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  • _Lush_
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    • Jul 2005
    • 536

    #1

    VBulletin Revokes licence of site with Questionable content

    PirateReports.com, an anti-piracy agent for Jelsoft (the makers of vBulletin) revoked the license one of the biggest US based Anime websites (HongFire.com) for "moral reasons".

    http://www.digg.com/software/PirateR..._moral_reasons

    Not sure how I feel about something like this especially when it is somebody else making a morals call
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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880

    #2
    That's fucked, first directnic is playing internet police, now software vendors are? I'm not familiar with that site, but that site doesn't even appear to be that bad...
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    • Gillespie
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      • Aug 2006
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      #3
      And then they wonder why people crack and redistribute their software... What a bunch of tools.
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      • Jace
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        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #4
        um, if you lease software and are doing something they don't like with it, they have every right to pull the plug

        want to do what you want? BUY THE SOFTWARE

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        • Gillespie
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          • Aug 2006
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          #5
          BTW, vB gave the license back after seeing this publicity disaster.
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          • NaughtyRob
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            • Nov 2004
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            #6
            Good thing they gave it back, what gives them the fucking right to yank it. Thanks lame.
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            • Gillespie
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              • Aug 2006
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              #7
              It just seems that their strong "morals" are not so strong when their business is at stake. That pisses me off.
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              • Jace
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                • Jan 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by GetNaughty
                Good thing they gave it back, what gives them the fucking right to yank it. Thanks lame.
                if they own the software and the customer is leasing the software, they have every right to do what they want with the software THEY OWN

                right here in their license agreement

                The Software may not be used for anything that would represent or is associated with an Intellectual Property violation, including, but not limited to, engaging in any activity that infringes or misappropriates the intellectual property rights of others, including copyrights, trademarks, service marks, trade secrets, software piracy, and patents held by individuals, corporations, or other entities.
                if anyone breaks that, then vbulletin can revoke their license

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                • Jace
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 35562

                  #9
                  not sure what the whole moral thing is though, LOL....

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                  • evildick

                    #10
                    I don't know anything about that site, but some people in the comments section seem to be insinuating the site had anime C P. Not sure what the legalities are on that. I assume it is perfectly legal since it is just cartoons, LOL.

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                    • Gillespie
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                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1391

                      #11
                      That's what someone commented on Digg. Child porn involves the exploitation and corruption of children. With hentai, manga or whatever the hell it is, none of that happens.
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                      • rowan
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                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jace
                        um, if you lease software and are doing something they don't like with it, they have every right to pull the plug

                        want to do what you want? BUY THE SOFTWARE
                        Do you use Windows XP? Check the EULA... you don't own it.

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                        • bizarredollars
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                          • Mar 2006
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                          #13
                          I have mixed opinions on this.. some hentai stuff does have young looking girls, but most of them have huge tits / hairy pussies so do look adult, but have young looing faces..

                          A program in the UK presented by Jonathan(sic) Ross, discussed this, stating that japanese word for it, which I cannot remember right now.. It translated into 'cute'.

                          To have models dressed up to look sweet and innocent is typical with erotic from japan, and they tend to make more noise etc, partly due to the restrictrions on showing genitals etc.

                          Having said that, pornographic (or even erotic) content is known to be illegal in many countries in europe, australia etc... and I would not touch it with a barge pole. I think some people have called it lolidos or similar in the past..

                          I cannot comment on this specific case, as I have not, and do not, want to see the material.. But it is a very tricky and controversial matter, and just because US law says it is legal, does not mean that it is by other counties.

                          As for owning software, very often, you do not OWN it, you own a license to use it.. that's why you are not supposed to have windows or office running on more than a set number of machines.

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                          • Barefootsies
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                            • Feb 2005
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bizarredollars
                            As for owning software, very often, you do not OWN it, you own a license to use it.. that's why you are not supposed to have windows or office running on more than a set number of machines.
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                            • bizarredollars
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                              • Mar 2006
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                              #15
                              The following is a revision of my last post... It took me more than 3 minutes to update.. (partly due to the fact I am trying to type fast as I need to go out soon, and partly due to wine intake)::::

                              I have mixed opinions on this.. some hentai stuff does have young looking girls, but most of them have huge tits / hairy pussies so do look adult, but have young looing faces..

                              A TV program in the UK presented by Jonathan(sic) Ross, discussed this (hentai), telling the japanese word for it, which I cannot remember right now.. It translated into 'cute'. The same word was also used for dolls (not fuck dolls, but targetted at adults as well as kids).

                              To have models dressed up to look sweet and innocent is typical with erotic from japan, and they tend to make more noise etc, partly due to the restrictrions on showing genitals etc.

                              Having said that, pornographic animie/hentai (or even erotic) content is known to be illegal in many countries in europe, australia etc... and I would not touch it with a barge pole. I think some people have called it lolidos or similar in the past..

                              I cannot comment on this specific case, as I have not, and do not, want to see the material.. But it is a very tricky and controversial matter, and just because US law says it is legal, does not mean that it is by other counties.

                              Japan does have a very different culture, intriguing.. but disturbing.. The thought of being able to buy used schoolgirl underwear out of vending machines freaks me out more than a little.

                              As for owning software, very often, you do not OWN it, you own a license to use it.. that's why you are not supposed to have windows or office running on more than a set number of machines.

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                              • fris
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                                • Aug 2002
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                                #16
                                vbseo also doesnt allow adult content, shame its such a good product
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                                • madawgz
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                                  • Mar 2006
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                                  #17
                                  wow thats pretty fucked, the internet is getting smaller and smaller
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                                  • maxcarter101
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Oct 2006
                                    • 666

                                    #18
                                    GOOD. Anime is gay/lame.

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                                    • Cyndalie
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                                      • Jan 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Glad the board I admin is Invision
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                                      • bizarredollars
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                                        • Mar 2006
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                        Glad the board I admin is Invision
                                        They are both nice scripts... I do prefer Invision however.. For what little I do with them, I am not really in a place to judge... I just fix things when they go wrong

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