It never ceases to amaze me that no matter how well qualified my posts are, the majority of the people don't seem to grasp the simplicity in them.

I asked for programs who are %100 non-exclusive, not %90 non-exclusive, and I even gave examples of programs who are on the level of success that I am asking about.

MeatCash can't hold a candle to the programs I mentioned nor are they %100 non-exclusive. Why are we still discussing them?

if it's not the case already, in the not too distant future exclusive content and non-exclusive content will be the difference between the programs that strive and the programs that thrive :2 cents:

You can't sell porn, it has to sell itself.

Platinum bucks I think is mostly non exclusive stuff but I could be wrong, but of course they have adultrental.com their vod which is of course non exclusive. Lion Dollars was non exclusive till their new model phoenix. Sure there are others.

Take that back about PB they have a bunch of exclusives after looking.

Because occasionally, such as in this case, he is dead nuts on.

Which is the reason we have two stores, one for the more discerning client and the other for the guys buying bulk on price.

In both stores we will make more than $300 on a set, add the video and you are running at a lot more than what exclusive pays a shooter.

If all these sites doing so well with exclusive why don't they pay the shooters more? Excluding the guys with the real sense to sell their own content on a paysite.

Oh I forgot about our paysite, yet another level of earning from the same content.

Exclusive = 1 off sale. :(

Non Exclusive = Content store sales, mobile phone sales, magazines sales, DVD sales, Paysite sales, I still own the rights. :thumbsup

So put me on ignore too, Dead Nuts... :winkwink:

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my post doesn't apply to network sites like AEN's & VOD's, imo those sites provide good value for the dollar for most novice surfers.

again. took you off ignore for this thread.. ill be puttin you right back on as soon as i finish this post

i dont give a fuck about anyone who thinks anything about my opinion on anything. simple enuff?

im just sick of your useless bullshit that amounts to notta.

and all your stupid fuckin pics..

you shoot exclusive content ($$$)

im happy for you..

i produce traffic ($$$$$$$$)

see the ratio?

and yet im not a dolt who feels the need to drop a stupid fuckin picture in every thread to get my point across..

and ive gotten over myself and back overmyself a long time ago.

but thanks.. ill be sure to keep you in mind as i readd you yet again to ignore.

honestly.. this is the 1st post ive seen you make that had ANY relevance what so ever.

and all that was


"I was celebrating exclusive content, which I happen to produce ($$$)."

bravo!

now.. shouldnt you drop a stupid fuckin pic and get it outta the way as i put you back on ignore?

Maybe SunnyDollars?

Adult bouncer

as successful as bbros.. none

successful enough (and growing)... wildcash :thumbsup

That explains why you have to post so much and sell your sig to others for :2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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havent bothered yet..

so.. let me get this correct..

anyone who sells a sig on here is broke..
thats the jest of it correct?

this couldnt have happend in a better thread

and while im here..

i post alot? heh.

you see my join date right.. according to the board im doing... lets see here..

(16.24 posts per day)

you are doing..

(9.82 posts per day)
yep.. those 6.42 post a day really push a huge diff between you and i

im done with you now.

i wouldnt buy your content if you held the last scrap of 2257 on the planet.
back to iggy you go now.. no reason to even bother with you any more.

go back to what you do best..
post a useless pic..

can the 2257 comment..
18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement

Date of AsianDivaGirls.com Original Publication On The Internet: 02/14/2003

Sorry, I don't have any pictures of you...

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im sure you posted a witty comment or somethin but alas..
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
This message is hidden because AsianDivaGirlsWebDude is on your ignore list.

ill never get to read it..

just to clarify.. yes.. my what ever is a whore.. im dead broke.. and what ever he just posted about me is 100 % true.

Can't tell if I like you more as a troll or an ostrich.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

To be honest, I harbor no ill feelings towards the majority of people on forums such as GFY, including you, AaronM, and others, despite what you zing at me.

I'm not such a bad person once you get to know me.

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Sorry Nylz, I got to agree with Aaron in this one.

Why has no-one mentioned Pimproll/Adult Elite yet? Probably one of the most successful programmes in this business and I know for sure they have a lot of DVD content.

We have just started with www.ballerbucks.com but all our sites are 100% exclusive... 9 to start... every 15 days new site till we get 30 how much we have ready.but i think it's the key to have exclusive :thumbsup

This is actually a good marketing tactic for Aaron :thumbsup

Aaron, even as simple as you put it, it is still over everyones head. I'm sure they are scratching their noggins thinking WTF is this clown talking about..LOL

PimpRoll/AdultElite etc are HUGE, much larger than most think

Yep, they are WAY up there for sure.. but they also have exclusive stuff..

We started producing Exclusive content for Twistys in January 2004 with Cirrus from Reyko. So back in 2004 we were 100% non exclusive.

We currently update 4 photosets a day and 1 video a day every single day of the year and 85% of that is exclusively produced material.

I agree 100%.
The main reason we started producing exclusive content was the decline in licensed content particularly in the glamour market.

Here are a few of the companies that we used to buy from...
Matrix Content used to produce 28 new sets a week. That was enough for me to run just about all my updates. Then they dropped to 2 to 5 usable sets per week (ie not amateur/white bg sets).

Cloud9 was around and they got out of the market and into the paysite market.

Jokersx Scotty went on to become Mr Actiongirls.

Reyko stopped producing.

and on and on. Glamour content is very expensive to produce and the Glamour niche is so hard to penetrate and be successful in that there is not a huge demand for licensed Glamour content.

What we did was simple. Start Twistys for around $20,000. A very minimal investment. We implemented a solid member's area plan that included Daily updates. We made sure we treated our members the way we'd want to be treated. When the Licensed content market's future looked bad we decided to start producing our own content. Our updates never suffered. Our content only got better and better. Truth is it would have been imposible for us to start Twistys with 85% exclusive Glamour content. The cost to run a site that updates as much as we do with as much exclusive Glamour content as we have is insane.

An interesting note to end this post. Before we ran produced exclusive content we were running at insanely high profit margins. We were paying $50 a set that was photoshopped and ready to use. Now we pay $1000s for a shoot and we have to have the staff to photoshop it and video editors to prepare the videos. Our productions costs are insane. However it's still been extremely worthwhile. Exclusive content has really helped the Twistys brand excel to a level i never expected it to become. I mean in all honesty when Beth and I started Twistys it was all Matrix and Jokersx content. I didn't exactly see us competing with Playboy and Penthouse. Yet here we are 5 years later competing with two of the biggest names in the industry. Hard work really does payoff. :thumbsup

:thumbsup

Hey Dean you need to post those new Hammer pics you emailed me. They are absolutely stunning. I think they are ready for a new thread :)

Hey Shap - I posted them last night :thumbsup

Twistys started with not eclusive content. Quickbucks is still banking with it.

And it is still possible to make very good money without having exclusive content.

Why you calling me a clown? :winkwink:

Thanks for the input, Alex. :)

Tell me a site or sponsor that makes more than "Beer money" who started in the last two years. Any sponsor, exclusive or not. Quoting programs who got in when it was easier is not the way.

While you're at it tell us 100% custom shooters who make more than beer money.

Great post. :thumbsup

I'm sure the point of this post is for Aaron to get more work and not educate people into buying/using more exclusive content. If it is maybe he would like to tell us who he is aiming at, the new sites or the Adult.com's of the world. New ones might be buying from a new supplier doubt if the big guys are.

Few of the sites he lists STARTED shooting exclusive 100%, Lightspeed come to mind. In fact some of the early sites were grabbing it from where ever they could, even out of sources not 100% legal.

Starting a paysite today with exclusive content needs a very big budget, which few will have. Following my model, which is similar to yours will cost $30,000 in content alone. Invest that into exclusive and you will not have enough to keep a few affiliates happy. Starting a site with $30,000 of exclusive content will be very very tough. And the big sponsors know this. They are trying to pull up the drawer bridge and shut the door.

You are right the good content providers have got out, can someone explain why they got out if non exclusive is saturated? Yes some saw it was easier to run a paysite than a content store, easier and more profitable, but they got out.

Twistys model was the best model for all new site owners. Build your content, traffic and membership base with good content. Update with as much as you can, then move to the exclusive market.

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Another funny thread :)

I guess when a program gets to a certain size there's always the cash to throw at an exlclusive project to test the theory that exclusive content does better. So if a program gets to a certain size it's almost inevitable they'll commission some exclusive content and thus stop being 100% non-exclusive. Doesn't mean exclusive content got them where they are.

This doesnt look as funny thread.Is bussines thread

It's funny when people start throwing programs left and right and speculating of their size based on god knows what and comparing programs that can't be compared in any sense. (not even sure what's that gota do with the initial question frankly)

Marketing sells, not exclusive content. Retention, that's another thing.

Exclusive content is over rated..