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  • Tuga
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2002
    • 7678
    #1

    I will never work without money upfront again

    Too many idiots like Martin around ( http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=655232 ) , this time I learned the lesson.

    I know what everyone will say, I should always ask for 50% upfront. For a $25 template? Cmon, I would like to trust people sometimes... not anymore. Been fucked too many times, now it's money upfront or go fuck yourself.

    There, I said it.

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    • TurboAngel
      H.B.I.C.
      • Jun 2003
      • 30122
      #2
      That's a shame he didn't give you the $25?

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        • KingK7
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 6372
          #3
          A little hasty, no?

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            • brand0n
              been very busy
              • Nov 2002
              • 26983
              #4
              i dont see what the issue is.. looks pretty clean 2 me..
              want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                • Sparks
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 2466
                  #5
                  That sucks... sad when you can't trust people to pay.

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                    • donross
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1295
                      #6
                      fuck the scammers!
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                        • badcore
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                          • Apr 2006
                          • 151
                          #7
                          fucking scammers must die!!!
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                            • Tuga
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 7678
                              #8
                              Originally posted by TurboAngel
                              That's a shame he didn't give you the $25?

                              No $25 , no chance to fix it (it was just the 1st sample, not finished work) and no answer at all. He just decided not to buy it.

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                                • KingK7
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 6372
                                  #9
                                  Seriously... You should give things a LITTLE more time before calling out people as scammers over $25

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                                    • After Shock Media
                                      It's coming look busy
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 35299
                                      #10
                                      First time clients, money upfront or at least a deposit is always expected. For established clients I am rarely concerned with it. I ussually do the work and they pay me afterwards. Though a few pay first, then take forever to get me the details. I actually have to remind a few to get on the ball since I already have their money.

                                      Screwing someone for 25.00 though is fucking low. Even if they hated the result and you followed specs given. I would expect them to at very least offer partial payment for taking up your time.

                                      People often expect designers to be psychic. You can ask them what color schemes they may like, any feel or mood they desire, sample sites that they like the for inspiration, and what not and the client often responds with a I dunno answer. Kind of annoying actually.

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                                        • Tuga
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 7678
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by KingK7
                                          Seriously... You should give things a LITTLE more time before calling out people as scammers over $25
                                          Last time something like this happened it was a company and I waited for 2 weeks, always talking about it on ICQ, never getting paid. Then I came to GFY and I got my money in 1 hour. So I'm done with waiting, if I see bullshit I dont wait. Read the log, do you really think he was planning to pay me?

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                                            • Tuga
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 7678
                                              #12
                                              There, before he wasnt paying because he didnt like it, now he is not paying because I posted his site on GFY.

                                              Bottom line: the scammer is not paying, I wasted a couple of hours.

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                                                • J. Falcon
                                                  www.AdultCopywriters.com
                                                  • May 2006
                                                  • 31645
                                                  #13
                                                  Not all people are like that.
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                                                    • Boobs
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                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 7875
                                                      #14
                                                      you gotta do what you gotta do

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                                                        • Martin
                                                          "Assassins"
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 17277
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by KingK7
                                                          Seriously... You should give things a LITTLE more time before calling out people as scammers over $25
                                                          Yeah really. Martin the big scammer here. Watch out for me folks. I'll take that 20 and run on ya.

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                                                            • Tuga
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 7678
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Martin
                                                              Yeah really. Martin the big scammer here. Watch out for me folks. I'll take that 20 and run on ya.
                                                              Sounds so stupid... yet, you did just that.

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                                                                • tranza
                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 57559
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I don't move a finger before I'm paid.
                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                    • Ace_luffy
                                                                      www.creationcrew.com
                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 12163
                                                                      #18
                                                                      really shame if it's true


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                                                                        • Martin
                                                                          "Assassins"
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 17277
                                                                          #19
                                                                          .<--- that's the worlds smallest violin playing just for you...

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                                                                            • Tuga
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 7678
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Ace_luffy
                                                                              really shame if it's true
                                                                              Of course it's true, he admits he never looked at my samples, and since he didnt like the way it was going he backed out. And he finds it amusing.

                                                                              It's just $25 so it doesnt really matter, right?

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                                                                                • Tuga
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 7678
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                  .<--- that's the worlds smallest violin playing just for you...
                                                                                  Go ahead and make fun of a guy working for you and not getting paid. Karma is a bitch, you know?

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                                                                                    • Monstaman
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                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                      • 1021
                                                                                      #22
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                                                                                        • Solid Bob
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                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                          • 1213
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                          Yeah really. Martin the big scammer here. Watch out for me folks. I'll take that 20 and run on ya.
                                                                                          Nobody is falling for your bullshit misdirection in this thread or the other one. You said over there

                                                                                          "I think this dude is a little nutty. Look at the time line. He didnt even give me a chance to respond. He can take his shitty ass gallery and the $25 and blow both out his ass."

                                                                                          What do you expect him to say when you tell him to do work, he tells you $25, you say ok, he gives you work, and your comment is just "yeah man, im sorry but im going to have to pass. not what i was looking for" .

                                                                                          That makes you a steaming piece of shit. You can pull another excuse out of your ass now but again, nobody is buying it. I've paid for and tossed dozens of designs over the years. Not because the designer wouldn't fix them if I asked, I just don't like doing that. I still paid for the work that was agreed upon. This isn't some in the box product, the guy took his time out of the day and trusted you to keep your word.

                                                                                          PAY HIM FOR WASTING HIS TIME YOU DICKWEED

                                                                                          That is all.
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                                                                                            • BitAudioVideo
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                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                              • 1246
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                              I don't move a finger before I'm paid.
                                                                                              i'll do the work before im paid, but i aint gettin out of bed for $25 ;p
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                                                                                                • Martin
                                                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 17277
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Solid Bob
                                                                                                  Nobody is falling for your bullshit misdirection in this thread or the other one. You said over there

                                                                                                  "I think this dude is a little nutty. Look at the time line. He didnt even give me a chance to respond. He can take his shitty ass gallery and the $25 and blow both out his ass."

                                                                                                  What do you expect him to say when you tell him to do work, he tells you $25, you say ok, he gives you work, and your comment is just "yeah man, im sorry but im going to have to pass. not what i was looking for" .

                                                                                                  That makes you a steaming piece of shit. You can pull another excuse out of your ass now but again, nobody is buying it. I've paid for and tossed dozens of designs over the years. Not because the designer wouldn't fix them if I asked, I just don't like doing that. I still paid for the work that was agreed upon. This isn't some in the box product, the guy took his time out of the day and trusted you to keep your word.

                                                                                                  PAY HIM FOR WASTING HIS TIME YOU DICKWEED

                                                                                                  That is all.
                                                                                                  Dude fack him and fack you too.. You can buy whatever you want. The gallery he showed me was crap. It took him 4 hours to come up with this?
                                                                                                  http://www.sexonabanheira.com/sample.jpg

                                                                                                  He said he could do what I asked for. He didn't....

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                                                                                                    • Tuga
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                      • 7678
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                                      Dude fack him and fack you too.. You can buy whatever you want. The gallery he showed me was crap. It took him 4 hours to come up with this?
                                                                                                      http://www.sexonabanheira.com/sample.jpg

                                                                                                      He said he could do what I asked for. He didn't....
                                                                                                      Stop the bullshit!!!

                                                                                                      1. I said it took me 2 hours.

                                                                                                      2. I said it's not the finished template, just a sample so you could see where it was going and change it.

                                                                                                      This is all so simple, yet you fail to understand.

                                                                                                      Go Fuck Yourself!
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                                                                                                        • Solid Bob
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                                          • 1213
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                                          Dude fack him and fack you too.. You can buy whatever you want. The gallery he showed me was crap. It took him 4 hours to come up with this?
                                                                                                          http://www.sexonabanheira.com/sample.jpg

                                                                                                          He said he could do what I asked for. He didn't....
                                                                                                          You are the piece of shit in this transaction no matter what you tell yourself to feel better.
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                                                                                                            • free4porn
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                                                                              • 4654
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Gallery looks good
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                                                                                                                • Martin
                                                                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                  • 17277
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I dont care what you think there Bob..

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                                                                                                                    • Tuga
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                      • 7678
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by free4porn
                                                                                                                      Gallery looks good
                                                                                                                      Thanks, even tough it's not finished, and considering not everyone likes the same things, I still cant see the big difference between that and the one he showed me. But that's not the point here.

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                                                                                                                        • ssp
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                          • 7990
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          LOL all this drama for $25... You disappoint me both.

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                                                                                                                            • Solid Bob
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                              • 1213
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                                                              LOL all this drama for $25... You disappoint me both.
                                                                                                                              Who cares if he called him out over $1? Idiots like the buyer in this transaction should immediately be banned from doing any business here. It's pathetic.
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                                                                                                                                • Martin
                                                                                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 17277
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Wouldnt know a good gallery if it bit you in the ass.
                                                                                                                                  http://www.mr2creationz.com/mr2temp/martin/gal/

                                                                                                                                  Thats the gal I just paid $30 for.. He asked for $20 but I thought Id shoot him a few more dollars since it only took him Half an hour.

                                                                                                                                  Thanks Ray from http://www.mr2creationz.com/

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                                                                                                                                    • Tuga
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 7678
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                                                                      I dont care what you think there Bob..
                                                                                                                                      Sure, you dont care what anyone thinks, because everyone thinks the gallery is ok and you should pay me for the work even if you dont like it.

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                                                                                                                                        • pr0
                                                                                                                                          rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 23088
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          gallery looks like a piece of shit to me....& starting a thread over $25?

                                                                                                                                          do u live in el salvador?
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                                                                                                                                            • Tuga
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 7678
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                                                                              LOL all this drama for $25... You disappoint me both.
                                                                                                                                              It's not about $25 , it's about working for someone and getting bullshit instead of payment. It's frustrating, maybe you'll find out someday.

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                                                                                                                                                • pr0
                                                                                                                                                  rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 23088
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tuga
                                                                                                                                                  Sure, you dont care what anyone thinks, because everyone thinks the gallery is ok and you should pay me for the work even if you dont like it.
                                                                                                                                                  not everyone....i think it looks like shit
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                                                                                                                                                    • ssp
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 7990
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Solid Bob
                                                                                                                                                      Who cares if he called him out over $1? Idiots like the buyer in this transaction should immediately be banned from doing any business here. It's pathetic.
                                                                                                                                                      You mean there is something like good business practice in the adult industry? If so, where can I find it?

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                                                                                                                                                        • Tuga
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 7678
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by pr0
                                                                                                                                                          gallery looks like a piece of shit to me....& starting a thread over $25?

                                                                                                                                                          do u live in el salvador?
                                                                                                                                                          Starting a thread over making and agreement, working, and getting shit in return. Not the first time either.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Tuga
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 7678
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by pr0
                                                                                                                                                              not everyone....i think it looks like shit
                                                                                                                                                              That's fine, it's not my favorite gallery either and it wasnt finished.

                                                                                                                                                              What about the one I had for reference: http://tugjobs.bangbros1.com/gal/50093/p/direct/

                                                                                                                                                              Is this so much hotter and far from what I did?

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                                                                                                                                                                • Solid Bob
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1213
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ssp
                                                                                                                                                                  You mean there is something like good business practice in the adult industry? If so, where can I find it?
                                                                                                                                                                  Can definately tell you where not to find it.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Tuga
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 7678
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                                                                                                      Wouldnt know a good gallery if it bit you in the ass.
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.mr2creationz.com/mr2temp/martin/gal/

                                                                                                                                                                      Thats the gal I just paid $30 for.. He asked for $20 but I thought Id shoot him a few more dollars since it only took him Half an hour.

                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks Ray from http://www.mr2creationz.com/
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm glad Ray got his money, you're still a thieve no matter what you think of my semi-finished gallery.

                                                                                                                                                                      Go Fuck Yourself!
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                                                                                                                                                                        • pr0
                                                                                                                                                                          rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 23088
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Tuga
                                                                                                                                                                          That's fine, it's not my favorite gallery either and it wasnt finished.

                                                                                                                                                                          What about the one I had for reference: http://tugjobs.bangbros1.com/gal/50093/p/direct/

                                                                                                                                                                          Is this so much hotter and far from what I did?
                                                                                                                                                                          about 6,000x hotter....

                                                                                                                                                                          the font pops, the graphics are blended properly into the design

                                                                                                                                                                          the color scheme is proper

                                                                                                                                                                          where are we going with this?
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                                                                                                                                                                            • woj
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 47882
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              wow, drama over $25?

                                                                                                                                                                              just pay the guy $25, and lets move on, fuck dude...
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                                                                                                                                                                                • pr0
                                                                                                                                                                                  rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 23088
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                                                                  wow, drama over $25?

                                                                                                                                                                                  just pay the guy $25, and lets move on, fuck dude...
                                                                                                                                                                                  dude honestly, if someone handed that piece of shit into me.....i wouldn't pay them $25 either....not even to shut them the fuck up
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Martin
                                                                                                                                                                                      "Assassins"
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 17277
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                                                                      wow, drama over $25?

                                                                                                                                                                                      just pay the guy $25, and lets move on, fuck dude...
                                                                                                                                                                                      Dude I was thinking about offering the guy $15 for it.. Before I could even respond to his Icq message he was here calling me a scammer and a Idiot.. So fuck him and anybody that looks like this pork chop.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Tuga
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 7678
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by pr0
                                                                                                                                                                                          about 6,000x hotter....

                                                                                                                                                                                          the font pops, the graphics are blended properly into the design

                                                                                                                                                                                          the color scheme is proper

                                                                                                                                                                                          where are we going with this?
                                                                                                                                                                                          Just asking, I was curious since a few other guys said it was ok.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyway, if you dont like a design and tell the designer to fuck off instead of work on it... you're another reason I'll never work without getting the money first again.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Go Fuck Yourself!
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Tuga
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 7678
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                                                                                                                              Dude I was thinking about offering the guy $15 for it.. Before I could even respond to his Icq message he was here calling me a scammer and a Idiot.. So fuck him and anybody that looks like this pork chop.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Right... you were thinking about it, but not typing about it. That's great.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Tuga
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 7678
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Getting out of this thread now, I'm not wasting more time and energy on this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've been screwed for $500 before and I can tell you it feels just the same as $25.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Martin, I hope you buy a nice meal with that money and choke on it. Bye.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Go Fuck Yourself!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Martin
                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Assassins"
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 17277
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Tuga
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Getting out of this thread now, I'm not wasting more time and energy on this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I've been screwed for $500 before and I can tell you it feels just the same as $25.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Martin, I hope you buy a nice meal with that money and choke on it. Bye.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Na I used it already to buy a proper gallery template.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Take care.

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