The real truth about freehosts. - GoFuckYourself.com

AdultWire · 06-29-2002, 11:38 PM

I've noticed a lot of misconceptions about freehosting floating around, so I thought I'd spend a few minutes to clear some of it up. It's true that some freehosts suck, and it can be more profitable to run your own server or buy virtual if you know what you're doing, but freehosts provide a valuable service, and not all freehost owners are dishonest.

1. Earlier today, Dawgy suggested that some freehosts make their money by frivilously cancelling accounts that are sending search engine hits.

Well, this might be true in some cases, but a reputable freehost owner knows that two things are important to making money in the long run: a) don't piss off your users by doing shit like that, and b) the pages that brought search engine traffic will stop bringing search engine traffic if you delete them. It's not worth pissing off the whole webmaster community for 30 days of marginally increased conversions.

2. Freehosts without headers and footers can't make a profit, and will, therefore, go out of business.

I'm sort of up in the air on this one. Freehost owners often own payed hosting companies, and what better way to upsell, then get a mailing list of webmaster email addresses. I periodically email my webmaster base -- about once every two months, and I use it to encourage system growth, and suggest programs for webmasters to promite.. while spamming my refferer codes all the while. Webmasters who are mismanaging traffic are probably sending it to my ads anyways, and webmasters who are managing traffic well bring in enough conversions to increase my profit. It is important to remain solvent, but I think it's a short-sighted view to think that the only way to profit from a freehost is banners. I, however, do run a footer on my pages.

3. All freehosts redirect legitimate page requests to 404s.

Simply not true. I don't know what else to say. I can name at least 5 freehosts that I bet my left nut, don't do any illegitimate page redirecting.

4. Freehosts are slow.

Simply not true. Some are slow. Right now, I've got at least 10 webmasters who tell me on a regular basis that my host is the fastest, yet, I'm still performing a major server upgrade this month.. Some freehost owners really do care about their clients/webmasters.

I can't honestly sit here and say that all freehosts, or even most freehosts are honest, reliable, fast, and helpfull.

Freehosts, however, are a valuable tool, and if used correctly, can be invaluable in any internet campaign.

[Labret] · 06-29-2002, 11:51 PM

This is how spamming freehosts make me feel

AdultWire · 06-30-2002, 12:04 AM

I'm talking about freehosts in general. But your post made me feel kinda randy.

Brad Mitchell · 06-30-2002, 05:42 AM

Very cool AdultWire...! Good luck for continued growth on your freehost

Brad

P.S. - If you want to do any cross-marketing... let me know!

TFCash · 06-30-2002, 05:44 AM

Is that a can of pop ??

Gemini · 06-30-2002, 06:00 AM

Labret... your beer is gonna get warm if you keep using that body part as a can cozy!

gezzed · 06-30-2002, 09:42 AM

AdultWire, I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you own theadultwire freehost.

I signed up for your service and all I can say is WOW. Fast, clean and a pleasure to look at. It is very rare to find a freehost of your quality, trust me...I've looked.

So, my hat's off to you for providing such a good service, and I wish you much success in the future.

Edit: yeah, ok...so I only notice your sig afterwards.

Gary · 06-30-2002, 09:54 AM

Well, Labret finally posts his pic. Too bad he blurred out his face. Oh well

pr0 · 06-30-2002, 10:05 AM

Adultwire is right, freehosts do provide a invaluable service to newbies & tgp posters alike.

Btw....good job on your one time announcement.

jimmyf · 06-30-2002, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pr0
Adultwire is right, freehosts do provide a invaluable service to newbies & tgp posters alike.

Btw....good job on your one time announcement.

yep good free hosts are great for gallery's

hank · 06-30-2002, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hardcorehosting
Is that a can of pop ??

i think its a redbull

Fletch XXX · 06-30-2002, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf

yep good free hosts are great for gallery's

Yeah Amateur Pages gets a lot of clicks from Smut Server Im sure

chips26 · 06-30-2002, 02:06 PM

I have 2 domains hosted on theadultwire.com.

All I can say is that it rocks and the support is EXCELLENT! Not many people can say about paid hosting.

Keep up the good work Rich

wakan · 08-07-2002, 03:55 AM

AdultWire is down?
How long?

Pathfinder · 08-07-2002, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Posted by AdultWire

Well, this might be true in some cases, but a reputable freehost owner knows that two things are important to making money in the long run: a) don't piss off your users by doing shit like that, and b) the pages that brought search engine traffic will stop bringing search engine traffic if you delete them. It's not worth pissing off the whole webmaster community for 30 days of marginally increased conversions.

Having used many freehosts over the years, it is my opinion that "reputable freehost" is an oxymoron.

Even though one should not say never, I will never use a freehost again.

TFCash · 08-07-2002, 04:44 AM

So did another one bite the dust ???

Tim

06-29-2002, 11:38 PM	#1
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	The real truth about freehosts. I've noticed a lot of misconceptions about freehosting floating around, so I thought I'd spend a few minutes to clear some of it up. It's true that some freehosts suck, and it can be more profitable to run your own server or buy virtual if you know what you're doing, but freehosts provide a valuable service, and not all freehost owners are dishonest. 1. Earlier today, Dawgy suggested that some freehosts make their money by frivilously cancelling accounts that are sending search engine hits. Well, this might be true in some cases, but a reputable freehost owner knows that two things are important to making money in the long run: a) don't piss off your users by doing shit like that, and b) the pages that brought search engine traffic will stop bringing search engine traffic if you delete them. It's not worth pissing off the whole webmaster community for 30 days of marginally increased conversions. 2. Freehosts without headers and footers can't make a profit, and will, therefore, go out of business. I'm sort of up in the air on this one. Freehost owners often own payed hosting companies, and what better way to upsell, then get a mailing list of webmaster email addresses. I periodically email my webmaster base -- about once every two months, and I use it to encourage system growth, and suggest programs for webmasters to promite.. while spamming my refferer codes all the while. Webmasters who are mismanaging traffic are probably sending it to my ads anyways, and webmasters who are managing traffic well bring in enough conversions to increase my profit. It is important to remain solvent, but I think it's a short-sighted view to think that the only way to profit from a freehost is banners. I, however, do run a footer on my pages. 3. All freehosts redirect legitimate page requests to 404s. Simply not true. I don't know what else to say. I can name at least 5 freehosts that I bet my left nut, don't do any illegitimate page redirecting. 4. Freehosts are slow. Simply not true. Some are slow. Right now, I've got at least 10 webmasters who tell me on a regular basis that my host is the fastest, yet, I'm still performing a major server upgrade this month.. Some freehost owners really do care about their clients/webmasters. I can't honestly sit here and say that all freehosts, or even most freehosts are honest, reliable, fast, and helpfull. Freehosts, however, are a valuable tool, and if used correctly, can be invaluable in any internet campaign. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-30-2002, 12:04 AM	#3
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	I'm talking about freehosts in general. But your post made me feel kinda randy. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-30-2002, 05:42 AM	#4
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Very cool AdultWire...! Good luck for continued growth on your freehost Brad P.S. - If you want to do any cross-marketing... let me know! __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

06-30-2002, 09:42 AM	#7
gezzed Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 317	AdultWire, I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you own theadultwire freehost. I signed up for your service and all I can say is WOW. Fast, clean and a pleasure to look at. It is very rare to find a freehost of your quality, trust me...I've looked. So, my hat's off to you for providing such a good service, and I wish you much success in the future. Edit: yeah, ok...so I only notice your sig afterwards. Last edited by gezzed; 06-30-2002 at 09:44 AM..

06-30-2002, 09:54 AM	#8
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Well, Labret finally posts his pic. Too bad he blurred out his face. Oh well __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

06-29-2002, 11:51 PM	#2
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	This is how spamming freehosts make me feel

06-30-2002, 05:44 AM	#5
TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	Is that a can of pop ??

06-30-2002, 06:00 AM	#6
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Labret... your beer is gonna get warm if you keep using that body part as a can cozy!

06-30-2002, 10:05 AM	#9
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Adultwire is right, freehosts do provide a invaluable service to newbies & tgp posters alike. Btw....good job on your one time announcement. __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

06-30-2002, 02:06 PM	#13
chips26 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 98	I have 2 domains hosted on theadultwire.com. All I can say is that it rocks and the support is EXCELLENT! Not many people can say about paid hosting. Keep up the good work Rich

08-07-2002, 03:55 AM	#14
wakan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 89	AdultWire is down? How long?

08-07-2002, 04:44 AM	#16
TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	So did another one bite the dust ??? Tim