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  • honsiller
    Registered User
    • Sep 2006
    • 33

    #1

    Important information regarding problems with 365 billing

    365 billing did not make payroll Friday for some of their call center employees and the reason given was that they were having issues with their bank. A separate source confirmed that their acquiring bank had pulled their US merchant account.

    I dug a little bit and would not have posted what I did if I did not discover what follows.

    All logos except for the Visa/Mastercard logos are gone from their signup pages. If they are settling the transactions, they may be doing it from a non-US merchant account, which leaves their clients open to cross-border acquiring violations.

    https://secure.365billing.com/cgi-bi...f2e45026538ce7


    A look at a signup form shows a prechecked "Check here to certify that you are 18 years of age" statement, which now removes the legal protection for the ipsp as well as the website owner, of requiring the consumer to opt-in to the premise that they are over 18. A website owner or ipsp will have a tough time in court defending how they keep the content away from minors when they have a prechecked ?I am over 18? statement. The only reason I could think of why they would change this is that they need throughput, regardless of the consequences.

    https://secure.365billing.com/cgi-bi...2de7ff8e10295f
  • spunkmaster
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2004
    • 2052

    #2
    Ooohhh Shit ?

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    • squishypimp
      PostMaster General
      • Aug 2006
      • 10781

      #3
      is this for real?

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      • Barefootsies
        Choice is an Illusion
        • Feb 2005
        • 42635

        #4
        whoa... now I am REALLY glad I went another direction.

        Ouch!

        Where's Ant'ony?!?!
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        Enough Said.

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        • CaptainHowdy
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2004
          • 94741

          #5
          .........

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          • KingK7
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2002
            • 6372

            #6
            Damn that is some disturbing news...

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            • Calvinguy
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 1752

              #7
              All I see is a visa and mastercard logo, no other card logos are present. No pre-check either...

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              • Penrod
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2001
                • 3580

                #8
                My join pages are still showing all logos and not asking to click a box stating they are 18

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                • artman
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 770

                  #9
                  wow not good
                  hope it all works out for them, we need more billers in this industry

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                  • honsiller
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 33

                    #10
                    Customers calling their call center have to wait 30 minutes plus for the phone to get answered, if it is answered at all. This may be a result of CS not getting paid Friday.

                    If I were a 365 billing client, I would get some definite answers on what region the Visa transactions are getting settled out of, in order to not risk my Visa merchant status and my ability to process Visa transactions.

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                    • scottybuzz
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2006
                      • 14799

                      #11
                      hmmm sigspot :/ i guess.
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                      • layinglow
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 127

                        #12
                        serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.
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                        • Calvinguy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1752

                          #13
                          honsiller:
                          Join Date: 09-26-2006
                          PostsTotal Posts: 32 (32 posts per day)

                          Exactly what do you want and who are you?

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                          • Wizzo
                            2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                            • Nov 2000
                            • 15224

                            #14
                            You would think that if this was legit, someone would post under a real nic!

                            Who the fuck are you honsiller? 32 posts of which no substance until this one?? Something is fishy, also our 365 pages are fine!
                            Looking for Opportunity!

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                            • KingK7
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 6372

                              #15
                              Originally posted by layinglow
                              serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.
                              Are you joking?
                              Shit....

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                              • Anthony
                                Keyboard Warrior
                                • Feb 2001
                                • 9653

                                #16
                                We must really be scaring people in this industry!

                                365billings President got a call yesterday evening from one of our clients having heard the exact same rumor directly from a BILLING REP of another IPSP (Processor).

                                If any one of our customers, partners or prospects have any LEGITIMATE concerns, please contact your rep or our customer service line.

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                                • Wizzo
                                  2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                  • Nov 2000
                                  • 15224

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by layinglow
                                  serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.
                                  WOW... another worthless shit sack fake nic that has the facts WRONG.... Its not a $7.95 trial, its $7.95 a MONTH billed annually.
                                  Looking for Opportunity!

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                                  • Nad
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 503

                                    #18
                                    honsiller what rock did you crawl out of? you are pretty busy today since it hasn't even been 2 hours since you registered...
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                                    • Anthony
                                      Keyboard Warrior
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 9653

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by honsiller
                                      Customers calling their call center have to wait 30 minutes plus for the phone to get answered, if it is answered at all. This may be a result of CS not getting paid Friday.

                                      If I were a 365 billing client, I would get some definite answers on what region the Visa transactions are getting settled out of, in order to not risk my Visa merchant status and my ability to process Visa transactions.
                                      Are you on crack? Where are you calling from? Pluto?

                                      Feel free to get those answers on the visa region, we run a tight ship and you'll find we are 100% legit.

                                      We love the free Advertising! Thanks!

                                      Btw, the average hold time today is 49 seconds.

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                                      • 363R
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 217

                                        #20
                                        Real classy post

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                                        • tranza
                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 57559

                                          #21
                                          Is this for real or not?
                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                          • Anthony
                                            Keyboard Warrior
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 9653

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tranza
                                            Is this for real or not?
                                            Let's see, 2 nicks that just signed up today, attacking us, what do you think?

                                            Just check out all of honsiller's posts today and you can find what his motive is.

                                            Having Haters is a sure sign you are coming up in the world!

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                                            • Dollarmansteve
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2005
                                              • 2849

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by layinglow
                                              serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.
                                              Your powers of perception lead me to believe that you are a genius businessman.
                                              I died.

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                                              • Forest
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 9135

                                                #24
                                                365billing is top notch in my book

                                                They have awesome support and a great team working hard for your processing

                                                fake nicks need to get a clue

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                                                • Forest
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 9135

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by layinglow
                                                  serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.

                                                  HAHAHAHAHAHA

                                                  What a MORON!

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                                                  • DirtyJs
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Sep 2006
                                                    • 307

                                                    #26
                                                    '365BILL.COM GOLTRANE, Spain *Goltrane S.L.' will appear on your cardholder statement.
                                                    *Special membership of 7.95 will be billed annually at the rate of 95.40
                                                    You must be 18 years of age or older to purchase access!

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                                                    • Theo
                                                      HAL 9000
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 34515

                                                      #27
                                                      needs to be banned

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                                                      • Barefootsies
                                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 42635

                                                        #28
                                                        I was going to say.. I had just TALKED to Ant'ony.

                                                        Crazy shit in the business smearing other companies... Christ..

                                                        Should You Email Your Members?

                                                        Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                        Enough Said.

                                                        "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                        • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                          • 1785

                                                          #29
                                                          This is indeed a fact, no bullshit to this one. CCG, the company behind 365Billing as well as OPS Billing (not paying clients) did not make payroll last week.

                                                          I may not be E.F. Hutton but is this the place you want your company's financail future????

                                                          Just look at the people behind the organization for your answers. You won't have to dig too deep to draw your own conclusions on trustworthiness, loyalty and honesty.
                                                          Sigless

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                                                          • XPays
                                                            Team Player
                                                            • May 2004
                                                            • 13002

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                                            This is indeed a fact, no bullshit to this one. CCG, the company behind 365Billing as well as OPS Billing (not paying clients) did not make payroll last week.

                                                            I may not be E.F. Hutton but is this the place you want your company's financail future????

                                                            Just look at the people behind the organization for your answers. You won't have to dig too deep to draw your own conclusions on trustworthiness, loyalty and honesty.
                                                            what info do you have connecting them to ops billing? please post or email legal @ xpays
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                                                            • honsiller
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Sep 2006
                                                              • 33

                                                              #31
                                                              Legitimately exposing issues with a processing company would only make me enemies. And attacking the poster rather than the merits of the points is directly out of the spin playbook.

                                                              When I called the call center I was on hold for 30 minutes before I gave up

                                                              With how instable adult processing has been over the past 7 years, I felt the recent changes with the ?I am over 18? disclosure and not having discover and jcb credit card options on the signup forms I had checked were worth posting about, on top of them not being able to pay their call center staff. I was not the only one to bring this up

                                                              Originally posted by MikeSmoke
                                                              someone did...but we were never notified.

                                                              you can sure tell from their client support that something's very different, though

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                                                              • MikeSmoke
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 3241

                                                                #32
                                                                Hey - leave me out of this one.
                                                                I don't know anything about these accusations one way or another, but taking a part of a post from another thread about something completely different is NOT fair game

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                                                                • DutchTeenCash
                                                                  I like Dutch Girls
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 21684

                                                                  #33
                                                                  so fuckin banned

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                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 16015

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by XPays
                                                                    what info do you have connecting them to ops billing? please post or email legal @ xpays
                                                                    He's a former IBill employee, perhaps a former 365 employee now as well?

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                                                                    • RogerV
                                                                      Banned!
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 12591

                                                                      #35
                                                                      FYI Our 365 pages are fine and sales and payment havnt changed..

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                                                                      • jcsike
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2006
                                                                        • 689

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Probably a bunch of bullshit, I have heard great things about 365 billing

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                                                                        • RonC
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 236

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                          FYI Our 365 pages are fine and sales and payment havnt changed..

                                                                          Roger

                                                                          I just got back from Europe so I have not responded to this till now. I can tell you that our bankers confirmed that 365 Merchant aquiring bank in the US decided to exit the High Risk processing space this last week. I am not sure if they have found another relationship at this point or not but hopefully management will put out an offical statement since this is now common knowledge in the banking community.


                                                                          Ron Cadwell
                                                                          CEO
                                                                          _____________
                                                                          CCbill.com
                                                                          Cavecreek.com
                                                                          DRMNetworks.com

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                                                                          • SomeCreep
                                                                            :glugglug
                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 26118

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by tranza
                                                                            Is this for real or not?
                                                                            What is real? How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

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                                                                            • PayMeNow
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Sep 2006
                                                                              • 8

                                                                              #39
                                                                              "
                                                                              08-02-2006, 08:03 PM #8
                                                                              BBWH121


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                                                                              Hello,
                                                                              We are in the same business and OPsbilling has not paid me in over 2 months and it is always the same damn story "well not now,Now they will not even return my calls or e-mails" but I was receiving e-mails stating oh you will get paid this week and then nothing-same shit all the time and now need a payment processor! Anybody know of a good one?"

                                                                              Anthony, when we met on Internext OPSbilling name was right on your booth next to 365billing and Jettis- someone got a picture saved maybe? BTW, from CCG Technologies (your parent company I guess) website:
                                                                              "With the demands of changing markets and traditional models, CCG takes an innovative approach, offering clients more options and enabling them to better manage their long-term business objectives. The four primary clients CCG manages are 365Billing, Jettis, OPS
                                                                              and 3Cinteractive."
                                                                              Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                              Sorry - 2nd part to this was cut off this morning.

                                                                              ---=

                                                                              365 BILLING LAUNCHES 365 MOBILE SOLUTIONS
                                                                              Customers of CCG Technologies, which also include Jettis and OPS Billing, can immediately take advantage of this mobile solution.
                                                                              I need some clarification before I give you guys a try... Hope you can understand.
                                                                              Ronald

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                                                                              • RonC
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 236

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by PayMeNow
                                                                                "
                                                                                08-02-2006, 08:03 PM #8
                                                                                BBWH121


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                                                                                Hello,
                                                                                We are in the same business and OPsbilling has not paid me in over 2 months and it is always the same damn story "well not now,Now they will not even return my calls or e-mails" but I was receiving e-mails stating oh you will get paid this week and then nothing-same shit all the time and now need a payment processor! Anybody know of a good one?"

                                                                                Anthony, when we met on Internext OPSbilling name was right on your booth next to 365billing and Jettis- someone got a picture saved maybe? BTW, from CCG Technologies (your parent company I guess) website:
                                                                                "With the demands of changing markets and traditional models, CCG takes an innovative approach, offering clients more options and enabling them to better manage their long-term business objectives. The four primary clients CCG manages are 365Billing, Jettis, OPS
                                                                                and 3Cinteractive."


                                                                                I need some clarification before I give you guys a try... Hope you can understand.

                                                                                I am not sure if this was directed to me or not? If so please let me know what clarification you need from CCbill?

                                                                                Ron Cadwell

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                                                                                • tony299
                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 57021

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Hi Ron is there a email I can reach you at?

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                                                                                  • RonC
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                    • 236

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                    Hi Ron is there a email I can reach you at?
                                                                                    Tony404

                                                                                    [email protected] I am getting ready for bed since I just flew 18hrs from Europe this morning/night or what ever at this point LOL

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                                                                                    • Konda
                                                                                      ...
                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                      • 2280

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by XPays
                                                                                      what info do you have connecting them to ops billing? please post or email legal @ xpays
                                                                                      Connecting them? It's the same people who run both, thats a pretty clear connection?

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                                                                                      • sperbonzo
                                                                                        I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                        • 9750

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by RonC
                                                                                        Roger

                                                                                        I just got back from Europe so I have not responded to this till now. I can tell you that our bankers confirmed that 365 Merchant aquiring bank in the US decided to exit the High Risk processing space this last week. I am not sure if they have found another relationship at this point or not but hopefully management will put out an offical statement since this is now common knowledge in the banking community.


                                                                                        Ron Cadwell
                                                                                        CEO
                                                                                        _____________
                                                                                        CCbill.com
                                                                                        Cavecreek.com
                                                                                        DRMNetworks.com
                                                                                        Wow Ron, I didn't expect to see you in this thread.


                                                                                        .
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                                                                                        • karlm
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                          • 4194

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Im confused as usual
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                                                                                          • Calvinguy
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 1752

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            This thread took quite a turn after RonC posted here

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                                                                                            • Quick Buck
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                                                              • 1026

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Interesting to see that 365 just posted an official statement that their acquiring bank has not exited and is not exiting high risk.

                                                                                              I have no interest in this thread since I don't use ccbill or 365, but if what Ron is saying is true then this is bad news for 365, if what he is saying is not true then he owes 365 an apology. JMHO.
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                                                                                              • Forest
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                                • 9135

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                This is indeed a fact, no bullshit to this one. CCG, the company behind 365Billing as well as OPS Billing (not paying clients) did not make payroll last week.

                                                                                                I may not be E.F. Hutton but is this the place you want your company's financail future????

                                                                                                Just look at the people behind the organization for your answers. You won't have to dig too deep to draw your own conclusions on trustworthiness, loyalty and honesty.
                                                                                                arent you a former employee of the company that started 365?

                                                                                                sour grapes?

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                                                                                                • Verotel
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 202

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by PayMeNow
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                                                                                                  • scoreman
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                                                                    • 1491

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