When a client doesn't pay? - GoFuckYourself.com

Chris Corn · 10-05-2006, 05:14 PM

He's 4 days late as of now. Money was supposed to be there on Monday (wire). So far half was paid for 30 sets a month ago and the other half was due on Monday but so far hasn't shown up. I've sent an e-mail everyday for the 5 days with no reply. He's not online or on ICQ and my computer tanked so I cant monitor his ICQ status all the time. How long do I give him before going public? What do I do to get my money? Who owes the rights to the images since he's paid for 30 sets (half) only but now has 60 sets and 5 hours of video content? I was thinking I'd just make my own site out of the material but do I need to give him the money back or not since technically he doesnt own the right anymore? And...if you are reading this please pay up and clear up what the confussion was about.

baddog · 10-05-2006, 05:15 PM

wires can be flakey at times. where is it coming from and going to?

Mutt · 10-05-2006, 05:20 PM

did u and the client sign a contract?

if he doesn't come through with the payment do whatever you want with the content - blow it out to as many people as you can or if you think u can make money with a site do that.

i have a similar situation now and i'm going to give the customer a final chance to get square or i'm going to blow out everything that was shot for him and it's a substantial amount.

Chris Corn · 10-05-2006, 05:31 PM

There is an agreement over ICQ and e-mails which I have saved. The money is coming from Florida to Ontario. Last time is was there in 2 days or even less. What I find fishy is that he isn't answering e-mails. Normally they are answered overnight so that makes me think something is up. The content was shot for a solo site and we still have access to the model and wouldnt mind using her for a site so I'll see what happens.

If I do my own solo site with her what should I do about the money already paid? I'm assuming he's going to use the last 30 sets (and 5 hours of video) as if he had the rights to them so I guess I should just assume that we're pretty much even steven since he's using half content not paid for and I'm using half his.

I guess I'll give him 15 days to work it out, then I'm going to take greater measures. I'm definately giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's been perfect to work with up until now.

Mutt · 10-05-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Corn

There is an agreement over ICQ and e-mails which I have saved. The money is coming from Florida to Ontario. Last time is was there in 2 days or even less. What I find fishy is that he isn't answering e-mails. Normally they are answered overnight so that makes me think something is up. The content was shot for a solo site and we still have access to the model and wouldnt mind using her for a site so I'll see what happens.

If I do my own solo site with her what should I do about the money already paid? I'm assuming he's going to use the last 30 sets (and 5 hours of video) as if he had the rights to them so I guess I should just assume that we're pretty much even steven since he's using half content not paid for and I'm using half his.

I guess I'll give him 15 days to work it out, then I'm going to take greater measures. I'm definately giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's been perfect to work with up until now.

i read your original post quickly - missed the 4 days part - that's way too soon to be panicking.

got a pic of the solo model?

10-05-2006, 05:39 PM

have u tried calling his phone? u only listed that u tried ICQ and email....

Chris Corn · 10-05-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LilBro

have u tried calling his phone? u only listed that u tried ICQ and email....

I dont have a phone number for him. Yeah 4 days is a bit soon. I'll give him 15 days from today.

dissipate · 10-05-2006, 05:50 PM

You send out your cousin Guido.

E$_manager · 10-05-2006, 06:51 PM

You need to wait till the week will be over. You never know what is happening to the man, he can have problems too. Then try to resell it to another person. What is the niche?

Aquarius · 10-05-2006, 06:58 PM

Yeah, give him 15 days, a lot of things may have happened.

AdultInsider Cloner · 10-05-2006, 07:12 PM

Send Lindsay after them =p

Violetta · 10-05-2006, 07:14 PM

why did he get the content before he payed?

E$_manager · 10-05-2006, 07:19 PM

Why don't you have his phone number? You are very improvident.

marketsmart · 10-05-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

why did he get the content before he payed?

thats what i was thinking

squishypimp · 10-05-2006, 07:49 PM

send a note asking him to please pay

reynold · 10-05-2006, 09:24 PM

Try to contact him and see if there's any problem concerning that delayed payment.

jact · 10-05-2006, 09:27 PM

I'm facing the same problem with multiple clients currently, but we're talking 30+ days up to 90+ days overdue.

rodney25 · 10-05-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jact

I'm facing the same problem with multiple clients currently, but we're talking 30+ days up to 90+ days overdue.

Now, that seriously sucks. I wish you good luck.

A-Bomb · 10-05-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultInsider Cloner

Send Lindsay after them =p

Though showing my nerd-dom, I do get you sig

I'm staying with you when I come to Costa Rica!

Gary_TLX · 10-06-2006, 12:24 AM

That sucks, but it might be too soon to do anything extreme. Give him a bit more time like you said.

madawgz · 10-06-2006, 12:27 AM

break his legs!

just kidding

Chris Corn · 10-06-2006, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

why did he get the content before he payed?

Our agreement was to be paid every 10 sets which was the case for the first 30 sets. We just sent the last 30 sets together to finish up the order. Honestly there isn't much I could do with the remainder of the content anyway so at the time there wasnt much of a worry. He was prompt with communications and trustworthy. The only real concern is being taken advantage of (and the money of course). I think he's got a lot to lose by not paying for the rest of the content though because he runs a fairly large program and wants to grow it even bigger. I post back here if he pays or not.

VicD · 10-06-2006, 06:26 AM

Don't react to quick, give it a little more time before you take action

tranza · 10-06-2006, 06:31 AM

That's why I never do anything without being paid upfront.

LAJ · 10-06-2006, 07:04 AM

There are companies out there who've owed us $$ for months. 4 days is not enough time to take action. ALways give them the benefit of the doubt. And then if you determine that they are screwing with that, take action and boycott their business. If it's a trend with them, it'll eventually bite them in the ass. The handful of companies that owe YNOT $$ are for the most part not respected in the biz or are most likely not profitable like they used to be... coincidence? doubtful...

LittleSassy · 10-06-2006, 08:27 AM

Wire are sometimes a pain. Sometimes it'll take 2 weeks before it credits to your bank, depends on the location.

Chris Corn · 10-06-2006, 07:29 PM

Thanks Everyone! Money Is Here And Issue Is Completely Resolved. Client Was Out Of Town (hence No Response To E-mails) And Wired Money Just Before They Left. It Took 5 Days For The Wire To Make It To My Account But It's Here Now!

TimBlaze · 10-06-2006, 07:30 PM

make him drink piss, suge knight style

E$_manager · 10-06-2006, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Corn

Thanks Everyone! Money Is Here And Issue Is Completely Resolved. Client Was Out Of Town (hence No Response To E-mails) And Wired Money Just Before They Left. It Took 5 Days For The Wire To Make It To My Account But It's Here Now!

I told that you shouldn't be so quick with conclusions

10-05-2006, 05:14 PM	#1
Chris Corn Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 237	When a client doesn't pay? He's 4 days late as of now. Money was supposed to be there on Monday (wire). So far half was paid for 30 sets a month ago and the other half was due on Monday but so far hasn't shown up. I've sent an e-mail everyday for the 5 days with no reply. He's not online or on ICQ and my computer tanked so I cant monitor his ICQ status all the time. How long do I give him before going public? What do I do to get my money? Who owes the rights to the images since he's paid for 30 sets (half) only but now has 60 sets and 5 hours of video content? I was thinking I'd just make my own site out of the material but do I need to give him the money back or not since technically he doesnt own the right anymore? And...if you are reading this please pay up and clear up what the confussion was about. __________________ I shoot video. Corn.Christopher (at) gmail.com ICQ 212-072-421

10-05-2006, 05:20 PM	#3
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	did u and the client sign a contract? if he doesn't come through with the payment do whatever you want with the content - blow it out to as many people as you can or if you think u can make money with a site do that. i have a similar situation now and i'm going to give the customer a final chance to get square or i'm going to blow out everything that was shot for him and it's a substantial amount. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

10-05-2006, 05:31 PM	#4
Chris Corn Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 237	There is an agreement over ICQ and e-mails which I have saved. The money is coming from Florida to Ontario. Last time is was there in 2 days or even less. What I find fishy is that he isn't answering e-mails. Normally they are answered overnight so that makes me think something is up. The content was shot for a solo site and we still have access to the model and wouldnt mind using her for a site so I'll see what happens. If I do my own solo site with her what should I do about the money already paid? I'm assuming he's going to use the last 30 sets (and 5 hours of video) as if he had the rights to them so I guess I should just assume that we're pretty much even steven since he's using half content not paid for and I'm using half his. I guess I'll give him 15 days to work it out, then I'm going to take greater measures. I'm definately giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's been perfect to work with up until now. __________________ I shoot video. Corn.Christopher (at) gmail.com ICQ 212-072-421

10-05-2006, 06:51 PM	#9
E$_manager Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: pink adult dreams Posts: 13,557	You need to wait till the week will be over. You never know what is happening to the man, he can have problems too. Then try to resell it to another person. What is the niche? __________________ Enjoy more sales with EnjoyBucks! Homemade: Asian : Ebony : GFs : Voyeur : Nudist : Public : 3D

10-05-2006, 07:12 PM	#11
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10-05-2006, 05:15 PM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	wires can be flakey at times. where is it coming from and going to?

10-05-2006, 05:39 PM	#6
LilBro Guest Posts: n/a	have u tried calling his phone? u only listed that u tried ICQ and email....

10-05-2006, 05:50 PM	#8
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	You send out your cousin Guido.

10-05-2006, 06:58 PM	#10
Aquarius Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mom's basement Posts: 4,754	Yeah, give him 15 days, a lot of things may have happened.

10-05-2006, 07:14 PM	#12
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	why did he get the content before he payed? __________________ M&A Queen

10-05-2006, 07:19 PM	#13
E$_manager Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: pink adult dreams Posts: 13,557	Why don't you have his phone number? You are very improvident. __________________ Enjoy more sales with EnjoyBucks! Homemade: Asian : Ebony : GFs : Voyeur : Nudist : Public : 3D

10-05-2006, 07:49 PM	#15
squishypimp PostMaster General Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,781	send a note asking him to please pay __________________ Signature For Sale

10-05-2006, 09:24 PM	#16
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Try to contact him and see if there's any problem concerning that delayed payment.

10-05-2006, 09:27 PM	#17
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	I'm facing the same problem with multiple clients currently, but we're talking 30+ days up to 90+ days overdue. __________________ Free agent

10-06-2006, 12:24 AM	#20
Gary_TLX Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 776	That sucks, but it might be too soon to do anything extreme. Give him a bit more time like you said. __________________ Quality custom exclusive content: ICQ: 286786153 email: contact(at)tlxproductions(dot)com

10-06-2006, 12:27 AM	#21
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10-06-2006, 06:26 AM	#23
VicD ICQ: 304-611-162 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Masterdam Posts: 13,245	Don't react to quick, give it a little more time before you take action

10-06-2006, 06:31 AM	#24
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	That's why I never do anything without being paid upfront. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-06-2006, 07:04 AM	#25
LAJ Gingerific Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin Posts: 5,567	There are companies out there who've owed us $$ for months. 4 days is not enough time to take action. ALways give them the benefit of the doubt. And then if you determine that they are screwing with that, take action and boycott their business. If it's a trend with them, it'll eventually bite them in the ass. The handful of companies that owe YNOT $$ are for the most part not respected in the biz or are most likely not profitable like they used to be... coincidence? doubtful... __________________ YNOT.com - The original industry resource email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

10-06-2006, 08:27 AM	#26
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10-06-2006, 07:29 PM	#27
Chris Corn Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 237	Thanks Everyone! Money Is Here And Issue Is Completely Resolved. Client Was Out Of Town (hence No Response To E-mails) And Wired Money Just Before They Left. It Took 5 Days For The Wire To Make It To My Account But It's Here Now! __________________ I shoot video. Corn.Christopher (at) gmail.com ICQ 212-072-421

10-06-2006, 07:30 PM	#28
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