and that the human race as a whole depends upon to successfully continue!

There are any number of religions which not only embrace sexuality, but consider it a sacred act... without restricting the hows, whys and whos with threats of eternal damnation.
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Old 10-07-2006, 05:55 AM   #15
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This is what I never understood. You can't really control your thoughts like that. Unless you are a pederast it is pretty much impossible to look at certain women and not think about sexual things. It is human nature and I don't think it can really be controlled.
That's the whole idea behind the trick.
Making people guilty for something they have no control over. Mind control at its best. You have to leave it to them, they're good.

"Just as the butterfly lays its eggs on the fairest of leaves, so the priest lays sin upon the fairest of joys." - W.B. Yeats
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Old 10-07-2006, 06:46 AM   #16
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where does it say this in the bible?

With some of the so-called christians... it doesn't have to say it anywhere..

They have their beliefs to suit their needs.. They make it up as they go along..

I've seen way too many that say if you do this or that you'll go to Hell, but when asked where it says so in the bible, they have no answer...

Ask any christian how many wise men there were at the jesus' birth... Most will say 3, but nowhere does it say that..

Silly example perhaps, but just goes to show ya...
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Old 10-07-2006, 08:06 AM   #17
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Who said you can't be a "Christian" and still do porn? Yes, it is a conflict of interest but no ones perfect.
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Old 10-07-2006, 09:50 AM   #19
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I'm a christian and go to church every sunday, and I have no problems with working in porn.
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:49 AM   #21
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One point many Christians and others confuse (unless I'm badly mistaken) is that the bible does not really preach that sex outside of marriage is bad per se. It tends to preach instead that monogomy and commitment to a single person is the way to go.

Of course this still makes porn bad in the eyes of most Christians but does not mean you should keep clear of sex outside of marriage as many of them believe.
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in this context it was meant you do not covet another mans wife.

meaning you dont look at anothers mans wife and want,try, think or actually fuck her.

it mentions nothing in the bible about persons not married.
Exactly. It was a proprty issue not a sex issue. Back then wives were property and it was theft to covet another mans wife. There was nothing wrong with multiple partners, wives, or out of wedlock sex including temple hookers. Hookers are both mentioned and used by god in the old testamnet and ofcource there is Jesus's main girl mary magdeline.
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:05 AM   #23
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Jesus was saying that when you lust for someone you already broke a commandment. He is not saying "therefore DONT". In fact ultimately, he died for our sins, including that one.

The bottom line in christianity is that we are ALL sinners, and the judgement is merely a reckoning of degrees. To what degree did you sin etc.

A good person knows if they're a good person. A bad person knows they're bad. It's not that difficult, and nothing is a get out of jail free, or go to jail immediately card. What profession you're in doesnt matter. How you conduct yourself does.
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I'm sure there's a "Christian" sect out there who allows it.
Just join them and you're golden.
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I think the whole sex without marriage thing was written in by a "prophet" that couldn't get laid and jealous that his friends were getting all the action.
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And by the way, for those that see adult entertainment as "tempting" others to sin, and therefore you're sinning yourself, I think you're wrong. Temptation is not something that a person is forced into from an external source. It's an internal "failing" in the individual who succumbs to temptation.

Many people who leave their old lives behind for a new life of devotion to God saw in themselves a failing that they couldnt live with anymore, so I dont think we should judge them harshly. I think it's personally a mistake to think you can save others from themselves (maybe even arrogant; thats what Jesus was here for), but it's not a mistake to save yourself from yourself.

Satan didnt tempt Jesus to corrupt Jesus externally. Satan tempted Jesus to *draw out* any corruption that was already there. That is a huge fundamental difference.

All IMHO anyway.
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Only because porn bussiness is considered to be a sin. Sin, because it proposes to cheet wifes and husbands in one way or another.
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in this context it was meant you do not covet another mans wife.

meaning you dont look at anothers mans wife and want,try, think or actually fuck her.

it mentions nothing in the bible about persons not married.

Some things are implied, otherwise Moses would have been carrying more than just two tablets down the mount.
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In fact, rumor has it that there were actually 15 Commandments, but he dropped the third tablet, so they left it at 10.
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Hell the best TRICK the devil pulled on us is making us believe he is not for real....
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Christian religions know the power of sex, and they use sex and guilt to control their flock. They use it to extract money.

Fuck religion.

I am an atheist.
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Don't some of you realize Christianity is not the same as Catholic, Protestant, etc... And don't some of you realize that "Christianity" spawned from Judaism?

Stop fucking knocking one religion, you ignorant fucks.
Knock them all.

Except Buddhism. I kind of dig that one, even though I don't practice it and even though it's not a real "religion", IMOP.
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So I take it the catholic church is pro-barebacking?
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In fact, rumor has it that there were actually 15 Commandments, but he dropped the third tablet, so they left it at 10.
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So I take it the catholic church is pro-barebacking?

They used to be, but not really sure now since I am not a practicing Catholic. I know their position on cremation has changed, so who knows.
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In fact, rumor has it that there were actually 15 Commandments, but he dropped the third tablet, so they left it at 10.
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Apparently there are commandments in multitudes throughout the Hebrew texts (a triple-digit number) maybe I can find & cite where I read it... most likely on www.infidels.org
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So I take it the catholic church is pro-barebacking?
Yeah, even when the practice is killing on a grand scale (e.g. Africa) because of AIDS.
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I was doing some work at a Christian school a while back and saw this sign put into the bricks inside the school. Don't really understand why you have to be fearful of something to gain wisdom. If there is a God then this makes him sound like a dictator and we all know how that goes.



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I was taught how you treat others is the only thing that will matter to god in the end and the bible was the way the rich controlled the poor.This was taught to me by a priest by the way , a great man.
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the bible was fucking written by regular human beings who wanted to put everyone in place, for fuck sakes

why doesnt everyone open their eyes...
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the bible was fucking written by regular human beings who wanted to put everyone in place, for fuck sakes why doesnt everyone open their eyes...
If thats the case its done a pretty good job for thousands of years and probably thousands more so get used to it.
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If thats the case its done a pretty good job for thousands of years and probably thousands more so get used to it.
yeah its done a great job, if i wasnt made the world would be so different...

but then again, most of the hard bilble guys break the rules daily

for example president bush, does it say your supposed to kill innocent people in the bible? i dont think so...
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