Art House Feminist film hotter than porn

[Cherry7]

SLEEPING BEAUTY starring Emily Browning

Emily is checked for work into the Agency


Feminist film maker Julia Leighs film is more erotic than most porn, even though it is shot in an Art House style.

For starters the subject is sex, and what the young girl does, not Star Wars XXX, or stupid Nazi Women, the subject is sex.

Remember that fucking? And not is the same way over and over again with plastic grunting

Or that lame stuff that was posted here by Brazzers in their competition with amateur acting about teaching ?

No wonder sales are down if Art house feminism is making hotter films..

[Si]

Edit: missed the title in your post. Will check it out

[PimpStar]

I find that girl very hot, much hotter then many pornstar's
the pureness or something makes her fucking sexy

[MaxCandy]

great film

[The Ghost]

I'll check later to see If I can stroke to it. My penis will make the final decision

[jimmycooper]

Is it hotter than Swimming Pool?

[DVTimes]

do you have a link to the film?

[Hentaikid]

Pity we can't promote it via an aff program

[Jacob[Soft]]

for sure hotter than porn

[RyuLion]

Ass pics, or BUST!

[nikki99]

she looks like a young julie delpy

[The Ghost]

I liked her in Sucker Punch

[adendreams]

http://www.esscurve.com/640/first-lo...g-beauty-video


nudie video alert!

[NoWhErE]

Are there any dancing bears in the movie?

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Gross. Not sexy at all. Looks like she's dead and that man is repulsive.

[gleem]

haha, how are they going to sell tickets to that movie, it features her getting molested while she sleeps, and big old bad Visa says that is illegal to process for..

fucking double standard douche bags.

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by gleem

haha, how are they going to sell tickets to that movie, it features her getting molested while she sleeps, and big old bad Visa says that is illegal to process for..

fucking double standard douche bags.

What are you moaning about? There is no reason why you can't make an erotic movie and request a normal censor certificate. Of course it would mean making a film with a plot, acting, lighting and have artistic value...

Or you could form a trade body and lobby Visa, it is crazy that we have censored erotica, and that tubes are not censured at all.

Good that the feminist sisters are showing us the way...

[gleem]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

What are you moaning about? There is no reason why you can't make an erotic movie and request a normal censor certificate. Of course it would mean making a film with a plot, acting, lighting and have artistic value...

Or you could form a trade body and lobby Visa, it is crazy that we have censored erotica, and that tubes are not censured at all.

Good that the feminist sisters are showing us the way...

Yeah, good luck "lobbying" visa for any type of content they don't want to process for.

I tried "lobbying" for some of my content and was told to shut up or they will yank my account.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

what the hell does gross old dudes molesting sleeping girls have to do with feminism? Nothing. It has nothing to do with it.

[PornoStar69]

feminism = satanism

+ breaks up families

and that's a fact mofos

[Shameless]

Watched the trailer and it looks HOT! LIke Helmut Newton meets porn

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by adendreams

nudie video alert!

nude !
omg !

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by gleem

Yeah, good luck "lobbying" visa for any type of content they don't want to process for.

I tried "lobbying" for some of my content and was told to shut up or they will yank my account.

Not on your own silly, but as part of a Trade Association, get others to join and lobby for change.

If normal censorship was cheaper you could get it certificated (in the UK at least ) then VISA would process it without further censorship.

[Catalyst]

I saw it on the apple tv ( i didn't rent it yet) if it is good I will rent it.. I agree it looked very erotic from the preview

[Abbie]

It made me think of THIS take on the Sleeping Beauty story by Anne Rice

[rowan]

Holy cow... I just realised who this was. I remember seeing her when she was about 10 or 11 on an Australian TV series. She's sure grown up.

<insert witty joke about a hairy muff in a feminist film>

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

What are you moaning about? There is no reason why you can't make an erotic movie and request a normal censor certificate. Of course it would mean making a film with a plot, acting, lighting and have artistic value...

Or you could form a trade body and lobby Visa, it is crazy that we have censored erotica, and that tubes are not censured at all.

Good that the feminist sisters are showing us the way...

"There is no reason why you can't make an erotic movie and request a normal censor certificate." No reason what so ever. In fact it's pretty easy in the scheme of making movies.

The speed bump is money. Who will invest the huge sums to shoot such a movie that's dominated by sex? HBO are churning out endless series that are full of great but pointless sex scenes that never get to the level of showing penetration. Full frontal sometimes, boobs all the time. So there are your movies with great production, acting, story, etc. would it sell with 50% sex scenes that didn't do the Full Monty?

Would it sell with 50% of scenes that did go the Full Monty. not on HBO.

It can be shot, getting porn actors to kiss and make love with real passion isn't hard. Why don't we?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Feminist film maker Julia Leighs film is more erotic than most porn, even though it is shot in an Art House style.

For starters the subject is sex, and what the young girl does, not Star Wars XXX, or stupid Nazi Women, the subject is sex.

Remember that fucking? And not is the same way over and over again with plastic grunting

Or that lame stuff that was posted here by Brazzers in their competition with amateur acting about teaching ?

No wonder sales are down if Art house feminism is making hotter films..

Cherry what's stopping you making a film like this? You tell us how good you are, how many books you've read and you love for erotic porn. So go ahead and shoot it.

And there in a nutshell is why you or Brazzers don't shoot it and the state of the industry today.

Shooting a scene with real acting, script, professional lighting, and all the other stuff you rave about costs a lot of money. Firstly pointless having a competition for the director, handful of people who can do this. Same goes for the rest of the crew.

This isn't something you shoot in a $500 location either, then wardrobe, make up, equipment, etc.

Can't shoot 2 scenes a day either. Then we have to be very careful of the models picked, they have to be willing and able to produce erotic scenes and not do the same old actions they have done 100s of times before.

Maybe Max will come in and let us know the budget on his movie, to give you an idea.

Still everything is possible, given the money. I personally didn't find that stuff very erotic. Yong girls being sexually abused by old men isn't my thing. I'm more into old men being sexually abused by 30 year old women. But I get that at home.

[Fletch XXX]

having worked first hand around vca production for so long back in the day there will always be a huge difference between the types of porn someone shoot in a motel and those that shoot at a mansion with a huge production crew.

thou cannot compare ninn to backalley cum dumpsters 9 ;)

[DWB]

I don't think the majority of porn is "erotic" at all. It's just people fucking. Not erotic.

[DWB]

[DWB]

Sucker Punch

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by DWB

I don't think the majority of porn is "erotic" at all. It's just people fucking. Not erotic.

Absolutely.

What i am saying is the problem is that porn makers are not interested in sex.

That is the shocking truth, That a an Art House director is interested and it shows, it has sexual tension. It has nothing to the end of the film the sleeping beauty bit. It is the fact that the film makers are interested in the subject of sex, Not Nazi women, women driving tanks, not Star Wars or what ever they liked when they were 12.

It is not a matter of money. There was plenty of money on Max Candy's film, Markham Wasted $3000 on a clip, it reflects the contempt the porn industry holds its audience.

What would be a good subject for discussion would be original ideas for sex scenes and films.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

It is not a matter of money. There was plenty of money on Max Candy's film, Markham Wasted $3000 on a clip, it reflects the contempt the porn industry holds its audience.

What would be a good subject for discussion would be original ideas for sex scenes and films.

It's all about money. It's business. Whether this film makes a profit will determine if they get to shoot another one.

I agree with you that most porn is unemotional, un erotic, unreal and detached from the real thing. Go take a look on www.mrskin.com and see how Hollywood does sex.

Then shoot the same thing and include a reason to be fucking, erections, penetration, genitals, oral sex showing all, intimacy and finish with a cum shot.

I shot two girls picking up a guy in a car and the comments showed people loved the intimacy of the three. OK it was tagged onto the photo shoot. It made over $10,000 off the store sales alone. Plus everything else it would be double that. We shot a bit of this type when we had the right girls.

Now then would a wholes site work shot along the same lines? Nothing fancy like you want to do, but a bit better than we did on video. Just real sex with all the emotions, intimacy and real pleasure?

I've seen some of your stuff and you're too wrapped up in impressing people with your behind the camera skills. This work takes porn and people skills. The camera work is easy.

Even the clip I shot of Sandra showed her pleasure and orgasms. You would of been in no doubt if the idiot at Manwin hadn't edited out the ending. AND there's the real problem. A company with the money to shoot something above the norm, has an editor who is clueless. And doesn't follow the instructions of the shooter.

Could I take it to a better level on a budget of $3,000 all the time and being fit? Yes, but you can't do that on Manwin's normal solo girl budget of $2,000 for 3 scenes and definitely not on a ATK budget of $1500 for 10 sets or 5 set/video scenes.

Yes it's all about the money and the ideas will flow once the money is there.

[porno jew]

were you raised a catholic or at least religious? there is a puritanical streak in you that remains unchanged, although how you frame it now has.

[John-ACWM]

Wanted to watch it but it doesn't have a decent rating on imdb.

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by John-ACWM

Wanted to watch it but it doesn't have a decent rating on imdb.

It is an art house movie, I did not think it was great, but as I an interested in the erotic I thought is was worth a look. I do think the actress is very beautiful and there are some charged scenes.


Sorry Paul, but you are wrong, ideas do not in themselves cost more money. Sometimes a new idea will be cheaper.

The editor did not ruin your scene, you did. You did not have any fresh new idea, you did not spend any of the money you had to create an atmosphere, shoot in a new way, you just took the money.

Sadly it is no use talking to you as you refuse to learn anything from anyone.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by DWB

I don't think the majority of porn is "erotic" at all. It's just people fucking. Not erotic.

this ...

[Chosen]

Going to watch it for sure

[Abbie]

I watched this last night on itunes after reading about it on here. It was "erotic" minus the old man penis I could have done with out. But more so it was a very sad movie She is extremely hot though!

[porno jew]

looks pretentious even for an art film. pass.

[Voodoo]

Porn is Porn.
Erotica is Erotica.

Men buy Porn. It's straight and to the point.
Erotica sells to women and nice guys.

Cherry7, you are trying to compare apples and oranges. Stop it. /thread.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

Porn is Porn.
Erotica is Erotica.

Men buy Porn. It's straight and to the point.
Erotica sells to women and nice guys.

Cherry7, you are trying to compare apples and oranges. Stop it. /thread.

No you're wrong. It can be erotic and porn, it's hard to marry the two and in today's market probably unprofitable. Yes it would appeal to women as well. Big market is men who don't want to see porn with sluts. Want to feel the real emotions.

It's easier today to churn out BG scenes for $1500-$2,000 that all look the same and have little reason to buy.

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No you're wrong. It can be erotic and porn, it's hard to marry the two and in today's market probably unprofitable. Yes it would appeal to women as well. Big market is men who don't want to see porn with sluts. Want to feel the real emotions.

It's easier today to churn out BG scenes for $1500-$2,000 that all look the same and have little reason to buy.

I'm not wrong. Open a dictionary. I said "erotica". Not "erotic". They are quite different.

Erotica is a form of art dealing with sexual love... Porn however, is not. Porn is a publishing thought to create or satisfy a an excessive desire for something, usually luxurious.

There is a line that separates them, a line of medium thickness, but a line none the less.

Again, this is an apples to oranges conversation. It's like me saying...

"Sci Fi films are better than Suspense movies! No wonder more people like SciFi films, Suspense movies don't have any aliens in them!"

It's a pointless argument.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

I'm not wrong. Open a dictionary. I said "erotica". Not "erotic". They are quite different.

Erotica is a form of art dealing with sexual love... Porn however, is not. Porn is a publishing thought to create or satisfy a an excessive desire for something, usually luxurious.

There is a line that separates them, a line of medium thickness, but a line none the less.

Again, this is an apples to oranges conversation. It's like me saying...

"Sci Fi films are better than Suspense movies! No wonder more people like SciFi films, Suspense movies don't have any aliens in them!"

It's a pointless argument.

It's all in the eye of the beholder. Can a porn film be also erotica?

Well maybe it can in the right hands. Does this film include penetration oral sex, kissing, etc. and what's needed to make it also porn yet still with the erotica kept there. If not can it be done. Then is it profitable?

The line is the depth of your imagination.

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It's all in the eye of the beholder. Can a porn film be also erotica?

Well maybe it can in the right hands. Does this film include penetration oral sex, kissing, etc. and what's needed to make it also porn yet still with the erotica kept there. If not can it be done. Then is it profitable?

The line is the depth of your imagination.

Well, sure. That's like saying, can a sci-fi film also be suspenseful?

I mean, it's just 2 different types of adult entertainment, but they are both quite different. I'm just saying that this topic is kind of pointless. She is comparing 2 entirely different concepts and placing a personal opinion on it, ie., "hotter than porn". There is no scientific metrics to back this statement up, there are not stats proving this statement, therefore, it's simply an opinion stated as fact.

"No wonder sales are down if Art house feminism is making hotter films.." <-- This is the statement that just irks me.

I personally think she should post stats for sales of Art House feminism films and compare it to the sales of the porn industry. I have a feeling this ignorant and biased statement will prove untrue.

She obviously has a boner for the film erotica, as per her sig.

[Sophie Delancey]

It doesn't look like that art house film is necessarily feminist, at least overtly. I'm sure there are aspects, but I think specifically tying feminism to any sort of softer/more aesthetically pleasing form of sexuality is sort of a misnomer.

The fact is that well-shot, more pleasure-based and more genuine porn can sell extremely well, and it is often outrightly feminist, plain and simple, without having to use is as a buzzword. Sometimes actions speak louder than words.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

She obviously has a boner for the film erotica, as per her sig.

She's a man.

[CaptainHowdy]

Looks more like an exploitation film to me ...

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

She's a man.