video rendering question?

[CS-Jay]

I tried to search this, but GFY no likey me searching. My question is what are some of the recommended rendering settings for member's videos? Should I use vegas to render or should I use Cleaner? And what are some of the key points I need to pay attention to when looking for best quality vs file size?

thanks all!

Jay

[CheeseFrog]

I usually do my HD vids in 640x360 @ 1-2Mb/sec, depending on how the lighting was during recording. Decent lighting you can get away with 1Mb/sec, but darker footage requires more data to keep it from looking TOO grainy. Not sure if that's the technical explaination but that's what I've experienced so far. Granted I'm still n00bish at this stuff.

[Barefootsies]

Cleaner XL is possible.

Also you need to pick a format... avi, wmv, dvix, xvid, etc. Remember... each has it's own set of issues. A lot of people will tell you mwv for the ease of use, and lazy surfers. But your video quality will take a hit. Also keep in mind bitrates.


Good luck.

[CS-Jay]

Originally Posted by CheeseFrog

I usually do my HD vids in 640x360 @ 1-2Mb/sec, depending on how the lighting was during recording. Decent lighting you can get away with 1Mb/sec, but darker footage requires more data to keep it from looking TOO grainy. Not sure if that's the technical explaination but that's what I've experienced so far. Granted I'm still n00bish at this stuff.

no, that is some good info, especially about the darking videos.

I'm rocking a 640x480 and it's about 10megs for a minute clip. that has to be way too big, I'd say.

[BitAudioVideo]

if you want to keep the file size down and a nice quality you want to do a 2 pass encode. it would help if you could be more specific about....

source format (dvd, minidv, hd, etc)
output format (avi, wmv, mpg, etc)

[CheeseFrog]

Originally Posted by rich219inc

if you want to keep the file size down and a nice quality you want to do a 2 pass encode. it would help if you could be more specific about....

source format (dvd, minidv, hd, etc)
output format (avi, wmv, mpg, etc)

Oh wow, I didn't know that... Gonna try it right now. I'm capturing from MiniDV to uncompressed AVI and rendering to WMV.

[CS-Jay]

Originally Posted by rich219inc

if you want to keep the file size down and a nice quality you want to do a 2 pass encode. it would help if you could be more specific about....

source format (dvd, minidv, hd, etc)
output format (avi, wmv, mpg, etc)

I'm doing the same as CF, taking it from miniDV into avi from veagas' capture video then trying to get it into wmv.

[CS-Jay]

hump de bump

[Anna_O]

Originally Posted by CS-Jay

no, that is some good info, especially about the darking videos.

I'm rocking a 640x480 and it's about 10megs for a minute clip. that has to be way too big, I'd say.

Here's a bump for ya. And 10megs for one minute is not too large at all, give your member two versions instead. One high rez and one smaller in less quality for the dial-up users.

[BitAudioVideo]

couple of points to mention when going from minidv to whatever...

ive seen a lot of people skip deinterlacing, generally when i mention it i hear "huh? whats deinterlacing?"

http://bitav.net/interlaced.jpg

interlaced video looks like the sample jpg. when you play back on tv/cam/dvd the hardware deinterlaces the video, if you encode the wmv from interlaced video it will look shitty.

i dont use vegas so i wont be any help there. my personal preference is to capture from minidv to uncompressed avi then deinterlace and resize in virtualdub.

your source is probably 720x480, when you add the deinterlace filter you will want to resize to 640x480 and i like the bilinear over bicubic filter when shrinking... bicubic if increasing the rez.

you can export the resized/deinterlaced video to uncompressed avi (will be bigger than the avi you have captured) the captured avi you have is most likely a DV-AVI and not uncompressed avi. you could also export to unrestrained divx/xvid or huffy.

edit: you can also add your watermark in virtualdub during this step

[CS-Jay]

now this is some great info! thanks

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Anna_O

Here's a bump for ya. And 10megs for one minute is not too large at all, give your member two versions instead. One high rez and one smaller in less quality for the dial-up users.

Correct sire.

[Toni]

good thread!

[BitAudioVideo]

Originally Posted by CS-Jay

now this is some great info! thanks

your welcome, i of course prefer paid jobs over free advise but ill make an exception for you because up in till last year when the hurricanes wiped out my place i was a fellow wpb resident (was there for 20 years)

if you have further questions let me know