What a dumbass..as a venezuelan I´m truly ashamed.
I would have loved it if someone in that press conference had asked him why he is so worried about the iraqi death toll while in my country more people die every weekend violent deaths.Or why 20 of every 1000 prisoners in Venezuelan jails die.Or why so many children die of malnourishment every day.

I´m not a Bush supporter by any means but Chavez is just as bad.It´s just that he is love by "armchair leftists" everywhere.

damn mexicans always causing problems

damn mexicans always causing problems

President of Venesuela. Great guy!

Lol, nice sarcasm.

You asked for a link. I gave you one out of several hundred. Go and find your own links in future you lazy bastard.

So, your source is better than mine, eh?

The problem of the 'got a link?' mentality, beautifully illustrated.

The thing is, that since you are on the hard left, it's known that what you say is [almost certainly] way, way lower in importance than someone who is not on the hard left, even before you put finger to keyboard.

As soon as someone like myself, or 12clicks, or one of the more rational people on the board come in, you're stuck. That's just how it is for hard lefties. Although you have to accept some responsibility for yourself, it's probably more to do with your genes and upbringing. Lefties are perfectly ok when it comes to completing a task they are given, but when it comes to thinking for themselves, they fail almost every time. To think that Hugo Chavez is a 'great guy' when all the evidence is to the contrary is exceptionally poor.

Knowing that you are on the hard left, surely it would be better to just stay out of political discussions, because you should know by now that you have nothing to add, and you just waste people's time. So rather than embarrass yourself further like Mother Sheehan :1orglaugh , Noam Chomsky :1orglaugh , George Galloway :1orglaugh or Jimmy Carter (lolol at that guy), who just keep on going and going without shame, ad nauseam, just stay out of it and let the better people talk. If kids come into a thread and want some information then they can have it, but people like you shouldn't be here, as even things with a neutral comprehension of world affairs such as monkeys, earthworms and blocks of wood are more accurate than the likes of you, that lunatic-coward directfiesta and the 'tasty hat' guy, Mr. Soul.


Lol.

... you meant RADICAL... didn't you ????

Well perhaps in your fucked up world, radical means rational. But you don't surprise me any more. You'd only surprise me if you came into a thread and weren't either cowardly or completely wrong, or both.

By the way, I took a guess the other day that you are Quebecois? Was I right?

You claimed a lot and never backed it up with anything - that's called spew.

You got it.


Now we have more spew - the usual rambling from an idiot full of assumptions, arrogance, sound and fury and signifying nothing.

Have you even answered the claims you spewed earlier? Nope - just a total ramble that obviously pleases you and avoids any fact.

Dream on!! The illness is terminal :1orglaugh :1orglaugh



PS Remember to check under your bed for Muslims and Hezbollah - they are everywhere :pimp

Hugo Chavez is a very dangerous Trotzky-st...dumb are those who minimalize his powers.

You really do have a problem and need a "cause" and enemies, don't you? LOL

Agree he-fox - he *could* end up being a problem character.





PS And just for Lazonby - Bush is far more dangerous right now :winkwink:

But you're a hard leftist, so it doesn't matter what you say anyway.



Lol, yeah right. You dumb leftist.




What am I supposed to do - get yet another link from google to back myself up? It's not like I'm arguing with someone important.

The facts of this case are - Hugo Chavez is a hard lefty. Not only this, but he is also absolutely crazy. Hard lefties have tendency to stick to power a little longer than they're entitled. Crazy lefties have a tendency to do everything they can to stay in power. So, does Chavez want to be in power forever? Yes. Will he try and stay in power forever? Yes.

It's also a fact he is busom buddies with Ahmadinejad of Iran and has stated numerous times that he will co-operate fully with the Islamist Iranian government in the fight against the US. So, since it is known that HizbAllah operate in South America anyway and since Chavez has already said he will co-operate fully with Ahmadinejad, what do you think the chances are of HizbAllah being allowed to operate in Venezuela? I'd reckon 100%.

You'd probably need a link from google to point these things out to you though. God forbid you use your own brain. Do you need a link to tell you when to wipe your arse too?



I already checked and you were absolutely right as usual - my 'under bed space' was crammed with Muslims.

My cause is swatting lefty flies like you.

Assumptions, assumptions - they never end do they?? :1orglaugh It's the classic weakness of the mentally inhibited.

Damn.. your "cause" sounds kinda pointless - try and get some experience and have a clue before attempting to swat anything :thumbsup

A peek into the mind of the Lefty - Webby would rather wait until Chavez absolutely proved beyond doubt that he a danger. Say, by allowing Iran to ship a nuke to a US refinery in a Venezuelan tanker, or by supporting a left-wing coup or whatever.

People with sense realise that it is better to nip problems in the bud. Since we know Chavez is a lunatic, since he tells us every chance he gets that he a lunatic, since he hangs out with other lunatics, lunatics who chant "death to America and all infidels", we know it's better to stop him BEFORE he can ship that nuke or fund that coup or whatever.

Bush is fairly dangerous, but not nearly enough, to governments who sponsor terrorism. He should be far more so. He should make the scumbags fear him.

Told ya - they are everywhere. I knew you would find them :1orglaugh

And yet any assumption I may have is automatically far higher than anything you could come up with. You're a lefty. Nothing more than a peon. Get down the mines, peon :1orglaugh

So..... you just don't like Hugo much??? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


BTW.. Chavez is manufacturing WMD and planning to attack the US because he has intelligence that the US has weapons of mass destruction. This has proven to be more reliable the Bush's intell on Iraq :winkwink:

Still more assumptions from the mentally unstable?? You are now making assumptions based on your own assumptions?? No wonder you get fucked up :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I masterbated 20 minutes ago

Mr. Danger, the funniest name given to bush thus far :1orglaugh

Here's the video for Chavez's speech in front of the UN:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_vi...ml?id=2026044n

I love President Chavez's remarks and I'm glad someone has the balls to say this on such a large platform

Thanks for the link - useful to have a clue as to what Chavez did actually say without the dramatic headlines.

Who knows, - he probably did voice the attitude of most countries and people, although in his usual contraversial style. (At least he wore a suit and subdued his usual rambling :) )

There are a good number of others leaders who are, more of less, of the same opinion, tho they are far more effective with "words" and delivery. Oddly, a fair number of these leaders come from the oldest democracies in the world and have played an effect role in "nation peacemaking" which is far harder than making decisions to go to war. Strange they see a small problem :)

Considering all of the bad stuff said about Chavez by the US government and media, don't any of you find it a little strange that NONE of it is backed up with allegations of any kind? Only name calling.

He was elected fairly by the people.

He has no WMD, and nobody has ever claimed he does.

He does not harm his own people, and nobody has ever claimed he has. Criminal execution isn't even legal there.

You can't call the country Islamic extremists either. According to Wikipedia, a stunning 96% of the country is Roman Catholic.


Other than his desire to slam Bush any chance he gets, is there a legit reason to hate this man?

That was 8 years ago.Since then he has relied on a bunch of electoral trickery to grab all the power in the country.The guy controls the electoral council,the supreme court,the congress...do I need to go on?


He´s got many political prisoners for openly opposing him. The president of the biggest workers union here spent some time in prison before he managed to escape recently.And that is just one case.Not to mention all the deaths of his opponents at the hands of his supporters and the national guard.
I wont even go in to the fact that while there are thousands of families without homes here, he´s travelling around the world buying support by building hospitals,schools and homes in other countries.We could use that money here!

Well I live in Venezuela and I have dozens of reasons.Among them is the fact that he´s divided the people here and instigated hate among fellow venezuelans.

ALL your answers apply word for word to Bush also ... and probably a few dozens leader ...

Obviously, you probably were pretty close to the previous right wing powerfull leaders, and since their departures, you have felt personnally the loss of priviliges that you weere granted ... :2 cents:

Yes!!!!!!!

He has OIL , a shit load of it .

Chavez hates Bush so much that he sells the US his OIL.

id take a drug kingpin any day over a terrorist like bush

CITGO's Low Cost Heating Oil Program

From the Venezuelan Heart to the U.S. Hearths

CITGO Petroleum Corporation is distributing heating oil at discounted prices this winter as part of an initiative aimed at helping poor communities in areas of the country most affected by cold winters.

The initial program was launched in communities in the Boston area and in the Bronx, in New York City.

The first phase of the program, in Boston, will offer up to 12 million gallons of heating oil with discounts from market prices. The value of these discounts is nearly $10 million at current market prices. This initiative has been made possible with the full support of CITGO's parent company, Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. (PDVSA), the state oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

In New York, CITGO is providing up to 8 million gallons of discounted heating oil, which will mean savings in the millions of dollars.

In Maine, CITGO will provide 8 million gallons of heating oil at 40 percent discount to low -income families. This aid is also assisting homeless shelters and four Native American Tribes.

In Rhode Island, CITGO will provide 3.3 million gallons of discounted home heating oil to low-income families, homeless shelters and community clinics.

In Pennsylvania, CITGO is providing 5 million gallons of heating oil at 40 percent discount that will benefit as many as 25,000 low-income families in the Philadelphia region.

In Vermont, CITGO is providing 2.4 million gallons of Venezuelan oil to low-income Vermonters at a 40 percent discount, with an additional 108,000 gallons going to homeless shelters for free.

In Delaware, CITGO will distribute 1 million gallons of heating oil to low-income residents at a 40 percent discount; this will benefit about 5,000 low-income households in Delaware. Twenty homeless shelters will receive 150,000 gallons of free heating fuel.

In Connecticut, CITGO is going to assist in providing 4,800,000 million gallons of discounted heating oil to low-income consumers and 54,000 thousand gallons of no-cost heating oil to homeless shelters.

http://www.citgo.com/CommunityInvolv...HeatingOil.jsp

hey that sounds familiar.... o nooeeesss! im just thinking objectively here that bush did the exact same thing! fucking sheep :1orglaugh

It's not about the US as a country - it's about the current admin ie Bush :)

Chavez is running the only democratic country out of all top oil producing nations and was elected on the basis of swinging the profit benefits of oil around - not to see nice share values in boardrooms, but to benefit the poor in Venezuela (and where the country needs to address poverty) - that can gain popularity - not just with the poor, but also the wealthy.

Never checked for the current price, but gas is selling around 12 cents/gallon in Venezuela and Chavez "appears" to have no problem selling oil to whoever needs it (tho the pressure is on in that oil demand far outstrips supply capability eg China alone is likely to want a sixfold increase in supply within around 10 years) - despite that, if a nation is in "need" and wants oil - he will supply at a beneficial price.

There is one hell of a lot of propaganda bullshit about Chavez - and it's obvious where this is coming from. At the same time - only my :2 cents: - I don't trust Chavez, but in the same way there is no reason to trust ie Bush, or any leader of a nation. I don't know these people - not many people do know them to be in a position to give qualified judgement. They are all politicians, tho some have more of a need to spew bullshit to keep poll ratings up than others.

This man has colhones

BTW df - you see the propaganda bullshit that came out over CITGO not supplying 1800 of its 13000'ish gas stations in the US? (There were logistical commercial reasons for this)

"Chavez is cutting off our oil!" Wahhh :1orglaugh

Hmmm I failed to see were in my comments I said I supported Bush.
For the record (and you can see my prevous post on this thread) I think Bush is another crazy and dangerous guy.
I am only talking about Chavez, since there are so many "armchair leftists" here that seem to love him...
I wonder why, if Chavez is such a revolutionary , he keeps selling most of our oil to the US..hmm.

By the way, your canned reply about me being close to the "right wing powerful leaders that lost privileges" couldn´t be farther from the truth.Get a different argument.I know many,many poor people that want to see this bastard out of the presidency.

Again,where the hell did I mention Bush?
Jeez,the "Che lovin,mc donalds eating" lefties here really need to learn how to read.

I fail to see in my quote and answer where I say that YOU support Bush ...

I just said a generality: all what you said about Chavez applies to Bush ...

Now, looks like that cannot be said without getting your thong all bunched up ....

Well, you are gonna have to come up with a better reason to support Chavez other than "Bush does it too".
That makes Chavez the same as Bush. Which is not that far from the truth.
Both are egotistical maniacs whose aim is to amass as much power as they can.

:disgust good heavens...

Not really, because I do not support Chavez ... I am not Venezuelian, I do not vote in Venezuela ... I visited, as a tourist, a few times ...

But not supporting him doesn't make him the EVIL ( fuck, these terms make me laugh ) that Lazonby and his alter-ego dvd316 try to get to stick to him ...
For those guys, anybody that doesn't suck Bush's cock is a terrorist, dictator and should be killed ...

To tell you the truth, I do think that Chavez is maybe going a bit over the top, and it could amplify with time ....

CSPAN has the whole 26 minute video up:
rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/ter/ter092006_chavez.rm?mode=compact
(paste that addy in Real Player or your RealMedia compatable player)
Check out the new link... on this longer version it is very interesting to watch the reactions of the bulk of that room, especially the extended applause at the end.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

OK.. There's a typo there - I'll leave you to guess :winkwink:

Thanks man - much appreciated!

hehe :winkwink:

Who are those Mexican guys you talk of?

friggin chavez. He does all this stuff to make sure his citizens can get across our border and live here tax free while sending money back to mexico, and he calls Bush the devil?

Bush is an asshole, sure, but he isn't much better.

One of my uncles married a hot babe from Venezuela :)